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Post by t5 on Apr 27, 2022 6:32:11 GMT
The above images show a configuration/planetary-picture as it appears in my 11th Harmonic Chart and my Natal/1st Harmonic Chart. I have used the Tropical Zodiac to draw them ... but, in the Sidereal Zodiac, all five planets are in the same (placidus) houses; Sun + Mars are in the same sign and Moon + Saturn + Pluto are respectively in Gemini + Leo + Cancer. However, although the thread by glaucus at astrogarden.proboards.com/thread/2802/11th-harmonic-aspects clarifies the likely meaning of the 11th Harmonic aspect, I cannot yet see how to interpret them in the context of my own natal chart. So, this thread is my "thinking out loud" attempt to identify a reliable mechanism for doing that - and very much an experimental work-in-progress for me.
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Post by t5 on Apr 27, 2022 7:54:07 GMT
As a starting point ... it seems to me (as a fan of Astrological Psychology) that the first step might be to analyse, interpret and synthesise the planetary picture in each of the two charts ... using "Aspect Pattern Astrology", by The Hubers :-
1. The figure in the 11H chart is a combination of a Sun-Moon-Saturn "Efficiency Triangle" + a Moon-Mars-Pluto-Sun "Magic Cap" + a Mars-Saturn-Pluto "Search" triangle.
a.) The Efficiency Triangle is also known as the Achievement Triangle and the T-square. It indicates someone who strives to achieve their goals as fast as possible. Energy is stored/bottled-up in the opposition, and discharged along the two squares to the apex planet/Moon - where the achievement is produced. However, failure to achieve leads to rigidity; inability to change and making the same mistakes repeatedly. In my 11H chart Efficiency Triangle, the hard planets (Sun/father + Saturn/mother) are driving a soft planet (Moon/child/me) ... so, failure to achieve is likely (because the nature of the child conflicts with the ambitions of the parents). Hence, childhood conditioning had to be overcome before my true needs/desires could be achieved.
b.) The Magic Cap enables me to gather/"pick-up" information subconsciously/effortlessly from people around me ... but this includes emotions/feelings that result in me defending others when it is not in my own interests to do so. Hence, I have been denied several career promotions due to (undiplomatically/inappropriately) raising concerns with my managers.
c.) In my case, the Search Triangle produces a constant striving to achieve the objectives of Mars (and a mounting dissatisfaction with the status quo). However, since there are only blue aspects to this 11H chart Mars, the drive/ambition is not there to be an active catalyst for change. ... So, a moaner/complainer rather than an activist.
2. The 5-sided "security-seeking" figure in the natal chart has 2 of it's 3 red/"action" aspects enclosed by by blue/"pleasure" aspects. So, those who know me well in the outside world will see me as "mild-mannered, until he climbs onto his Sun-Saturn soapbox". However, the 12th house hidden-enemy-within ensures that anyone meeting me for the first time (strangers at the Ascendant) will see only the Sun-Saturn trait.
3. The natal chart enables us to see how and where this 11H behaviour will manifest. The idealistic Sagittarius Mars + intense Scorpio Sun in the 3rd house of communications : the over-protective Cancer Moon in 10th house of career and the perfectionist Virgo Saturn + overbearing Leo Pluto in 11th house of group activities. ... And my career was indeed where I threw caution to the wind - riding in like a knight on a white charger, to intensely champion the cause of those (whom I perceived as having been) unfairly treated by managers/employers.
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Post by t5 on Apr 28, 2022 9:53:19 GMT
In his book, The Spirit of Numbers, David Hamblin examines the charts of a sample of people with strong Elevenness patterns and concludes that "they all share a kind of dogged persistence and resilience. They knew what was important in their lives, and they stuck to it resolutely and unswervingly. This goes with a certain 'apartness' from the rest of society, a tendency to be aloof and demanding in one's dealings with other people, and tendency to be seen as a loner and an outsider. There is a tendency also towards depression, which is manifest in many of these cases and may well be present (though hidden) in others."
Thus, he suggested "defiance and dogged persistence" as a working definition for the 11H aspect (and the meaning of 11H charts). So, the configuration in my 11H chart relates ONLY to that specific behavioural trait (of being defiant and doggedly persistent) - for which David Hamblin gave Donald Trump + Winston Churchill as examples. ... And it (therefore) seems to me that the 11H behavioural trait is perhaps the kind of "bull-headed, listen to no-one" tendency which both DT and WC are renowned for displaying.
Hence, step 2 of this thread requires me to look at the activation (by progressions + transits) of my 5-planet 11H configuration ... and ascertain if these were indeed periods when I displayed (or failed to display) "bull-headed, listen to no-one" behaviour.
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Post by t5 on Apr 28, 2022 14:49:53 GMT
In my 5-planet 11H configuration, Saturn is the key component; transformational Pluto is likely to have the most impact-by-transit upon it and Moon + Sun will probably have the most impact-by-progression. ... So, looking at transit Pluto to NATAL CHART Saturn :-
This consisted of several passes from September 1959 to July 1961 ... which was my final year in a UK primary school and first year in a UK comprehensive school (known now as Year 6 and Year 7, when students/pupils are 10/11 and 11/12 years old). Historically, in 1959/60 all UK children sat a compulsory examination (known as the 11-plus) in year 6 ... and the results from that determined whether the child would attend a Grammar School or a Secondary School from year 7 onwards. In Grammar schools, the teaching focused upon preparing students for a white-collar upper-middle-class professional career ... and the focus in Secondary schools was upon preparing pupils for blue-collar lower-middle-class supervisor careers OR/AND hands-on working-class occupations. So this Education Streaming System ensured that every child in the UK knew (from age 10/11) which social-class he/she would be a member of for the rest of his/her life.
[Note : The second paragraph above just provides the background against which the "Transit Pluto to Natal Saturn" needs to be seen. The edit below relates to the actual event created by that transit.]
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In September 1959, all Year 6 pupils at my primary school sat a mock 11-plus examination. My working-class parents were subsequently informed that the results indicated their proud-to-be-working-class-son might pass the real examination, and be attending a Grammar School in Year 7. However, the parents of only 1 of my many working-class friends at primary school were similarly advised ... and neither he nor I wanted to be parted from the others. Hence, although my parents + teachers urged me to "grasp this rare opportunity, if it arose", I steadfastly refused to listen to them - and bull-headedly pointed out that "the 11-plus might be a difficult examination to pass, but ensuring that I fail will be easy".
This was the first time in my life that I chose to "not please others/those-in-authority" ... thus beginning a very difficult two year period of separating from the herd/childhood-conditioning, which was underlined on 7th April 1961, when my (supportive and much-loved) grandmother was killed in a road accident.
[Note : Fortunately, after failing the 11-plus, I (and all my working-class friends) actually became Year 7 students at a new type of UK School ... one of only two experimental Comprehensive Schools - where the pupils were a mixture of those who had, and those who had not, passed the 11-plus examination. ... So,(ultimately) my bull-headed refusal to listen to others did not prevent me from entering a white-collar, upper-middle-class professional career - or to lose contact with my working class roots and many friends. ... It simply enabled me to move beyond my childhood conditioning.]
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Post by t5 on Apr 29, 2022 8:21:52 GMT
Progressed Moon was conjunct my Natal Saturn from 25th November 1952 to 17thJanuary 1953 ... when I was 4 years old, and had started my first year at school in September 1952. ... Here, the event was a friend and I knocking over a jar of varnish in the classroom storeroom during breaktime - where we should not have been, and no-one else was around to see/know we had done so. After the break, we told our teacher what we had done ... and she replied with "ok", so we assumed that was the end of the matter. Later though, she went into the storeroom and saw the mixture of broken glass + varnish, that we had not cleaned up and was now hardened to a point where it was "a permanent feature of the floor". Understandably angry, she then punished us - which I considered to be unfair (as she had already told us it was ok). So, at the next break, I walked out of the school; went home and steadfastly refused to go back unless the teacher apologised. It then took a few weeks for my father to arrange for that to happen but, because it did, I "learned" to always challenge those whom (in my opinion) abuse their positions of authority.
However, when Progressed Sun was conjunct Natal Saturn (September 1955 to September 1957), I was very much a model-pupil ... conforming completely with the UK Education System's various mechanisms that turn children into over-achieving adults. And of course, those two school years of over-achieving subsequently produced "a working-class child who might pass the 11-plus examination".
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