August 2017 - Eros conjunct Psyche in late Virgo

[Ava]

Tomorrow they are conjunct @ 26 Virgo, though I don't know how close they will get, because I haven't the software nor patience to work it out. 

I just Googled this and only found one article:

twinstrology.com/eros-psyche-conjunction-august-10-2017/

Pardon the twin flame rhetoric if that isn't your cup of tea. 

I'm curious if anyone has key placements that are affected by this conjunction?

Any hopes or experiences?

[Deleted]

The article briefly mentioned that the last time Psyche and Eros were conjunct was two years ago.. though no mention of the date, sign, or degree.

So I tinkered around on astro.com and it appears that Psyche and Eros were last conjunct on Feb the 19th-21st at around 20-23° Pisces back in 2015. That is interesting. That's actually *fascinating* because that would be the exact month I would bump into someone I knew 10 years prior. That re-meeting would eventually pave the path to this person being my current boyfriend (albeit this romance would materialize much later in early 2016). The conjunction would have been conjunct my own Mars/Vertex in Pisces.

My ASC is at 28° Virgo so that's pretty cool! I'm not sure what I hope for necessarily. Any little good thing would suffice

[Ava]

Wow, that's AMAZING, athena!

Oh now I wish we had a list of all the times they were conjunct. Google is not cooperating...sigh...

[Violets]

It will trine my Mars at 26 Capricorn, and conjunct my husband's Pluto at 27 Virgo.

*cough*

It will also be conjunct our baby's Klotho at 26 Virgo, and Jupiter/Mercury at 25 Virgo.

Well. That's...interesting.

What's weird is that I only just now noticed that the Roman equivalent of Clotho is a name that I share, and goes back generations in my family. Also interesting (and off topic) is that my natal Klotho is conjunct my Dsc by minutes. Weird.

Don't quote if you don't mind, I might edit out that last bit.

Annnnywaayy. My Asc is showing, sorry.

[Violets]

athena, that really is cool!

[Ava]

Violets

Heheh I was thinking of whether or not to mention any especially nice things going on with my husband. LOL

I actually had a dream last night that fits this whole theme but I don't want to paint that in vivid colors either. But it was a great dream!

I watched Jewel Mayberry's video on Eros & Psyche before falling asleep:



She talks about Saturn/Eros there, how these people are never spontaneous with their sex lives, but cautious getting into relationships. I have the opposition, and that applies. In case anyone was wondering. Though, probably they weren't.

[Ava]

Violets , again ~

That's so interesting about Klotho, and your name!

I wish I had a story like that...well my name is standard Irish, so chances are pretty high that many, many women shared my full name (first, middle, and last names) before me, going way back. But I don't actually connect with my name.

Anyway, Klotho is an asteroid for beginnings, and mine is @ 0° Aries, conjunct Vesta. I got married when the sun was transiting on these (timing not intentional, but very cool, IMO!)

[lumina]

Ava

interesting, I wonder if my Saturn is considered conjunct Eros, though the conjunction is very wide (4 degrees). But hey at least in 8th house (and Cancer), and Eros exact on Vertex and far Sun/Moon-mp.

But in all honestly P did REALLY not need putting his Nessus right onto the midpoint of that widish Saturn-Eros-conjunction in my chart. lol

[Ava]

edit

K, this tell-all served its purpose.

[lumina]

Ava

not going to quote the story you posted, but it was intriguing to read.
I wonder, too, if maybe it is easier for someone with the opposition to "split" the two "apart"? like distancing from either part of the equation? Or maybe the opposition just illuminates one or the other, whereas with the conjunction it all more merged together, like you cannot get Eros without Saturn, but then on the other hand you also don`t get Saturn without Eros.
Well in my case it might not be as merged, as it is widish, but putting someones planet or asteroid in the middle of them short of extends the forcefield. I guess so at least.

I know what you mean about naivete though; I do remember one particular occasion with a little CAncer boy I grew up with and who was (or is) 2 years younger than me. I had seen the adults hugging and kissing (esp. my parents) for new year, so I sort of suggested to Cancer who was staying with his parents for the new years celebrations,t hat we could do the same, kissing each other when the clock rang midnight (yes even when I was like 6 or 7 years old, I was into timing I guess. lol), he didn`t object, and I think it was me kissing him that midnight, I mean you know how children kiss, just a very innocent kiss shared between us. And well I was not thinking much about it, just imitating grown up behaviour, and it was a gesture nothing more, didn`t mean a bloody thing.
I certainly did not understand why that little boy started running after me, clinging to me whenever he saw me anywhere, demanding of me to get married to him, and when I wouldn`t want to, locking me up in his room, where I was screaming bloody murder so I was alarming probably not only his parents but whole Germany! lol

He ceased for a little while, but then a few years afterwards, when he was about 12 and I 14, started again, with the running after me, always forcing hugs on me and so on. I really had a hard time getting rid of him and had to be REALLY mean to him and treat him badly, I think. I am fuzzy on that, but I`ve learned that some guys just tend to misinterprete some actions just being done out of curiosity or playfulness and that those are NOT promises of forever!


Well I guess this can be filed under a Sag-girl / Cancer-boy kind of story. lol

I mean we were just kids and in retrospect it`s funny, and he`s married now with a 3 year old kid, so all is good, but well, I actually have no clue maybe his Sun was near my Saturn-Eros somewhere? He is a Cancer, so it is possible, and born in july, I think in the first week or first 10 days of july, but not sure about it. Well on 7th - 9th july Tr Sun is on my Saturn and on 12th - 14th july Tr Sun is on my Eros and Vertex (which of course means it was there the last time P and me interacted directly with each other on his concert. lol)

[Ava]

Edit - Sorry to break up the flow but Eros...meh...a little tricky to talk about.

[lumina]

Ava

very interesting. Yes, it is similiar here, though not so much induced by some catholic upbringing (we are protestants actually, though this does not matter). And well no there was never a "wait with sex until you`re married" kind of thinking (well my mom was 3 months pregnant with me when they got married.

I do think however there was an underlying: "only have sex in a committed relationship with a partner you trust and love", though it was not really an explicit thing. But I was never the kind anyway.

I do think the greater issues were actually introduced with the neighbouring family (esp. the mother), where I spent a lot of time and also stayed overnight, who were extremely hypocritical when it came to these things. On the one hand reacting hysterical towards more innocent explorations of the senses (let`s call it like that. lol) of kids, but at the same time completely and nowadays I think deliberately ignoring their son (or maybe even both of them) molesting his sister and her friend (though admittedly my memory is a bit fuzzy on the details, and I do not mean to accuse anyone unfairly, and to be fair, he was just a boy at that time himself, though a few years older; all I can say for sure is that whatever happened in that house, and even if it was just imagined, it left an emotional trace of confusion, a feeling of a vague threat, embarassment, insecurity, fear and shame surrounding a more natural expression of physicality, let`s put it like that, not even quite sexuality, and also apparently a strong psychic power of defense. It`s difficult to explain. But I am quite aware that my friend`s mother grew quite fearful of me eventually.)

Well the parents are both dead now, and I just recently crossed paths with the neighbour`s brother when they were walking some dogs, and it was a surprise meeting but I think I must have looked not too friendly at him, cause at first he tried to smile at me, but then his expression froze and he looked really startled and couldn´t meet my eyes anymore. Well my Dad sometimes mentioned my capacity for giving people the "evil eye". I must have picked up one or two things from my Scorpio mother, and apart from that sometimes it feels, as if I, unintentionally of course, get some clear psychic messages through to people, if being pushed into an intense moment like this. Sometimes it is a message of love and admiration, sometimes of anger (gotta keep that in check, cause if I let it go unchecked, sometimes these people suffer some misfortunes later; well nowadays I just imagine a mirror between me and these peoples so whatever they send out gets sent back without me getting too involved. I don´t want to cause anything bad, even to bad people, casue wishing them harm, would be a dark spot on MY soul, no matter how much I think they deserve it, so I usually at some point sit down and say: Karma or universe, it`s yours to deal with. lol

I remember two people having wronged me, in official positions, one was a doctor who was mistreating me, actually verbally, he was at some point shouting at me and pretty much telling me I was wasting his time for no reason (btw the doctor I changed to diagnosed my thyroid malfunction after that, so much for no reason), I was feeling very angry about that, but even though it took all my selfcontrol I just got up and left, imagining that mirror thing, even though I felt it was unfair I had to leave, after all he was in the wrong.

A few months after that he had to actually leave Germany fleeing the authorities because he had not payed his taxes or doing some fraud and they then had caught wind of it and started pursuing this case (he would have gone to jail for this had he stayed, it had been that much).


Another thing was an argument with a former landlady of mine who was witholding the deposit from me when I moved out, claiming that there were some scratches in the bathtub that had not been there before, and she had to renovate the whole bath because of htis, which was obviously a lie. But the lawyer I saw couldn`t promise me that I would definitely win the case, even though he also said that this lady was doing something like that not for the first time.

Anyway I was deciding if it was important enough for me to be in the right, or if getting her out of my life was good enough. And I really did not want a person like that in my life, not at all. (my mom never understood that I think, she would have liked to fight this to the end, I just put an end to it, letting her know what I was thinking of her and that I knew what she was doing,b ut that I would just let her keep the money, because I did not want people like her in my life. I had better things to do.)

A few weeks after that the house she owned (which I had moved out from) caught fire and the walls were having severe burnmarks. NOne of the appartments were being damaged, but since it was her house, she had to pay for the damage at the stone walls, which must have been at least the cost of what she had deprived me of.

SEriously, maybe I am a bad person, but I had to laugh about it. I did not mean for anything to happen to her or her posession, but sorry, she deserved to having to pay this extra money. lol Even though she did not pay it to me obviously, but who knows? maybe the people who did repair the wall needed it more urgently than me?).


Anyway and when I met this guy just recently, he was freezing up, I think because of the expression in my eyes; as I am not good at hiding my feelings in such moments, he probably clearly saw the "You are Nothing and you are not allowed to talk to me" expression in there.


But anyway, I don´t even remember too clearly, but I trust my emotional memory.

[Violets]

lumina, wow. You've mentioned some of that to me, but it still gives me shivers. Neighbors are weird. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. 😅

[lumina]

Violets

yes when we moved here, I´ve been having quite some problems with the neighbours, most of it revolving around some kind of powergames (speaking of the kids obviously. lol).
I don´t know maybe I was just not as nicely adaptable or subservient as I was supposed to be?
I sort of seem to have threatened a certain kind of hierarchy, unknowingly of course, and simply did not really fit the follower-type, and being the new girl in town, well it was a bit difficult at times (even apart from the story I just told).

I remember a lot of jealousy and competitive vibes there, apart from some nice things, too.
But well I`ve been on the receiving end of death threats from different kids twice in the same year I think (One came from an older girl who said she would beat me to death if I told anyone she had been smoking; the other came from a boy living a bit apart from us, from a gypsy family, and he did not like to see me talking to his sister, and threatened also to kill me until the end of a certain day - of course these were empthy threats but they left an impression. Not enough for me to budge, apparently. LOL Well in a way of sad irony the girl many years later belonged to a group that actually DID beat me up, and her elder brother, another brother, was among those who put an end to it, it was NOT a particular nice experience; also curiously my little brother had similiar issues with a younger brother of that family; and when I was being a bit older I remember several encounters where my brother, who has the Down Syndrome, was being threatened. Well once we were both threatened to be stabbed by another youth, becuase my brother, not always that saintly btw, had been flinging some swear words at the other kid, still I thought it still was not a reason for him to get hurt or worse. I remember it was one of the weirdest moments in my life. When that boy was pointing the knife at us, I just stepped forwards, and suddenly everything around me became so still, like deadly still, and it felt like everthing, every energy or molecule was focused on my solar plexus, probably just me experiencing a moment of intensity and intense focus, well I just took that step forward looked at the boy and said: "Give me the knife." he was raging and telling me to slice me open like I don`t know what. and I just repeated very slowly: "You will give me the knife now." There was no question or doubt in my mind, and then I put my hand around the blade, and well I did not have a scratch afterwards, so it seems he must have let it go instantly when I touched the blade, I turned the knife around and handed it back to the boy, apologizing for my brother`s behaviour telling hiim that my brother should not have called him like that, but that he should not have threatened us either. The boy just stared at me, turned around and ran away.

To be honest just thinking about that moment, well luckily I was not thinking that moment, as there have been 2 or 3 moments like this I have not been thinking and that pretty much saved the day, so to speak. lol


But yeah, I guess there is a reason I am highly suspicious of people in crowds as well as the whole neighbour/ people you encounter thing. There are quite some nasty memories attached with those "fleeting encounters", either having to deal with those threats, or some men (usually southeuropean or African men, sadly it is true, I wish it wasn`t, but I seemed to have been a target for those) who didn`t know where to keep their hands properly (which would have been OFF me - though It hink in most cases I made my point quite clear. it did nothing to encourage trust in meeting strangers though. lol)

[Violets]

lumina, omfg. Just...what...?! Wow.

But clearly, you're a Jedi. I suggest changing your pic to Princess Leia or Luke Skywalker. ❤

[lumina]

Well, if I go back in my memory, there was no HUGE big thing standing out as so awful, horrible or whatever, but those little things really exhausted my trust in people/ fleeting encounters/ aquaintances.

[Violets]

Jedi powers, I say.

[Ava]

Super creepy stories, lumina. I just get a gross feeling about the neighbors. Weirdly, also, my Bavarian friend experienced the exact same thing when she left her last house. The landlady claimed they had damaged the property, a total lie and betrayal, since they were excellent caretakers (my friend's a Libra moon and adores cleaning and decorating, that gives you a general idea.) It was really disturbing but they are also not the type of people to let icky monsters from the deep swallow them whole, so they just kissed their deposit and the landlady goodbye, and considered themselves happy to be free. Something evil also happened there, after they left, there was a break-in, I believe.

Rather than catching darkness from neighbors, and I'm almost glad I don't know the full extent of what you are referring to, I was psychically very open to the sexual energy of the Catholic church: all the weirdness there. Just my opinion, but where sex is banned, it tends to become distorted in dangerous ways, hence all these controversies with priests. And that kind of problem did happen within my parish, with a priest who used to sit with me at lunch by the way, and was later accused of the worst of it. The real issue, again, was energy poison. I knew something was VERY VERY wrong about my surroundings, but no one would explain. Everyone pretended everything was fine. "Oh you don't want to go to church, it feels creepy to you? The problem is with YOU." Actually, no, it totally was not.

Anyway, interesting how we both have Saturn-Eros and it developed in such different ways.

Jedi Lumina.

Funny, I was going to mention, relative to the Sag I mentioned above, how I wasn't attracted to him when we met as teenagers, I didn't think he was that cute, and most of what he was saying didn't click with me. Yet I do remember a few times that day, it's like his energy fired out like solar flares, causing me to think, "What the heck was that? Are you actually hot and I haven't realized it yet?" LOL

Sag power. Just in general, you know what I mean, it's really something else.

[anela]

My evening:

1) Saw a link from an article in the guardian, about what to do in the event of a nuclear attack. That prompted a  lot of swearing out of me.
2) That was immediately followed by my dad bringing the dogs back to the van. One had been skunked, and kept trying to cuddle me, which made me kind of scream a couple of times, because I needed to get out of the van and go into a store.
3) Got ma'amed in the bookstore. I hate getting ma'amed.

A guy did smile at me there, just before I left. I really hope I had no eau de skunk on/around me.

This conjunction happened in my 11th house, conjunct my draco Moon and Venus. Or 10th house. I can't remember the chart, but my ascendant changed to Pisces in my draco chart. Natal chart, it's my 11th. 

[Violets]

anela
"Got ma'amed". 😂😂
Yeah, I never appreciate that, either. It hasn't happened for a while, and I don't expect "Miss", but yeah...

My day was pretty much the same stuff it usually is, nothing particularly noteworthy.