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Post by Ava on May 12, 2020 21:26:34 GMT
*still reading* I like the idea of considering Jupiter as dispositor...maybe it does give clues to how the moon will function? But I think I have my personality more compartmentalized, so the Pisces moon does its thing (hides/sulks/cries), while my more energetic side functions its own way (my Aries Jupiter at full throttle feels nothing like a Pisces moon). Violets , I've been musing about what you said, relative to people expressing their pain. Can't think of a reply except to say that I think often a lot of other cues and baggage can come through when a person is being emotional. There's a way to talk about dark chapters on our lives without hitting a wrong note, I think? I mean, the woman who used to cut my hair came from a hellish background, but she was so matter-of-fact about it. She said her boss actually instructed her to not talk about her past with customers....I don't get that. She has no other story to tell, and it's not like she's asking for anything. But maybe that's just me. I liked her tone of voice and the fact that she was moving on. I've been blamed for being too stoic and too much of a vault, so I've tried with those same people to open up, and then I get feedback like, "Why did you say that??" and I think "Yep, should have trusted my first instinct."
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 12, 2020 21:31:47 GMT
^ Re: Jupiter I don't think Jupiter ruling Pisces is the same as Jupiter ruling Sag, though. Sort of like Venus ruling both Taurus and Libra. It's almost like Venus Rx vs Venus direct. IMO, Jupiter ruling Pisces feels like Jupiter Rx more so than Jupiter direct(?) Or a slower, more deliberate version. They internalize more and chew on their beliefs for much longer.
Just my impression, though; from the Pisces-influenced people I've known.
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Post by Ava on May 12, 2020 21:48:56 GMT
It gets really complicated for me, because Jupiter disposits both the Pisces moon and Sag Neptune (which are square to each other)...putting direct and Rx energies in the blender?
But you know, that makes sense...because it actually doesn't? I'm someone who can bellyache about the Catholic Church until I'm blue in the face and then settle down by listening to old Catholic hymns.
And it doesn't even seem crazy to me, in my own mind. It's just how I've turned out.
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Post by Violets on May 13, 2020 0:49:02 GMT
So I just realized something very obvious, lol. Pisces folks really are very sensitive; we’re blunt and abrupt but our own feelings are very touchy. So of course any sort of display of vulnerability leaves us wide open to pain, and we’re not trying to have that. Probably why we are also pretty private with a lot of things, even if we seem talkative. Being knifed emotionally too many times by people who either used our vulnerabilities against us, or when they shared theirs they inadvertently dragged us into that place of becoming emotionally invested in someone else’s problems, drama, etc. Yeah, definitely better for Pisces folks to do our compassion from a distance, lol. Ava I agree with you, there are ways to talk about things that hurt without being overwhelming. I mean, it’s okay to fall apart sometimes, of course. But generally speaking, yeah I prefer the matter-of-fact delivery.
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Post by Violets on May 13, 2020 0:53:39 GMT
I mean, don’t get me wrong...I have a couple of lifelong friends I love, who love me, and we can be open with each other. One of those friends came to my rescue a year ago when I agreed to have our friends’ two young, nonverbal children stay with us (they’re asd) while their parents had a baby. I was SO incredibly overwhelmed, so her and her daughter came over and just hung out; I felt they might have better insight or at least be present, as I had four boys to take care of for a day and night, and was really in over my head, lol. Anyway, Pisces stuff in action. 😂
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Post by anela on May 13, 2020 17:53:14 GMT
*still reading* I like the idea of considering Jupiter as dispositor...maybe it does give clues to how the moon will function? But I think I have my personality more compartmentalized, so the Pisces moon does its thing (hides/sulks/cries), while my more energetic side functions its own way (my Aries Jupiter at full throttle feels nothing like a Pisces moon). Violets , I've been musing about what you said, relative to people expressing their pain. Can't think of a reply except to say that I think often a lot of other cues and baggage can come through when a person is being emotional. There's a way to talk about dark chapters on our lives without hitting a wrong note, I think? I mean, the woman who used to cut my hair came from a hellish background, but she was so matter-of-fact about it. She said her boss actually instructed her to not talk about her past with customers....I don't get that. She has no other story to tell, and it's not like she's asking for anything. But maybe that's just me. I liked her tone of voice and the fact that she was moving on. I've been blamed for being too stoic and too much of a vault, so I've tried with those same people to open up, and then I get feedback like, "Why did you say that??" and I think "Yep, should have trusted my first instinct." This has happened to me, too. I remember a girl encouraging everyone to just speak their minds, all the time. I thought to myself, "That's easy to say when you're extremely popular, and don't seem to bother anyone, no matter what you say." I kept everything zipped, didn't vent about anything. My closest friend didn't know what was going on with me. I'm actually feeling that way again right now. Just wanting to keep it all in. I don't think I'm ever going to feel 100% comfortable with anyone.
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Post by Violets on May 14, 2020 4:25:03 GMT
Apparently, my new and improved method of yelling my political opinion is as follows: “EVERYBODY CALM DOWN AND BE OBJECTIVE, DAMMIT!” 😂
These are trying times, okay... 😬😅
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Post by anela on May 15, 2020 16:06:38 GMT
My entire issue with a few people on the other site, was that they weren't being objective. A moderator actually shut down a thread, because he said that misinformation was being spread, and it wasn't safe. A few weeks later, he used another thread, with the starter of the previous one, to further the hoax agenda. They posted a viral video as fact, and said that our rights are being violated. A pandemic was put down to mass hysteria.
I'm in the middle when it comes to *a lot*. I'm iffy on vaccines, but vaccinate for things like rabies. I've been too far into allopathic methods of medicine, and too far in the opposite direction (not depending enough on it). My mother raised me to think for myself (she gave me the book "This Perfect Day" as a reminder to do just that), so it bugs me when people pushing their own agendas that seem to have been fed to them (they take conspiracy theories as gospel), say that I'm not a critical thinker. And then, when I point out facts, I'm called "negative" and ignored, by someone I thought was a friend. Just because I don't go along with what she wants. I don't pull that crap on people, but I run into it every so often.
Mars in Pisces, ruling my Sun. Uranus all over my chart.
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Post by Violets on May 15, 2020 18:36:32 GMT
Saturn and Uranus are both hitting my natal Uranus/Mars square right now, lol. I think that’s the configuration, anyway. It’s hard to keep track of multiple outer planet transits sometimes.
I’m blurting a lot lately. 😬
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Post by Ava on May 15, 2020 22:19:45 GMT
^ I basically feel like the world is going to hell in a handbasket so some of my usual caution is gone. (As always, freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.) Weirdly I kind of enjoy feeling scared, I mean terrified, as it's such a wake up call to LIVE and not take things for granted. While I was edgy, flooded with panic last night, I thought of this thread and how my moon "wakes up" when it's an 8th house type of circumstance. I feel like I was built for doomsday.
Another thing. I'm realizing I really do not have a good track record with people born on the Aqua-Pisces Cusp, especially on the Pisces side. Usually we get along at first but then it falls off a cliff and splatters. (Not always, but usually.) Well my progressed sun is there now and I seem to meet these people left and right. It's like an invitation from the Universe to take a good look at myself. Think about what I am thinking.
So today I was in a funk at work, alone with my thoughts, and realized my mind was being hypercritical, not understanding why certain people do certain things, and realizing "hate" should come back into my vocabulary now, after I tried to retire it for years...I just HATE some people...and I realized that I think this cusp might just have hatred embedded in it somewhere, for some reason. (Just a theory.)
Then I thought maybe Pisces can be critical of people for emotional irregularities or shortcomings the way Virgo is critical for physical or intellectual shortcomings.
Pls don't quote
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Post by Violets on May 15, 2020 22:58:02 GMT
Ava jeez, lol. I’m over here February Pisces like “Uh...I hope you don’t hate me...” 😬😂 I don’t know many people outright on that cusp, but I’ve noticed that February Pisces tend to be a little angrier than March Pisces?
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Post by Ava on May 15, 2020 23:05:48 GMT
so it bugs me when people pushing their own agendas that seem to have been fed to them (they take conspiracy theories as gospel), say that I'm not a critical thinker Randall and jwhop? As if they are critical thinkers....can't help giggling at the thought. ....Seriously that is good humor right there.
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Post by Ava on May 15, 2020 23:11:05 GMT
Ava jeez, lol. I’m over here February Pisces like “Uh...I hope you don’t hate me...” 😬😂 I don’t know many people outright on that cusp, but I’ve noticed that February Pisces tend to be a little angrier than March Pisces? Oh not at all! Never. <3 I don't consider your birthday the cusp. And I do like at least one other cusp person (off the top of my head.) Philosophically I think hatred is a sign of weakness; why stoke that flame when you could be doing something better? But I feel more critical lately and this came to mind as one possible factor: my pr sun on that cusp.
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Post by anela on May 15, 2020 23:22:38 GMT
so it bugs me when people pushing their own agendas that seem to have been fed to them (they take conspiracy theories as gospel), say that I'm not a critical thinker Randall and jwhop? As if they are critical thinkers....can't help giggling at the thought. ....Seriously that is good humor right there. Haha! Not them, actually - people I usually don't mind. Just a few, and one possibly former friend, who a few weeks ago, said that we have good karma (because I still spoke to her, after one exchange that wasn't good). I'm the one who has to back down, see? I used to be the one to let things go, but if I'm not allowed my own feelings on something, and I'm cut off because I think for myself? That's not a friendship. That's someone who just needs to be right. I like to build - and maintain - bridges, if possible. I do "peace offerings" but I'm not feeling it so much right now. I'm more critical, too.
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Post by anela on May 15, 2020 23:24:59 GMT
Ava jeez, lol. I’m over here February Pisces like “Uh...I hope you don’t hate me...” 😬😂 I feel that way about my Mars being conjunct your Sun.
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Post by Violets on May 16, 2020 4:29:15 GMT
Lol. I’ve been more critical lately too, although I’m generally too critical. I think I’ve just become more aware of it lately?
I feel like Otto in “A Fish Called Wanda”, when he’s trying to apologize to John Cleese, ha. Like “I’m just trying to cut to the point—OMG, I hurt your feelings. I’m sorry! I’m sorry...but dammit, wtf, why would you do that...?! Oh no, dammit I did it again I’m sorry!” 🤦🏻♀️
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