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Post by Ava on Jun 19, 2023 15:55:07 GMT
Ava sounds like an intense transformative year for you ahead. Lots of serious thinking and reflecting, too? Ugh, well that's how the energy feels today, anyway. (Day of my draco SR) Recording the cafeastrology reading for today, for reference, if it matters:
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Post by lumina on Jun 19, 2023 19:30:13 GMT
That is downright hilarious to me, considering I had to cancel the play of the theatrecourse for tomorrow on really short notice, due to several people getting sick and also because the pupils di dnot feel prepared well enough (well it is not a cancellation, it is a postponing, but oh well). Well lots of organizing to do for me because of that, too, so that is right. Also had my final day at the other school. Hmm, seems at least to me there was a lot of "endings" involved today. Interesting. Well as my mom said, in respect to cancelling or postponing the theatre play: Who knows what it`s good for? LOl Well I do intend to get it on stage eventually but who knows if all the pupils will be on board by then still , I could do it as a voluntary theatre group though. We will see. But it has been quite a hassle today of course, and also having to think of a way to get the info out there.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Aug 17, 2023 15:58:42 GMT
This year, my draconic solar return was also my draconic lunar return (almost). It had: 11° Taurus NN 11° Taurus Moon 15° Taurus Uranus (My draconic moon: 10° Taurus). All in the 4th house, which is very fitting for this year (new 'home' in a place whose sun is on my natal NN/Ura/Nep and draconic sun).
Further, 21° Aqua Asc 22° Aqua Saturn on my natal Asc/Moon at 22°/23° Aqua.
The MC/IC axis is widely conjunct my natal MC/IC axis, with Mars on the IC.
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Post by Ava on Aug 17, 2023 21:04:57 GMT
WOW 12YearsABlob! That's amazing. Extraordinary return for a very different kind of year!
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Post by Ava on Aug 17, 2023 21:32:46 GMT
Even though this was a mean node chart, I like it. Transiting draconic sun hitting draco Venus and Mars-Lilith was eventful. Tr sun on Cancer ASC here was a new start, because we got good news regarding my son's health that day. (Potentially serious issue turned out to be a non-issue.) I'm still just trying to figure out if these charts work.
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Post by lumina on Aug 18, 2023 21:28:59 GMT
12YearsABlob that is really quite an alignment, lunar ERturn and Solar Return coming together. Ava I have no clue how these work, but as a working hypothesis I treat those Return charts as "crystallized transits", likears being frozen for a longer timeframe than usually. having a longer shelflife or something like that. Well Iguess the most attentiongrabbing thing about my Draconic Solar Return this year is, the exact Sun-Uranus-conjunction. Though I also noticed Tr Draco Jupiter on my natal Draco Mars-ASC, and Tr Draco Pluto on my natal tropical Sun-Pluto and I find it curious that the Draco SR ASC is closish to my tropical SR ASC (6-10 Virgo). Actually my name in my own draco chart is on 6 Virgo, so basiclaly the Draco SR ASC falls right onto my Draco name, so that seems like a lot of identiy stuff. And I have some stuff there anyway currently, along with my progressed tropical Venus on 7 Pisces. But still Sun-Uranus-conjuunction on 15 ARies, that seems like possibly the most glaring feature of the Draco Solar REturn.
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Post by Ava on Aug 19, 2023 12:13:54 GMT
But still Sun-Uranus-conjuunction on 15 ARies, that seems like possibly the most glaring feature of the Draco Solar REturn. Tr draco Jupiter was just there in early August. Anything happen? Also, do you see any sun-Uranus theme in your life or moods since your draco SR?
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Post by lumina on Aug 19, 2023 13:20:41 GMT
AvaCuriously I stumbled across this Sound, Had to do it (sadky its very shaky) but I think her Lines are very Sun-Uranus www.instagram.com/reel/CwIEPWuq839/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Yeah I think I feel that vibe, I feel quite Independent and If course Bit erratic at Times. Hey in July I was pushed to try Out a VR flying Simulator, If that IS Not Sun- Uranus I don't know what would be! Mr Aqua seems to have settled at the Edge of my Life somehow AS Well. Actually we crossed paths around the time my SR toik place, maybe a bit earlier.
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Post by Ava on Aug 19, 2023 18:42:31 GMT
That's hilarious. Nice clip!
Isn't there a new Mr. Aqua? I forget old Mr. Aqua's name...the Italian. Luigi? Giovanni? Drawing a blank.
Edit: Nevermind, I remembered!
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Post by lumina on Aug 20, 2023 10:10:07 GMT
Thank you Ava . Antonio. Anyway the Italian`s Aqua Sun is actually exactly conjunct my Draco Uranus, and the new Aqua guy`s Mercury-Mars-conjunction falls onto my Draco Uranus. Just thought that was sort of matching the Sun-Uranus-theme. Actually the Italian is showing up on my instagram feed increasingly since a couple of weeks again, after he was totally disappeared from there, it is just the alghorythm of course, but I thought that was hilarious, how he started coming up there when my Draco SR started with that Sun-Uranus theme. Apart from that there has been quite some upheaval and drama in "social / friends-groups", as you probably remember, so that is sort of fitting as well I guess. I sometimes tend to bring about that in social groups for some reason, like it is enough that I am present to shake them up or make certain rifts just visible i guess? It is not that I really do something to bring disharmony about but if there has something been swept under the carpet for too long, it seems to come up when I am around - and I do not even intend to make that happen, it just happens. Usually just because I am honest about certain things that I dislike, and people then feel triggered in a way, often even long after I already moved on from it. Like I bring it up, process it, decide how to proceed and then just move on from that, while others seem to stew in that for much longer? I don´t know maybe it is a wrong assessment but it`s not the first time that happened.
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Post by Ava on Aug 20, 2023 12:49:46 GMT
That is very neat lumina. The timing there. You've been so busy with other things you haven't even told me about Antonio. What about Mr Cap? Is he Uranian? "I sometimes tend to bring about that in social groups for some reason, like it is enough that I am present to shake them up or make certain rifts just visible i guess?" Trying not to spit out my Smart Water, laughing. This is RELATABLE. Though we do it different ways...maybe it comes down to the Sag bluntness. But my husband has a natal, exact sun-Uranus conjunction and he excels in this area. There are two ways to look at something that gets "blown up" by Uranus or whatever else...one can say, people are overreacting. Or one could say, every action is a microcosmic reflection of a larger whole. Sun-Uranus might see the whole faster, because the sun sees, and Uranus is quick. So, maybe there's a little bit of snap judgment, but usually that proves itself accurate over the long term. If not, sun-Uranus WILL correct and pivot and deal with the new reality head-on, too. At least that's what I've observed as a bystander. Quick maneuvering. Well it reminds me of some drama you had with that person who had to inform everyone that even her slip was wet. It was bad, you said that, then it was good, and you said that. I think you are consistently honest, to the extent you even want to get involved, but maybe draco sun-Uranus puts you in situations like this...which are out of the ordinary. Just some thoughts...
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Post by lumina on Aug 20, 2023 21:32:35 GMT
Ava thank you for your thoughts on Sun-Uranus. Very astute! At least they make a lot of sense to me, yes totally can see this. And yeah, almost like stumbling into those situations just by being me. lol Ah Mr Cap, well not VERY Uranian, however it struck me that his Venus is in Aquarius; actually he has an exact conjunction of Venus and Priapus on 27 Aquarius (on the same degree as my natal Lilith. lol and sextile my Sun-MErcury, well that is nice). His Venus also squares his Uranus on 24 Scorpio, so I gues she is more Uranian than I initially thought. lol Sun on 23 Cap sextile Uranus too. There is something strange I just see in the midpoints too. his Sun/Uranus 24°02 Sag Mr New Aqua`s Venus/Uranus 23°37 Sag P`s Venus/Uranus 24°40 Sag (and actually Mr Cancer`s Sun/Uranus is on 24°14 Virgo, squaring it). Just thought that was a bit curious, it`s all suspiciously close to my Sun-Mercury-conjunction on 25 Sag. I seem to like guys with Venus-Uranus-aspects, or at least those guys I like seem to have a Venus-Uranus-aspect natally, though usually it is a soft one, like a sextile, most of the time. The square is new. But so yeah I guess while Mr Cap is not Uranian per se possibly, he might be in terms of his relationships, the way he relates to others and his creative endeavours. I do wonder how it feels to a man having Venus exactly conjunct Priapus though, and being made even crazier by squaring Uranus. lol I think however Lancelot has that one too, Venus conjunct Priapus (but for him it`s in Pisces).
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Post by Ava on Aug 21, 2023 0:46:29 GMT
luminaThat's pretty fun. Mr Cap is, legitimately and without bias, the cutest of the aforementioned, and I'm happy I guessed correctly that he's got a sun-Uranus vibe. I think it's funny you check for Priapus. And you still expect me to talk about it with a straight face. Well that's "nice" his Priapus is doing a lot with your chart, as you say. Really nice.
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Post by lumina on Aug 22, 2023 20:38:59 GMT
Ava Yes, he certainly is cute, and nice. I think one of these days we perhaps should meet in the real world. 😂 just hit me that just like with the Virgo we`ve never even reall met. I mean I see him on stage of course, and now and then there is a little back and forth on instagram (well just very appropriately so, but I kind of like that he seems to respond so often to me. Well maybe because i was asking a question, but he just intrigued me today, he said that at a certain song - which as it hit me was just performed by Mr Sag on stage that weekend, as he was playing that character, hmm, and Mr Cap was posting a reel with him doing that exact song himself some time ago, those coincidences are just.... interesting. Anyway he mentioned having been SO tensed and focused and wanting to do it so perfectly, that afterwards he his diaphragm was "clenching", I did not even know this is possible or what that is! but when I wrote that, he was assuring me that it is "not as bad as it sounds", which kind of is not an answer to my question, but maybe he thought of it as rhetorical. lol) Anyway one of these days I should maybe say Hello in person instead of just doing it virutally. lol (Actually I avoided meeting him last year, when I was at a premiere, and he would have been there too, and well, even though I had intended on sticking around, I then hurried on home instead. Which is weird actually, but well I am like that sometimes as you know). Will probably erase that part in a bit. lol Speaking about PRiapus, it`s not hard looking out for him, he kind of is sticking out. 😉 (If you can play with innuendo, so can I! lol) Actually funny enough I have a partile Mercury-Priapus-opposition in my progressed chart, it peaked in the beginning of august (Mercury on 22 Aqua, Priapus on 22 Leo, which is kind of interedsting, you know with my Draco Uranus on 21 Aqua, natally Uranus squares Priapus actually within one degree, from 1 Scorpio to 0 Leo) my pr Mercury is retro, so it will meet up with Draco Uranus in a very near future. Well Mercury-Priapus, it peaked pretty much just at the end of that intense communication period while Mr Sag was recovering from surgery, so I thought that was interesting. Of course it also happened to be exact when I returned to school and let some choice words fall about organizations, schedule etc. Usually I do not complain as loudly and openly but this year I did. lol BTW at the moment my Pluto-Juno-opposition in the progression is peaking (or actually will peak at 31st august or so) - from 9 Libra - 9 Aries. There is some other stuff in the progressions of mine, like I realized that my pr NN had become direct for a bit, (from 31st december 2021 and this will end this november I think, I would need to check - but it covers an interesting timeframe for sure). Anyway not wanting to ramble on too much. But yeah always checking Lilith and Priapus, they are actually comparable to the nodal axis, not in interpretation of course, however, both are axises (approximately at least), both are really calculated points taking the interrelationship between Sun and Moon and Earth into view, obviously from a different perspective, but the "players" are pretty much the same, both are soli-lunar symbols. the Apogee-PErigee axis just as much as the nodal axis, though the nodal axis is obviously more evident in manifestation of course.
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Post by Ava on Aug 23, 2023 15:36:54 GMT
lumina There's a Virgo? I remember back when you only had ONE crush and would carefully refuse to take any more on board. (Just my impression ) Progressed Mars conjunct natal Venus changed something? Or maybe these do not qualify as any real interest. That is pretty interesting about pr Mercury-Priapus/ draco Uranus. Strong feelings finding expression. Natally I have Priapus Rx conjunct Juno @ 19 Virgo. Snickering aside, I am fond of the degree, though it opposes my moon, and there is difficulty accordingly. Because my natal Lilith is in Aries, not even aspecting Priapus, I tend to not think of Lilith and Priapus as a set. I don't know how to integrate my own set and it's rare to find them in aspect in a natal chart isn't it? How often do they even get within orb of an opposition? My draco SR, using true node and a rectified birth time, features an exact sun-Juno conjunction this year. Furthermore this chart's ASC @ 29 Virgo is exactly trine my natal draco Juno-Priapus @ 29 Cap. Lilith at 19 Cancer in a stellium with Venus @ 10 Cancer and Mars @ 15 Cancer on the Venus/Lilith mp. I mentioned a recent draco transit there and how it seems to match the draco SR. However, 8H Mercury is chart ruler, and it's @ 12 Taurus, so I guess transits there ought to mean something. I believe 12 Taurus does not receive any major draco transits for the duration of the SR except a sextile from Pisces Neptune, a trine from Cap Pluto, and a conjunction from Jupiter just before the beginning of the next draco SR. There is also a wide applying conjunction from Uranus. Draco SR 2024 features sun tightly conjunct Venus in Taurus (!!!) LUCKY ME. Well it's a large stellium in Taurus. I'm not a stellium typa gal so I wonder how that energy might feel. 9 Taurus Mercury, 8H...chart ruler again 10 Taurus Uranus, 8H 17 Taurus Jupiter, 9H 24 Taurus Venus, 9H 25 Taurus sun, 9H Neptune @ 15 Pisces is on the DSC. That's very weird since my actual tropical SR for that year has ASC @ 15 Pisces, Lilith (i) @ 14 Virgo on DSC. It's also almost my Juno Return (tropical SR) with Juno @ 21 Virgo. Plenty of weird stuff about these 2024 SRs but I'm fascinated mostly about the role of Mercury here. In the tropical SR, MC @ 22 Sag conjunct Mercury @ 23 Sag. Okay I will be talking your ear off as usual, lumina. The draco SR has the MC @ 14 Gemini conjunct my natal draco Mercury @ 15 Gemini. Note to future self: what are you SAYING? Summoning you back in time to this thread and requesting feedback. lol
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Post by lumina on Aug 23, 2023 17:43:29 GMT
Ava just referring to the LIlith-Priapus thing. They are either in a quinkunx or opposition relationship to each other, like a pendulum swinging from the waxing quinkunx through opposition to the waning quinkunx and back again. Has a lot to do with the retrograde motion and I think most of the time Priapus might be faster, the irregularity has something to do with the Moon`s astronomy and motion, but I forgot the explanation. lol Anyway for this year, recently, the oppositions taking place 3rd may 13 Leo – Aqua 17th august 24 Leo – Aqua (Lilith conjunct Sun exact) 16th august Lilith – 24 Leo Sun – 23 Leo Moon – 23 Leo Priapus – 23 Aqua 28th November 5 Virgo – Pisces Square Sun 5 Sag 27th November Lilith 5 Virgo Pisces 8 Pisces r Sun 4 Sag Moon 4 Gemini
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