m2322 -
Your draco moon @ 27° Taurus conjunct my draco sun. Did I already exclaim about this?! I talk about draco so much it's just this vast plain of discussion...
Anyway, sorry for the delay!
"I have the same aspect lol"
Welcome to the tropical Venus conjunct draco Saturn club. We need some kind of slogan? How about "Love requires work" or something depressing like that?
"The other common thing that I observed was that my fathers NN is also in Sag, near your dads. And also, his SN (which is in Gemini of course lol) is exactly conjunct my brothers Sun. This has buffled me a little, as I always wonder why its SN and how a past life of my father would be connected to his son's Sun. Lol"
WOW...
"More importantly my grandfather's NN was exactly conjunct my father's Sun.
I rest my case hahahahah"
Isn't that amazing?
My paternal grandfather died before I was born and my father used to tell me "My father would have LOVED you" even though his father had the reputation for being cold, stern, and standoffish. Well his dad's NN @ 13 Capricorn conjunct my sun. So maybe I am the reincarnation of him.
Well my NN's in Scorpio and my Pluto is very tightly conjunct his sun. Also with a noon chart, his moon's @ 25° Taurus, exactly on my draco sun...while his Pluto is almost exactly conjunct my Mars.
I'm laughing that his draconic Mars is in Libra (like me) because SO MANY PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY are Libra Mars in tropical or draconic, I've joked that the glyphs for Mars in Libra ought to be our coat of arms.
Anyway..........
"And watch the irony of natal saturn conj. Draco Asc becoming ------> a Capricorn Asc in the natal!!!"
Ta-da! So happy that you weave things together like that.
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"Any clues observations and such are welcome!"
Probably, years ago, I've already avalanched you with a long analysis? I tend to do that to people. They THINK they want me to piece it together, until they see what a mess I've made of everything, in my search for patterns.
Let me see if I can organize this, though...
1.
ASC- Obviously, tropical Saturn conjunct draco ASC repeats Cap ASC theme.
- With a tropical ASC in Capricorn and draconic ASC in Libra, it's interesting that your tropical Venus (draco ASC ruler) is conjunct draco Saturn (tropical ASC ruler).
2.
Sun- Your Leo sun is domicile and stands by itself in some ways.
- Sun square Mars, with Mars ruling your draco Aries sun. Draco sun square nodes, draco Mars on NN.
- Sun on the DSC is similar to Libra sun...opposite of draco Aries sun. There is a cardinal grand cross energy here
- Sun conjunct Cancer Mercury, with Mercury dispositing the moon, and moon dispositing NN.
As if it's a question of, will you be yourself or sacrifice all for love? Will you be cold (Cap SN), selfish (Aries draco sun) and over-emotional (Cancer NN) *or* can you be strongly supportive (Cap SN), independently capable (Aries draco sun), and therefore grounded and able to nurture people in a very broad, VERY BROAD sense (draco stellium on Cancer NN including Mars.)
3.
Moon- Moon rules the NN
- Your natal Virgo moon and Cancer Mercury are in mutual reception. So it's interesting (to me) that your SN falls into draconic 3rd house, house of Mercury.
- SN falls into natal 12th house (tropical) reiterated by natal moon conjunct tropical Neptune.
- Draconic moon falls in tropical 4th house...
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So essentially you have Cancer NN, Mercury, Venus, (draco) Mars, (draco) Jupiter, (draco Saturn), (draco) Pluto. And your draco moon falls in your tropical 4H. Why are you even a Leo??? lol
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Mercury
As I said above, plus...
- Natal 3H contains draco sun-moon midpoint
- Gemini is in the natal 4th house (house of Cancer)
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Venus- If I had to pick a planet that ties everything together for you, this would be it.
- Chart ruler, Saturn, is in Libra, conjunct draco ASC.
- Taurus on the IC, so Cancer Venus rules the IC.
- Natal Cancer Venus, Cancer NN...some would consider those conjunct! (less than 10° orb).
- 5H Venus, 7H sun...almost a mutual reception, by house
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Libra stellium falls in draco 1st house; Libra draco ASC; draco Taurus moon, all this ruled by Venus- With all that first house emphasis, a draco Aries sun disposited by 1st house Mars is fitting.
Overall, the Aries draco sun on the Libran DSC, squaring tropical nodes, with draco stellium on NN....makes the whole moon/node picture extremely
cardinal.Yet there is all this 12H/Pisces/Neptune. Your NN is ruled by moon, your moon is conjunct draco Neptune, moon opp draco Pisces Venus (exalted); moon trine 12H south node.
Circular Neptunian energy all around.
Well Neptune is the higher octave of Venus.
Anyway...
So your nodal picture is quite integrated, because your SN is in earth, in a water house, and mirroring that, your NN is in water, in an earth house. Your earth moon is conjunct watery draconic Neptune. Your Neptune and Pluto form a yod with your draconic earth moon, which falls in tropical 4th house.
Pretty much, your whole chart has something to do with Cancer, even your sun is attached to Cancer Mercury, which is in mutual reception with the moon.
But the second MAJOR issue is your sun and Mars and their internal arguments. With sun square Mars, and draconic Mars ruling draconic sun, sitting on your NN, it's a question of, how do you ACT on feeling? It's hard, isn't it?
Cancer is paradoxically passive (ruled by moon) and active (cardinal). How much can you DO, which is not really actually doing anything at all? lol....Keep up the crystals collection, it fits perfectly in this scheme.
I'd be lying if I said that I thought I really got to the bottom of this mystery, but I'm exhausting myself, and it's probably south nodal for you (my sun on your SN, my Saturn on your sun). But with your draco Venus on my moon, I trust you'll forgive me.
And *ignore all this* is always an option. (My NN in Scorpio loves any excuse to just nuke everything
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