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Post by anela on Nov 8, 2019 19:14:03 GMT
Right, exactly.. Maybe that's how Sun-Mars people relate? (Synastry or natal). Or maybe it's Pluto as well...
Indifference hurts way more than anger. I'm the same. It is oddly reassuring that someone cares enough to get mad.
I agree, although I don't like it when someone seems to enjoy getting me annoyed. Indifference is definitely worse, though.
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Post by anela on Nov 8, 2019 19:15:55 GMT
Another ex has his Taurus Mars trine my sun, and he told me about an Aries girlfriend he'd fought with so hard that they were breaking dishes, and he said he LOVED that, the passion of it, and I thought, "Well that's idiotic" but I didn't say it out loud. But I don't get it. To me love is better without noise, broken stuff, whatever. Thank God again for my Sag Venus. Would rather be in a hot air balloon looking at geese with binoculars or something. Yes, me too!
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Post by anela on Nov 8, 2019 19:19:35 GMT
Right, exactly.. Maybe that's how Sun-Mars people relate? (Synastry or natal). Or maybe it's Pluto as well...
Indifference hurts way more than anger. I'm the same. It is oddly reassuring that someone cares enough to get mad.
I agree....I mean a person can still express beautiful sentiments like "I appreciate you and that's why I want you in my life so badly" in the undercurrent of a tirade.... H stood me up three times. The first time is the fury incident I alluded to above. The second time I simply confronted him calmly and made it known that I was in pain but this was more like "I feel victimized about this" which nobody has time for, sadly enough. Third time I just left, period. End of story. Every time he starts to blame me for that ending and 20 years of silence I have said, "You stood me up." To me it does explain everything. Who the hell stands people up? I hate that. Sorry for quoting, since you're a moderator, you can edit my post if you want it out of there, but this reminds me of when SV asked me if I was really a Gemini Moon, over at the other place. She asked, because I said I would never let something go. My response was that lying about me is never okay. When someone lied about me, and not just that, but could have stopped something in its tracks, either before it happened, or once it did, and they let it go on? They let that much drama happen, and almost lost me friends, because it worked in their favour? That will Never, ever be okay. I don't care if it was "just online". S did that when we were first talking again. "I know women expect men to read their minds" as he proceeded to blame me once again, for something, when he knew better.
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Post by Ava on Nov 8, 2019 22:24:11 GMT
^ Maybe it's our fixed ASCs anela? Or just, I don't know, common sense.
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Post by lumina on Nov 9, 2019 15:37:43 GMT
^ Maybe it's our fixed ASCs anela ? Or just, I don't know, common sense. And a good survival instinct. Well I want to make it very clear, I loathe real fights, esp. in a relationship, what I was alluding to was more some kind of playful banter. Real fights that get physical and are resulting in breaking things (or in worse cases even bones - yeah it is drastic, but it does happen, we all have read about it I guess), or that are applying manipulative means to get their way by basically putting down the other person in any kind of way, are dangerous, toxic and signs of abuse, and not love! And yes, that is common sense I think. And honestly speaking even if someone should just do so much as to raise their voice in earnest against me, my probably reaction would probably be to turn around and walk out of the door. On the other hand if someone just challenges me, but on the basis of mutual trust and respect, I am probably more inclined to accept the challenge and enter into some sort of banter or measuring of individual strength or mental exchange. That is something I actually find quite attractive, someone who is able to push my buttons in a way so that I am pushed to expand my horizon and get out of my comfortzone and see what I can do, that I was not aware I am able to. But I suppose those are two different kinds of "fights"
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 9, 2019 15:44:36 GMT
Yeah, that's a very healthy perspective, lumina . Some of us just have to work to get to that mindset because of our issues. But it's worth breaking out of old patterns to discover how much the world has to offer.
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Post by Ava on Nov 9, 2019 18:14:59 GMT
^ I don't trust anybody, not the way I used to. I mean, I trust my friends, but I also feel that part of loving my friends means, I'm open to surprises and open to them being themselves and even leaving me behind if that's what they need to do...
I think I believe in everyone's right to privacy. I feel like my privacy has been infringed upon too much in this life...maybe I invite it somehow with my Pisces moon boundary issues, people sometimes don't know when to quit. I've had too much monopolization of my inner processes. I can imagine being interrogated like, "What are you thinking?!" and being accused of thought crimes.
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Post by lumina on Nov 9, 2019 18:19:55 GMT
Avayou totally should be having this freedom of telling your story, living it, and even having the choice of staying or walking away, and not being made feel bad about that. What is a "wife" btw? I do not believe there is some sort of rulebook that you HAVE to fulfill to be a good wife. And no two relationships are the same anyway, so every has to find their way pretty much on their own I think? Not sure, I mean I am talking about things I have not really anything to say about. lol
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 10, 2019 0:03:46 GMT
@blindlion - Yeah, bad squares to Pluto take the cake. Especially Mars square Pluto in composite. I suppose synastry as well, except the roles would only go one way. I think in composite, neither party will stand down even for a minute. Of course, they can be lovely people without an egotistical bone in their body, blah blah. But their resolve to be kind, patient and understanding flies out the window while dealing with each other (or is severely tested at least).
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Post by Ava on Nov 10, 2019 10:37:30 GMT
What is a "wife" btw? I do not believe there is some sort of rulebook that you HAVE to fulfill to be a good wife. Thanks for your comment lumina. Well my Juno is in Virgo. There is a rulebook. Everything should be perfect.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 10, 2019 19:35:55 GMT
^ Oh, I just realized my Juno is widely trine yours, then. Wide for asteroids, that is.. This is one asteroid I have no trouble recognizing in myself. Most Juno in Cappy descriptions seem to fit.
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Post by lumina on Nov 10, 2019 21:32:43 GMT
What is a "wife" btw? I do not believe there is some sort of rulebook that you HAVE to fulfill to be a good wife. Thanks for your comment lumina. Well my Juno is in Virgo. There is a rulebook. Everything should be perfect. But what is perfection? I guess my Juno in Pisces can`t grasp this.
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Post by Ava on Mar 1, 2020 3:19:25 GMT
Okay I will illustrate perfection!
Today my ex-coworker E (mentioned somewhere in here...his Virgo Venus-Mars trine my sun) saw that I was about to lift something heavy. In the past he would often move heavy things for me, without being asked. So today he was just walking by my department and offered to lift this, I said "No thanks, I have to build muscle." He said that's fair enough but stood there waiting to help. A second later the manager came up and told me not to lift it, so before I could speak he just picked it up and moved it for me. I did want to say "I love you. Not romantically. I just freaking LOVE YOU." That would be weird but I have heard another coworker say something similar.
Pls don't quote, just saying this on a whim
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