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Post by Ava on Apr 8, 2018 14:15:17 GMT
Anything goes! Favorite products....routines....obsessions, anyone? To start, here's something I've been wondering about: The Skin Care Ingredients You Shouldn’t Mix theklog.co/skincare-ingredients-to-avoid-mixing/1. Retinol and chemical exfoliants like AHA and BHA 2. Vitamin C and acidic ingredients, like glycolic or salicylic acid 3. Acne treaments like benzoyl peroxide and chemical exfoliants
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 15:09:36 GMT
Oh man this is a thrilling post for me. I'm no dermatologist but I really do enjoy learning what I can about skin care and the new discoveries people are making in this field. The past year alone I've done a major overhaul on my primary products and the difference it's made on my skin's luminosity/texture is pretty wild. One thing I've been doing differently is laying moisturizers on top of each other - even during the day! This seems so counter-intuitive because I'm someone with VERY oily skin and I've suffered from acne since I was 13, but leaving the skin to "dry out" (as I did so often as a teenager) causes the skin to overproduce oil in order to compensate for its lack, which is why acne tends to get worse is one isn't stacking moisture on top of their skin. I'll start off with a light oil and rub it in (everywhere) in a circular motion (moving to the jawline and the neck), and then I'll use an all purpose moisturizer on top of that. I use a gel moisturizer (as opposed to a cream) for my eye area - apparently the heavy density of cream moisturizer weighs the light skin of the eye area down and deepens the fine lines in this area. I've noticed a huge difference once I started using a gel. I've moved away from using an astringent as a makeup remover and got a water-based one. My skin LOVES me for this move. There's something so satisfying about feeling that acidic burning singe once an astringent hits your skin though.. trying to get out of that mentality. If my skin feels harsh I'll mist it over with a rose water spray or a witch hazel spray. That gives it a nice dewy glow upon impact. I'm also trying to move away from full coverage foundations/concealers. For the past five years I stopped using powders in my makeup routine which is a MIRACLE for me - I was the powder queen as a teen/in my early 20s. Again that pathological stigma in suppressing the visual of my oily skin. If you have good skin, you don't need to douse yourself in heavy foundation/concealer as much anymore. I can almost see the unnatural, mask-like state my face looks in when I wear heavy makeup for a night out now. It's jarring. I have very gingerly been dipping my toes into chemical exfoliates after reading how physical exfoliates are one of the worst things you can use on your skin. I've been learning about AHAs/PHAs/BHAs slowly but surely. Glossier has a chemical exfoliate out which has very, very tiny amounts of each (all equal to about 10% together) and that's been an excellent experience, using that product. Its like the nest of blackheads buried underneath the thin layer of my skin have all but vanished after months of using that about 3-4 times a week. I do try to avoid vitamin-c based oils on the nights I whip out that bad boy. I'll use a squalane oil instead. Earlier in the week I was reading about how petroleum-based lip "balms" do nothing to moisturize your lips. Because petroleum is a sealant, it's "locking in" the dryness of your skin, but one can only feel the soft, initial greasiness that feels like there's moisture in your lips that all but disappears once the balm gets wiped off your lips. I bought some jojoba oil at the drug store and now I just use that to moisturize my lips, and then I'll seal it in with a petroleum-based balm. I'm going to try and move away from that style of balm and just go for a vaseline-based one instead. I find myself drawn to oxygen facials/infared saunas/IPL facials.. wondering about the effect that one have on my skin. Something to consider in the future
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Post by Ava on Apr 8, 2018 16:41:27 GMT
Oh wow, THANK YOU athena! Be back to chat more, I'm already learning from you --- "I have very gingerly been dipping my toes into chemical exfoliates after reading how physical exfoliates are one of the worst things you can use on your skin." Oh WOW...I didn't know this. Will research!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 21:28:27 GMT
It's crazy! I grew up using that St. Ives apricot scrub and now the company is getting sued because the little walnut shells that they have in there as an "exfoliate" actually causes micro tears in the skin There are a few articles I've familiar with that have talked about the perks of chemical exfoliates.. Are Face Scrubs Bad For Your Skin? Physical vs. Chemical Exfoliates Exfoliating MistakesI know some of those sources aren't exactly Web MD but all of them do interview several dermatologists in them!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 21:34:41 GMT
I remember my grandmother using this soap and water on her face. Not sure if the ingredients have changed. She had very clear skin, though she didnt wear makeup either. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifebuoy_(soap)pls dnt quote
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Post by Ava on Apr 9, 2018 20:55:05 GMT
It's crazy! I grew up using that St. Ives apricot scrub and now the company is getting sued because the little walnut shells that they have in there as an "exfoliate" actually causes micro tears in the skin There are a few articles I've familiar with that have talked about the perks of chemical exfoliates.. Are Face Scrubs Bad For Your Skin? Going through this methodically, because I feel like I *need* physical exfoliation. I'd have to go to a dermatologist to get a name for the problem, but it's just that my skin overproduces skin or something. There is always a layer of skin that needs to go. From this article I quoted above: LOL, that's my sentiment, I am really attached to my scrubs. I just found the perfect one recently: SMELLS SO GOOD and leaves my skin really soft. I bought three tubes of this when it was on sale, so I am invested in scrubs, literally. Anyway, I have to keep reading because I am wondering if anyone addresses this possible elephant in the room: dermarolling. That deliberately creates micropunctures in the skin, supposedly to stimulate collagen production, and help products permeate to the deeper layers (not sure why that's so desirable, but as an all-around extremist, with sun square Jupiter, I think total saturation sounds like a good idea.) If micropunctures are good, why are microtears bad? Maybe it's a hygiene thing, where the dermaroller must be sterilized, but the walnut shells of St. Ives aren't? I need to keep reading...
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Post by Ava on Apr 9, 2018 21:02:19 GMT
vg I love simplicity like that, where a person can rely on one basic product, and achieve amazing results. I also love vintage cosmetics and now I'm super curious about what that soap smelled like, when it contained phenol. My favorite face soap contains camphor...another old-fashioned kind of smell. I think I am legitimately addicted to the smell of this. I don't even care too much what it's doing to my face. I just crave the smell so much, and love using it.... I apply it with a silicone face scrubber, another frivolous beauty item that I adore.
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Post by Ava on Apr 10, 2018 13:04:36 GMT
That's a great article -- I do use glycolic acid (AHA) but I believe I'm allergic to salicylic acid (BHA) which is a real bummer. Yikes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 15:09:17 GMT
I do remember the bar having a strong smell, not like a fragrance but not unpleasant either. I guess it was like the detergent smell when you hang your washing up lol. I'm starting to feel my age now lol.
I used to share an apartment with a woman that used dermalogica products on her face, she was very good with her routine. She did wear a tonne of makeup but always washed it off at night. Her skin was flawless. I went to a beautician once and they gave me a facial using this stuff, i have to say it was nice and i didnt look as tired. Though I do think this stuff is expensive.
I have combination skin type on my face and I use a clay mask couple of times a week. I do think work also comes from within too - my skin feels nicer when i drink more water, less caffeine and eat tomato based things, or strawberries.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 15:54:34 GMT
Ava I think it is VERY Capricorn to enjoy the physical sensation of grinding away at something depleted, obsolete, in order to unearth the immediate rewards of something fresher, new, and radiant Just like the articles say, not all scrubs are created equal and there are plenty of great ones out there for skin to enjoy. I don't know why but I just adore chemical exfoliates so much. It's a slow churn and less immediately satisfying, I will say that much. I think dermarolling is a little bit more decent for the skin exactly for the rests you list - not to mention that the punctures are more mathematically uniform, and you have the hand of a professional knowing exactly what pressure to use in certain places. I believe it punctures the upper dermis *just so* in order to stimulate collagen growth Dry brushing the body is something I've always wanted to try, it just seems like such a process (and slightly gross?) which is why I've been hesitating on that move for years
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Post by Ava on Apr 13, 2018 13:58:35 GMT
vg Clay masks! I love them. Bentonite clay powder, activated charcoal, apple cider vinegar and some water. Shrink-wraps the face and makes it throb. I ought to apply this mask more often, because it really noticeably smooths my skin. athena "I think it is VERY Capricorn to enjoy the physical sensation of grinding away at something depleted, obsolete, in order to unearth the immediate rewards of something fresher, new, and radiant..." That is so perceptive and so true! It's like archaeology. hehehe One of the articles you posted talks about how men's skin typically doesn't age as fast as women's, because shaving exfoliates their skin so well. I don't shave my face (yet) but this observation helped me feel better about one habit I've got, scratching my face with my fingernails in the shower, once the steam loosens the top layer of skin. I could use the exfoliating scrub I posted above, but even that leaves a residue. And basically yeah, I like scrubbing everything excessively. I skin brush before a shower, use a silicone brush in the shower (how did I ever live without one?). Problem is, I typically have broken blood vessels from going overboard...something that needs to be fixed psychologically I guess. lol "I believe it punctures the upper dermis *just so* in order to stimulate collagen growth" Hope so! When I was younger I couldn't understand why older women even cared so much about preserving their youth. I'd think, "They're not kidding anyone, it's obvious they're older." Now I see it as preserving MYSELF. Aging can be disorienting because it's a form of changing. "Hey, that's not ME, the person with the marionette lines!" To me anti-aging efforts are about self-preservation, not so much about impressing anyone. "I'll use a squalane oil instead." I need to research that. "I bought some jojoba oil at the drug store and now I just use that to moisturize my lips, and then I'll seal it in with a petroleum-based balm." I love jojoba oil and need to purchase a fresh bottle. I believe it helps shrink my pores; I did a month-long experiment where I used jojoba oil on one side of my face, argan oil on the other. Of course it might be different for everyone, but jojoba was definitely giving me better skin. Anyway I am addicted to EOS lip balm, I've tried so many others, but that's really still my favorite. It doesn't guarantee me soft lips, however. I wonder if jojoba would help me out. Also I keep meaning to make my own lip scrub. Which brings this post full-circle because that's just another thing to scrub.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Apr 13, 2018 21:48:37 GMT
I love jojoba oil and need to purchase a fresh bottle. I believe it helps shrink my pores; I did a month-long experiment where I used jojoba oil on one side of my face, argan oil on the other. Of course it might be different for everyone, but jojoba was definitely giving me better skin. Cool experiment! And yeah, that might be because jojoba oil is similar to the oils (sebum?) naturally secreted by skin...
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Apr 13, 2018 21:55:50 GMT
If my skin feels harsh I'll mist it over with a rose water spray or a witch hazel spray. That gives it a nice dewy glow upon impact. That sounds refreshing! Might help combat the summer blues.
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Post by FruityLlama on Apr 16, 2018 13:46:16 GMT
I used to use Dt Ives too athena !! I absolutely lived the exfoliation- i didnt realise they were getting sued for that!!! I thought its because the micro beads arent environmentally friendly... I worship anything with salicylic acid in it. Sometimes I mix green tea leaves with honey too if im feeling particularly holistic hehe
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Post by anela on May 2, 2018 18:48:26 GMT
I'm going to try squalene? I bought a day and night cream from Garnier, and am trying to remember to use them. I need to find my emu oil.
I used to use St Ive's collagen elastin moisturizer. I couldn't for years, later on, because it made my eyes water, and my skin break out. I still use it at times, when I remember.
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Post by anela on May 2, 2018 18:52:03 GMT
I do remember the bar having a strong smell, not like a fragrance but not unpleasant either. I guess it was like the detergent smell when you hang your washing up lol. I'm starting to feel my age now lol. I used to share an apartment with a woman that used dermalogica products on her face, she was very good with her routine. She did wear a tonne of makeup but always washed it off at night. Her skin was flawless. I went to a beautician once and they gave me a facial using this stuff, i have to say it was nice and i didnt look as tired. Though I do think this stuff is expensive. I have combination skin type on my face and I use a clay mask couple of times a week. I do think work also comes from within too - my skin feels nicer when i drink more water, less caffeine and eat tomato based things, or strawberries. Pls dnt quote I bought a clay mask last October, but keep forgetting to use it. Aztec clay that you mix with ACV.
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Post by anela on May 2, 2018 18:53:48 GMT
Ava I think it is VERY Capricorn to enjoy the physical sensation of grinding away at something depleted, obsolete, in order to unearth the immediate rewards of something fresher, new, and radiant Just like the articles say, not all scrubs are created equal and there are plenty of great ones out there for skin to enjoy. I don't know why but I just adore chemical exfoliates so much. It's a slow churn and less immediately satisfying, I will say that much. I think dermarolling is a little bit more decent for the skin exactly for the rests you list - not to mention that the punctures are more mathematically uniform, and you have the hand of a professional knowing exactly what pressure to use in certain places. I believe it punctures the upper dermis *just so* in order to stimulate collagen growth Dry brushing the body is something I've always wanted to try, it just seems like such a process (and slightly gross?) which is why I've been hesitating on that move for years I used to love using scrubs, but I'm wary of it now - just as wary as I am of chemical peels. I bought these pads that you wipe over your face, but have spread them out over the past four months, instead of using them every night, because of the need to use at least 30 SPF when you use them.
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Post by Ava on May 5, 2018 1:31:42 GMT
I love jojoba oil and need to purchase a fresh bottle. I believe it helps shrink my pores; I did a month-long experiment where I used jojoba oil on one side of my face, argan oil on the other. Of course it might be different for everyone, but jojoba was definitely giving me better skin. Cool experiment! And yeah, that might be because jojoba oil is similar to the oils (sebum?) naturally secreted by skin... I had forgotten that! Good point 👍 Dr. Axe recommends geranium oil added in with jojoba. His recipe is for older folks.... @ 0:56 5 drops geranium oil 1 Tablespoon jojoba So I use this on my face, and my pores have shrunk again....might just be a coincidence, as I'm doing other things at the same time. But I think it really is the jojoba.
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Post by Ava on May 15, 2018 19:41:11 GMT
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 19, 2018 13:24:14 GMT
I used to love this in-shower body lotion by Nivea. Haven't had it in a while, but it might be time for a comback! Comes in a few different 'flavours'. I remember I was reluctant to buy it at first, coz it seems so gimmicky. But it actually works (well, for me it does). And I ended up using much less moisturiser afterwards. I don't really use much except moisturisers. So I wasn't looking to get rid of them. But I tend towards 'less is more'. So if I could cut down on anything, that's always welcome. I like that it leaves my skin soft without feeling greasy.
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