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Post by whisperix on Jul 3, 2017 16:30:12 GMT
I was watching my favourite youtoube forecast and she had an download for each Chiron sign. more@He will turn rx this year and will enter Aries on 18th of April 2018. For the beginning Sourcethe89freespiritMay I ask: What do you think about the impact of tChiron on a natal chart? AvaI do think that in a #1year. A year of change and new beginnings. With the amount of Rx planets plus a Chiron that will enter the Aries point soon I do think that there could be some healing this year. As to my chart: I only have tChironRx affecting my opposing Venus and tPlutoRx is in my 8th house. Well, what do you think?
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Post by whisperix on Jul 3, 2017 16:33:46 GMT
AvaI like that your dream told you to listen to your heart.
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Post by Violets on Jul 3, 2017 17:52:27 GMT
Hm. It hadn't occurred to me that Chiron will conjunct my Venus and Ceres, my youngest's Moon, my oldest's Uranus, trine my husband's Venus, square his Moon, and oppose his MC/Uranus. A few degrees later it will oppose my Pluto, my oldest' Saturn, and square his Pluto while conjunct his asteroid Karma. Wth... 😳
I don't mean to derail, but I just realized that. Hopefully we'll all experience a lot of healing.
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Post by whisperix on Jul 3, 2017 17:59:16 GMT
Violets It is interesting to see Chiron's contact in your family. Do you think it relates more to healing or awakening of Moon/Venus, Saturn/Pluto topics within your family? You know there can not be enough love.
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Post by Violets on Jul 3, 2017 17:59:32 GMT
Oh... interesting to not that last night I experienced some much needed, seemingly spontaneous (but prayed for) spiritual healing. Chiron is conjunct my 8th house Jupiter (25 degrees) at the moment. Anyway...
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Post by Violets on Jul 3, 2017 18:03:07 GMT
Violets It is interesting to see Chiron's contact in your family. Do you think it relates more to healing or awakening of Moon/Venus, Saturn/Pluto topics within your family? You know there can not be enough love. You know, I believe it probably will. I hope so, anyway. There's healing to be found in those areas for us, and what I've noticed so far with Chiron transits is that it truly does bring tremendous healing. I suspect a move might be possible, as it will be transiting my 9th and my husband's MC, so that could bring up some stuff, but I like the idea of Chiron helping us to dig into our wounds and allow them to heal.
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Post by Ava on Jul 4, 2017 15:13:54 GMT
whisperixI still don't have much of an opinion of Chiron. Transit Chiron conjunct my 8H moon brought a lot of pain, I still have after-shocks from that...I suppose it hasn't helped that tr Uranus has been conjunct my Chiron. Its like seeing things in the dark (8H) that you would rather not have to see. But I see, cope, try and make the most of it. Well Pisces Chiron tends towards oblivion and the healing of releasing all, while Aries Uranus tends to grab life by the horns and ride it like a bucking bronco. These two have been moving in and out of semisextile formation, and it's almost like a challenge of reorienting one's self to a different kind of pace, or a different concept of time, where peace and frenzy overlap in odd ways. Where I might feel fine one moment, emotionally dangling over a cliff the next, and talking myself into safe ground again, or just letting myself fall sometimes, while still cognizant of the fact that "Nurse Neptune's gonna solve it for me someday" (Pisces Chiron). Well that's just a whimsical illustration...just hunches. I think Chiron-Venus could be very hard, to state the obvious. Virgo Venus is a healing Venus, according to its own methods, and yet the Pisces Chiron energy in the air is on a whole different wavelength which might feel groundless and chaotic to Virgo. Perhaps you might feel as if your own style of loving isn't appreciated enough at this time, perhaps people take it for granted, or they've grown a little cynical towards whatever feels conventional and cerebral. It's not that your words fall on deaf ears, but people might just be distracted or incapable of making use of your wisdom. Ultimately the opportunity for healing may come from adapting to the current climate, expanding your level of understanding to encompass even more, and can self-validate from a place outside of previous mental habits. It's learning to cope after you've reached a practical limit of what's fixable, relying more on a sense that universal order will straighten things out. With that private (Chiron Rx) conclusion to lean against, your loving nature may shine brighter when all is said and done, as you won't resent future partners for failing to even try to avail themselves fully of your services...there will possibly be a healthy disconnect, where you just do what feels right to you, and follow your instinct to the greenest pastures, without as much concern for what other people do. This is all basically just a question -- I'm an amateur and guessing and exploring. Tr Pluto Rx in the 8th could point to certain quiet agonies to be endured simultaneously, with the churning up and processing of old pains, scary problems you would rather avoid or deal with obliquely than head-on...but Pluto can be a healer, too, especially if you develop a new set of coping mechanisms to replace whatever was in place before, and transform towards greater alignment with your inner truths, your clearer concept of your past, who you were and how you got here, and why things are the way they are. Pluto in Capricorn takes a serious view of all this, with an eye to self-advancement in a worldly sense, asking how you might step into updated versions of yourself, all the time, consecutively...and I'd say just being present and aware as you are, this might be a smooth process and more streamlining and detailing than an outright overhaul of your life or personality. But I suppose it depends on the aspects Pluto is forming. Again, this is just an astrology addict dabbling at the computer, trying to guess and see. Good luck with everything, everyone.
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Post by anela on Jul 4, 2017 19:17:11 GMT
Chiron square moon/Venus/nodes was horrible. It was also conjunct my Mars along with Neptune, so that ties in. Also trine my Uranus/ascendant at the time. Not feeling so good right now. Be back later.
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Post by Violets on Jul 4, 2017 19:39:37 GMT
It's weird, because while Chiron transited over my Sun it opposed my Moon and squared my Nodes and Neptune. I found a really awesome therapist who also did energy healing and Reiki, so it was a good healing time for me.
Similarly, with Chiron conjunct my Jupiter and Uranus conjunct my Chiron/Juno conjunction, a lot of energy healing, and healing of past hurts.
I also had both of my children during those times, so again good things not painful.
Both my Sun and Jupiter are in 8th.
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Post by Ava on Jul 5, 2017 0:23:54 GMT
Transit Chiron was conjunct my sun soon after my daughter was born, and while I was radiantly happy to have a daughter, trouble was brewing within my family that put me in a serious funk, where I thought to myself, "So this is what rock bottom feels like." At that point I had some healing dreams. I don't know, maybe it's just the script that Chiron calls to mind, where I look at that time period and I don't see pain or healing, but both together, and I'm left with a rather neutral opinion...it was just intense all-around. "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted." - Randy Pausch Hmm it's also like that Garth Brooks song "The Dance" but I will spare you the video. Our lives are better left to chance I could've missed the pain But I'd have had to miss the dance.
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Post by Violets on Jul 5, 2017 1:34:30 GMT
I think that, as the type of person I am, looking into past hurts and wounds and trying to figure them out, analyze, and heal them is so inherently natural and necessary for me--like breathing, practically--maybe it just doesn't bother me as much. It's like a normal routine part of my life, so when a transit comes around that actually propels that process, I'm very thankful for it.
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Post by whisperix on Jul 6, 2017 9:19:15 GMT
AvaThank you much for your effort! I am reading it now as I have time. I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your input, but I am a slow with the reading part.
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Post by Ava on Jul 7, 2017 13:13:39 GMT
whisperix, You're welcome. Hope it made some sense.
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Post by Ava on Jul 7, 2017 13:29:44 GMT
VioletsThat all makes sense, and I'm sure I do this, too.....but with respect to those issues that can't be fixed, I don't know if healing is ever totally possible. (?) I might feel better for a while but the same old issue or pain comes back again. You know, just the circumstances of my life are not what I envisioned when I was young...it's ongoing. I realized that I go to great lengths to preserve a sense of inner peace. When I am peaceful inside I do feel "healed" because I can just roll with the punches and keep my equilibrium. But I guess there's always a part of us that is mourning our dead, and by that I mean people who are gone, or even dreams or hopes that are gone. So maybe we can be fully healed while still reserving a part of ourselves for that heaviness and darkness. I guess that's mainly what Buddhism is about? Addressing the suffering and transcending the suffering. Someday maybe I'll be Buddhist.
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Post by whisperix on Jul 7, 2017 13:46:35 GMT
Ava I had to translate many things . Therefore I learned more English words from you. Thank you! I may have made a mistake as my Venus is in Libra and the opposition will occur next year. Nevertheless the most accurate sentence is "It's learning to cope after you've reached a practical limit of what's fixable, relying more on a sense that universal order will straighten things out." You did put a big smile on my face with this part "....as you won't resent future partners for failing to even try to avail themselves fully of your services...." Maybe I will print that on a T-shirt for the next man who tries to talk to me. TPluto did aspect every planet in my chart years ago and when it entered I asked myself: "What person can die and make my sad?" The universe found only one way and it had as you said. "Tr Pluto Rx in the 8th could point to certain quiet agonies to be endured simultaneously, with the churning up and processing of old pains, scary problems you would rather avoid ..." I do remain an airy spirit and with all the books I have read I can detest.
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Post by whisperix on Jul 7, 2017 13:48:02 GMT
AvaMmmmm. How will you look like when you are a Buddhist?
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Post by Violets on Jul 7, 2017 16:35:13 GMT
That's my response to people when they give me unsolicited advice (my favorite thing ever) about not thinking about things I'm trying to work out, lol. "I'm sorry I'm not a Buddhist monk, okay?" 😂 Sorry if I sounded smug, Ava. I was mostly just trying to figure out why those transits seem to be better for me than other hard transits (I can't hang with hard Saturn or Mars transits). I didn't mean to sound pompous about it. ❤
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Post by Ava on Jul 7, 2017 20:26:51 GMT
Ava Mmmmm. How will you look like when you are a Buddhist? Buddhist-ish? Thanks very much for your feedback.
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Post by Ava on Jul 7, 2017 20:38:25 GMT
Violets, I didn't think you sounded smug. I don't know much about Buddhism, but I know they immerse themselves in suffering (working with prisoners and so on) with an eye towards being able to rise above it. The comparison came to mind because I had been thinking of a situation that can never be fixed, only my attitude can. So we were kinda just saying the same thing. But I was thinking, it's not like a wound gets healed and you don't have to deal with it anymore. These are wounds that re-open for me again and again. I think I just got perplexed about the word "heal" because sometimes it means "overcome, solved" and sometimes it just means "okay again, for now." ❤️
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Post by Violets on Jul 7, 2017 21:27:08 GMT
I'll have to think on that, Ava. It offers a lot for me to ponder. I don't know if I have situations like that in my life, just crap and resentment/pain that I need to heal mostly from the past, but occasionally as things come up in life. There are people who I will probably never hear "I'm sorry" from, and loved ones who no longer affect my life positively so I grieve over those things I can't change... But with the desire to heal my wounds despite not being able to change people or life. So yes, I suppose we are saying sort of the same thing? 🤔 Be back after pondering that. ❤
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