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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 23:18:12 GMT
You guys have such interconnected synastry there's no doubt a bunch of minor and major aspects are being made all over the place. I feel like I'm definitely shifting to the school of thought where these asteroids are crucial for chemistry..
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Post by midnight on Feb 27, 2018 0:15:38 GMT
Violets, do you always use 70% orb? Just curious. My astro.com puts 50% automatically. Nice aspects you have there! Loving this topic. Lilith confuses me a bit. athena I also have Sun/Priapus, but 3 degrees orb, perhaps its too wide to consider
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Post by Violets on Feb 27, 2018 1:02:54 GMT
midnight yeah, I always use 70%. The orb Astro.com gives me us way too wide, but 70 works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 15:59:51 GMT
midnight I don't think that orb is too wide at all! I usually use an orb up to 5° for asteroids (excluding the Vertex)
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Post by midnight on Feb 27, 2018 16:08:01 GMT
I thought it was like 0-3, but I guess since its a luminary, I can stretch it So hi fellow Sun/Priapus I wonder what men are like when they have this aspect *blushes and ducks away*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 16:16:48 GMT
That's exactly how I justify it I'm just lax on orbs in general though, I can feasibly see a planet/planet orb of 10° being viable in many a synastry I wonder if Sun/Priapus and Moon/Priapus in a woman means that she is intuitively and subconsciously in touch with her animus (aka a contra sexuality which is masculine in nature), meaning she can understand the desires of male natives very well? The animus is also rational-thinking in nature. Not to toot our own horns here or anything but it is a thought..
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Post by lumina on Feb 27, 2018 16:35:17 GMT
I am more strict with Asteroids. But Lilith and priapus are No Asteroids. They are calculated Points,so i would use the Same orbs AS with asc, MC or the nodal Axis. So for me that means roundabout 3 degrees, Stretching to 5 degrees ocasionally.
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Post by Violets on Feb 27, 2018 17:34:52 GMT
I try to follow strict orbs for most aspects, but with asteroids it seems that 3 degrees for a conjunction is valid. If I notice a theme with asteroid aspects, I may be inclined to give more leeway with orbs.
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Post by Violets on Feb 27, 2018 19:42:10 GMT
Correction to one of my aspects. It's Pallas that is conjunct my Lilith and "mean" BML, not Apollo. Heh. Still no idea what that means, but my Moon won't stand for such inaccuracies.
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Post by lumina on Feb 28, 2018 7:14:45 GMT
midnight yeah, I always use 70%. The orb Astro.com gives me us way too wide, but 70 works for me. astro.com`s orbs are weird, even if reducing the percentage it does not match my preferences. Because while it might reduce some to my liking, it completely erases others that I would still consider. This is particularly true for the axis to the nodal axis that astro.com mostly ignores anyway, unless they are super tight - and I am not talking about really wide orbs, but a square with 3°15 or so will definitely be in play, yet astro.com does not display it. Also with 70% it deletes our Venus-Jupiter and Venus-Mars trine; granted they are on the wide side, but under 5 degree orb still, which I think is reasonable. So I pretty much just transpose (mentally) my own orbs onto astro.com images.
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Post by lumina on Feb 28, 2018 7:22:59 GMT
Apart from the conjunction of his Priapus to my Lilith (at around 3 degree orb), which is getting tighter through progressions, along with a forming progression of my pVenus conjunct his natal and then pPriapus, well apart from that, we have some Yod-figures with those two points (along with involvement with Juno interestingly) His Lilith on 19 Virgo is on the Apex of the sextile between my Moon on 17 Aquarius and Chiron on 20 Aries, and opposes my Juno on 17 Pisces. my Priapus on 00 Leo is on the Apex of the sextile between his Moon on 28 Sagittarius (and my Vesta on 00 Cap) and his Priapus on 00 Pisces, and conjuncts his Juno on 27 Cancer. apart from that there are also some mixed Yods like his Lilith (19 Virgo) sextile my Saturn (17 Cancer) quinkunx my Moon (17 Aquarius) or my Lilith (27°57Aqua) sextile his Moon (28 Sag) and my Sun (26 Sag), quinkunx his Juno (27 Cancer) BTW when we first met/ talked his pPriapus was conjunct my natal Lilith with 0°01, applying. lol Also when we first met he had pLilith conjunct his natal DESC exactly opposing pEros on his natal ASC, with my pname in his chart applying to oppose his nLilith. Last time we met my pMoon was exactly conjunct his nLilith, and in august it will be my pMoon conjunct his pLilith (separating from his natal Saturn and applying to his natal Vertex). Well at least whenever Lilith is in play, things are being interesting, though I know that some people are downright loathing me for my sheer presence.
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Post by Violets on Feb 28, 2018 15:14:46 GMT
"So I pretty much just transpose (mentally) my own orbs onto astro.com images."
I do that often too, ha.
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Post by Violets on Mar 3, 2018 1:31:57 GMT
This could easily go in my blurt thread, but...I'm only now realizing that my Liliths are conjunct Pallas, which would seem to intensify the effect to some degree? Kind of trying to work that out in my head to see where it fits for me. Anyone care to add their input on that? I mean, I'm a feminist, obviously (well obvious to anyone who knows me). ❤
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Post by lumina on Mar 3, 2018 10:43:57 GMT
I don`t think I am a feminist (I am not even sure what that term implies), I just demand that both genders, and in fact every individual, is valued equally.
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Pallas 10 Aqua Moon 17 Aqua Psyche 24 Aqua mean BML 24 Aqua h21 BML 27 Aqua true BML 28 Aqua
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Post by lumina on Mar 3, 2018 10:51:49 GMT
VioletsPallas conjunct BML might indicate that you can very easily, almost like a "reflex", see and realize patterns surrounding the equal treatment (or lack of) of women in particular, but probably about any so called "minorities" as well. Also probably could make you gain a keen insight in your own issues or needs and expressions about individuality, independence within maintaining a relationship, or relating which each other, how the balance might get tipped, and from which point on you`d have to detach yourself from others, or relationships, or behavioural patterns of others (or yourself), so you can maintain a core feeling of integrity and being true to yourself. I think BML is not adverse to relationships, but for her to relate to another person, the only way it can be done is on the basis as equal partners, and if she feels that this relationship does not endanger her individuality and her own truth. She certainly is not one for co-dependent relationships. And not one to submit to social pressure or rules either. If the social conditioning clashes with her own feelings of her core identity, she`ll choose staying true to herself and maintain her authenticity even if it brings her in conflict to society norms. Let`s not forget she is detaching from the Moon/Earth-complex in favour to reach for the Sun. She`s not going to mother anyone (unless it is part of her real core identitiy).
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Post by Violets on Mar 3, 2018 10:58:25 GMT
"I just demand that both genders, and in fact every individual, is valued equally." That's basically the definition of feminism. I suspect that many people are feminists but aren't aware of it, because the term sometimes implies something more radical. Quick online Merriam Webster definition: "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes". ❤ (Sorry, not meaning to hijack the thread!)
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Post by Violets on Mar 3, 2018 11:03:56 GMT
lumina, absolutely brilliant insight as always, thank you. Yep, spot on with all of your interpretations above. I am (to my dismay) pretty codependent, but I have hard Neptune and Pluto aspects to my Moon and Venus, etc. I blame the outer planets.
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Post by Violets on Mar 3, 2018 11:11:30 GMT
Hmm. Psyche conjunct BML...? I wonder how that manifests?
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Post by lumina on Mar 3, 2018 14:03:39 GMT
Hmm. Psyche conjunct BML...? I wonder how that manifests? I am not really sure. Maybe I am just sensitive to BML-symbolism?
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Post by lumina on Mar 3, 2018 14:08:06 GMT
lumina , absolutely brilliant insight as always, thank you. Yep, spot on with all of your interpretations above. I am (to my dismay) pretty codependent, but I have hard Neptune and Pluto aspects to my Moon and Venus, etc. I blame the outer planets. I actually could imagine BML-synastries to lead to that element, too. But things cannot stay codependent with BML, she has to find her own voice/ individuality in a relationship, she cannot exist just to please somebody else, and possibly this leads to some conflicts down the road, when the relationship started out differently. But again, co-dependancy is something I consider as unhealthy (maybe this is just my own definition), I do not interprete people who feel they belong together and are making a good couple and are very close as co-dependent at all! Of course we need our partners, we are no islands as humans. The question is are we ready to sacrifice very core-traits or needs that make us "US" just in order to be with that person? And maybe vice versa? Do we sacrifice who we are for the sake of a relationship? That to me is co-dependancy (of course some compromises are always needed I guess, it just depends on how much do we compromise away?)
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