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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 3:32:39 GMT
Recently she made a video about her ending her channel and she said she wanted to be an actress. Now she posted something like this.
I am utterly confused because she's still talking about astrology and numerology
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Post by Ava on Sept 30, 2017 11:42:13 GMT
So she thinks she's cracked the code of the Book of Revelation.
Hmm, interesting she talks about giving up on our sun sign, I was just thinking of that yesterday.
This is too far out for even my "beastly" Pisces moon taste.
So my discerning, punishing Capricorn sun is clicking out at 11:00.
I wonder if she smokes pot.
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Post by anela on Sept 30, 2017 14:52:10 GMT
Has she gone Doreen Virtue's route? I saw something yesterday, about her quitting astrology to become an actress. I saw someone else say he'd stopped doing something, to try acting.
A woman posted the other day, that her therapist said everyone had gone bat__ since the last full moon. I thought that was inappropriate for a therapist, although this woman laughed and excused it, since she's close to getting her degree in that herself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 15:36:44 GMT
I tried to listen to her but found her to be too boring and too much into herself like she found all the knowledge in the world and no one else knows anything\ And No I did not listen to the whole thing *Pisces Moon
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 16:54:48 GMT
yea, and i am not christian so it was hard to follow...
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Post by Violets on Sept 30, 2017 17:51:50 GMT
I've never been a fan of hers, unfortunately. Her descriptions have never resonated much with me, so I haven't paid much attention. Didn't watch the video, but I agree that everything has been completely off the hook since the new moon and eclipse. I hope she's doing okay, anyway. 🌷
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Post by the89freespirit on Oct 1, 2017 19:00:35 GMT
Hmmm. Interesting. I just can't get into it, though. A major thing I don't connect to with the video (and her previous one) is this idea that "love" and "nurture" are separate, opposing forces. They are the same. Also, "the collective" she keeps referring to does not nurture. It can support, in an impersonal way, and accept. But, it's not nurturing because true nurturing is fueled by personal love. I can see where she's trying to go and the central theme but it's not landing in a way that makes a ton of sense to me. It's also impossible to exist without either a heart or a soul. Astrology links the spiritual and the physical together in many ways. It's why there is a certain science to it. So, it doesn't make much sense for an astrologer to be saying that.
She has transiting Saturn square her Ascendant right now and in her 9th, conjunct her Midheaven by a few degrees. This has to be changing a lot of what she previously believed in, to a degree that's impacting her self-image. She experiences the exact conjunction next month. So, I wonder what that will do for her. It's already changing quite a bit about her public image. Good for her if this journey is enlightening or empowering her. But, if it doesn't resonate for others, it doesn't mean that they're just "not ready" for the truth.
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Post by Ava on Oct 2, 2017 14:58:00 GMT
yea, and i am not christian so it was hard to follow... I think some non-Christians take interest in Revelation, seeing it as a book of prophecy, almost in line with Nostradamus, or like a simple code to break.
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Post by Ava on Oct 2, 2017 15:01:03 GMT
I tried to listen to her but found her to be too boring and too much into herself like she found all the knowledge in the world and no one else knows anything\ And No I did not listen to the whole thing *Pisces Moon Yeah The spiritual people who really know what they're talking about, the ones I trust, don't have that air of "I'm just sooo cute!" detracting from their message.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 15:23:21 GMT
When she started to stare at the camera and smile on cue I switched it off, not my cup of tea
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Post by anela on Oct 2, 2017 15:29:29 GMT
I rarely watch astrology videos, and I didn't actually watch this one, I've seen her on Facebook, though.
I used to follow two astrologers, Moses siregar and nick dagan best. The latter is now busy living a life, with the love of his life, preparing for their wedding. But I stopped paying attention to so many of them years ago. I've always been wary of gurus, and authors in the spiritual community were trying to sway people in an election, actually talking about their Angels and guides saying you must do this! That was years ago, but it put me off.
i still follow Anne ortelee and Eileen Nauman (Lindsay McKenna) on Facebook. I just stopped reading the long, terrifying predictions, especially around eclipses.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 23:27:50 GMT
She talks about being an individual and standing on your own feet whilst loving yourself instead of giving up who you are in order to fit in with the collective, which she identifies as a mark of the beast.
In her previous video she talked about making videos out of fear that people would be upset and make her feel as if she let them down. Her Pisces/Libra energy absorbed the demands of everyone watching her videos and in that process she describes how she lost herself in doing what everyone else wanted her to do instead of doing what she herself truly wanted to do. When she says give up your Sun sign, that's when you truly lose your individuality and becoming part of the crowd. Astrology identifies the Sun as what we want to become and the Moon as what we are instinctually, and through this she says that people lose their individuality after not going for what they want (their Sun) and instead going to be nutured by the collective in order to fit in, which is satisfying only what the Moon wants to feel emotionally comfortable. Through this she says that we should follow our Sun sign and learn to love ourselves without looking to seek acceptance from the collective, therefore learning to nuture ourselves without having to be nurtured by the collective and therefore nurturing our Moon sign through our Sun. It's our Sun Sign that gives us life and why it's in its fall in Libra; Libra seeks life and self-nurturing through others and therefore loses itself in the collective, Aries does not.
The reason why she contrasts nurturing and love is to identify this false illusion of nurturing people seek by fitting in; the fear of judgement and being outcasted due to not belonging causes people to give up their "soul", or individuality, in order to avoid being subjected to it. Therefore, in this sense, they are self-destructive because they are giving up themselves in the name of fear. It's when we love ourselves and create through the love that our sun sign provides that we can heal the pain that this earth is going through.
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Post by Ava on Oct 3, 2017 1:09:23 GMT
Well said, @electrode. Nice summary -- I just don't see why the book of Revelation had to be brought into it, and her saying women are "the beast" is sexist.
She should have you write her scripts, that would be better.
People are living out their sun mission all the time. For instance, almost every female celebrity I share a birthday with is interested in cooking and writing, and tending to their children...just as I am. Cap sun, Cancer duad: Nigella Lawson, Ree Drummond, Hilaria Baldwin, Gabrielle Reece, probably someone else I'm forgetting. All different moon signs, same basic interests.
Edit: It won't let me capitalize Electrode. Weird.
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Post by the89freespirit on Oct 3, 2017 1:54:35 GMT
She talks about being an individual and standing on your own feet whilst loving yourself instead of giving up who you are in order to fit in with the collective, which she identifies as a mark of the beast. In her previous video she talked about making videos out of fear that people would be upset and make her feel as if she let them down. Her Pisces/Libra energy absorbed the demands of everyone watching her videos and in that process she describes how she lost herself in doing what everyone else wanted her to do instead of doing what she herself truly wanted to do. When she says give up your Sun sign, that's when you truly lose your individuality and becoming part of the crowd. Astrology identifies the Sun as what we want to become and the Moon as what we are instinctually, and through this she says that people lose their individuality after not going for what they want (their Sun) and instead going to be nutured by the collective in order to fit in, which is satisfying only what the Moon wants to feel emotionally comfortable. Through this she says that we should follow our Sun sign and learn to love ourselves without looking to seek acceptance from the collective, therefore learning to nuture ourselves without having to be nurtured by the collective and therefore nurturing our Moon sign through our Sun. It's our Sun Sign that gives us life and why it's in its fall in Libra; Libra seeks life and self-nurturing through others and therefore loses itself in the collective, Aries does not. The reason why she contrasts nurturing and love is to identify this false illusion of nurturing people seek by fitting in; the fear of judgement and being outcasted due to not belonging causes people to give up their "soul", or individuality, in order to avoid being subjected to it. Therefore, in this sense, they are self-destructive because they are giving up themselves in the name of fear. It's when we love ourselves and create through the love that our sun sign provides that we can heal the pain that this earth is going through. I do feel like this is what she was essentially saying. But, again, the constant use of "nurture" is just what's bothering me. Maybe I'm being nitpicky. It's just that gaining public acceptance is not the same at all as being nurtured, unless you have your Moon in the 10th House or 1st House. Otherwise, nurturing is a very personal connection. So, what it boils down to is her saying "be yourself" and don't be what other people want you to be. Don't be too dependent on the illusion of popularity and mass acceptance. It's a great message, for sure. But... not an original, earth-shattering revelation, either, which is what she pretty much presented it to be. I don't want to come off as mean or anything because it is another astrologer. So, I don't want to sound petty. She has shown herself to be really talented and knowledgeable so many times throughout the years. But, there are certain times where she doesn't put things into words in the clearest or most accurate way, probably due to her Pisces Rising. Also, the use of "the collective" is just as off. She talks about "ascending to the collective", seemingly referring to some spiritual experience and a connection to the collective unconscious. But, what she really means is just getting people to like you? Those are not the same things at all. Letting go of ego (which no one can ever totally do, by the way, and many highly spiritual people acknowledge this) is not the same thing as not having a strong sense of self. The former is a healing thing that comes from a spiritual anchor. The latter is out of insecurity. I've heard her disparage people who seek enlightenment before and I think it's kind of ignorant, to be honest. In her mind, people who want to be enlightened are phonies. But, actually, true enlightenment is understanding the balance between ego and egoless states, finding inner peace, and developing compassion and higher understanding. All of these things are worthwhile, valid pursuits. If someone is proclaiming to do these things while being deeply hypocritical and un-spiritual, that's one thing. Yet, to call anyone who seeks a valid path "stupid" while declaring yourself to be totally right is really problematic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 3:55:28 GMT
I guess I am confused about why she said it was the end of her channel, and boom she's back talking about 666 ... so what changes and transformation did she show via her channel now? The part about her becoming an actress, and still nothing different is shown on her channel is strange too. She's still talking about astrology, not playing a role.
It's nice to see someone finally appreciating themselves. And it was emotionally honest, so I am not picking on her message here, but her examples et al just sound like she never moved on from the time she was in high school and was an outcast. She's 32 now ... that's a long time to be reminiscing a time when really all of us were clueless and childish. And the discussion about some astrologers criticizing her showing her boobs was kinda ... IDK when you are the new kid on the block, you get picked on a little, and that happens in every field. Your newness will contrast the old, worn-out way of things, but lots of people cited her as influence, some astrologers even bring her to the table and made videos with her.
It's really unrealistic to expect to be loved all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 20:27:47 GMT
Something is definitely going on. To echo anela about Doreen Virtue, it seems a lot of people in the tarot community are having an existential crisis. I used to love using the site hamderser.dk for tarot interpretation, but whenever you click on the site (or any Google link leading to one of its pages), it redirects you to a rather bizarre Youtube video about the new world order. I finally got fed up and emailed the site owner, asking if he knew his site got hacked and when it was coming back. I received several rambling, passive aggressive emails back about how that Youtube link was intentional and the site is never coming back. It is a bit disturbing to say the least, all of these people turning away from divination and radicalizing themselves. Edit: Also! I completely forgot to mention this but the site tarotforum.net got shut down back in July. I couldn't believe it. I had been on that site for years -- it was around for 17 years apparently (totally archaic when you think about how old websites tend to be). The owner just shut it down, zero explanation whatsoever, didn't want anyone to "take it over" or anything like that. Truly bizarre.
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Post by anela on Oct 8, 2017 6:55:20 GMT
Something is definitely going on. To echo anela about Doreen Virtue, it seems a lot of people in the tarot community are having an existential crisis. I used to love using the site hamderser.dk for tarot interpretation, but whenever you click on the site (or any Google link leading to one of its pages), it redirects you to a rather bizarre Youtube video about the new world order. I finally got fed up and emailed the site owner, asking if he knew his site got hacked and when it was coming back. I received several rambling, passive aggressive emails back about how that Youtube link was intentional and the site is never coming back. It is a bit disturbing to say the least, all of these people turning away from divination and radicalizing themselves. Edit: Also! I completely forgot to mention this but the site tarotforum.net got shut down back in July. I couldn't believe it. I had been on that site for years -- it was around for 17 years apparently (totally archaic when you think about how old websites tend to be). The owner just shut it down, zero explanation whatsoever, didn't want anyone to "take it over" or anything like that. Truly bizarre. I was a member of that site, too, since 2005. I spent hours there at first. I used to love reading other people's readings in the circles, and the study groups. I think this is a site a lot of others moved to: cartomancy.forumotion.com/ although it was prettier when I signed up. Unless I have the wrong link. That was weird - people were rushing to copy things, and find a new place to go.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 16:24:40 GMT
athenaOmg I thought that site got hacked as well. And yes to Tarot forum being shut down
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Post by Ava on Oct 9, 2017 16:09:18 GMT
Sorry for going a bit off topic... My guess is, people are turning to religion more because of Sag Saturn (rigid philosophy), especially since it's squaring Pisces Neptune by sign (nebulous thinking; things becoming "too universal"). So those of us who are overwhelmed by the uncertainties highlighted by Neptune might go running towards the more attractive world of absolutes (Saturn's domain, and here it's in Sag). And maybe within that context we can kid ourselves into thinking we aren't a global village after all; we don't have to actually heal the whole world. Or, if we do, we have these old, Saturnine tools: the concept of salvation, missionary work. As I see it, Sagittarius is interested in culture and anthropology, along with trying to forge a completely cosmic worldview, and religion plays into that; the Sags I've known are much more inclined to study religion than practice it. But most of the Sag Saturn people I've known are religious. Another phenomenon that possibly arises from this square - one of so many - is an increasing number of religious songs on the secular airwaves, like Kesha's "Praying," Sam Smith's "Pray," and a few years ago, Hozier's "Take Me to Church." Justin Bieber has gotten religious again so it will be interesting to see if anything comes of that, musically. For my part I'm leaving you with a tribute to "Jah" - Haile Selassie, Messiah of Rastafarians. From my astro-twin: I think he's saying grace before smoking pot. Oh well, the Universe loves gratitude, so.....
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Post by Ava on Oct 11, 2017 21:32:00 GMT
LOL, now this...
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