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Post by lumina on Oct 14, 2019 14:06:13 GMT
Yes just curious that for me it even are the rulers of tbose signs, mars and neptune. Alpha and omega in a way
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Post by Ava on Oct 14, 2019 17:55:05 GMT
Pullen says my dominant sign is Sag. That doesn't even account for my draconic chart, where I am Sag rising.
So Jupiter is my draconic chart ruler and my draco Jupiter is conjunct my mother's tropical sun.
She and I have significant Jupiter-Chiron synastry. I wonder if that's where my own (progressed) conjunction originated?
24 Leo, her tropical sun
26 Leo, my draconic Jupiter
23 Aries, my Chiron
16 Cancer, her Chiron
16 Aries, my Jupiter
14 Sag, her draconic Chiron
17 Sag, my draconic ASC, rectified
17 Sag, transiting sun when she died
3 Virgo, my draconic Chiron
6 Virgo, my draconic MC, recitified
6 Virgo, her draconic Jupiter
And I don't even have her birth time; there could be more to this. Well there is more but I don't want to drag it out.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Oct 14, 2019 18:52:25 GMT
Pullen says my dominant sign is Sag. That doesn't even account for my draconic chart, where I am Sag rising. Oh, I didn't mean overall - I meant the flavour of each planet individually (as I spoke of in the next post).. Like lumina mentioned, the ones that are in heavy contact with some natal planet or (for me) where it may or may not be a heavy aspect but the theme is prominent...
P.S. You also have the chiron transits corresponding to her passing away?? Even without her birth time, they seem pretty close to your planets and angles..
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Post by lumina on Oct 14, 2019 19:50:00 GMT
Ava good point about Chiron on my Uranus/Pluto-mp. Though I do not think that needs to mean death in all cases. Uranus/Pluto is simply the greatest force of change, revolution, and well usually the change that hits you like an earthquake. I mean Uranus-pLuto does symbolize a nuclear explosion in mundane astrology after all. And I guess the death of loved ones esp. if you have been close and they have been part of your daily life is of course a complete uprooting of your life and leaving everything changed. Curiously enough last summer my sa Pluto was conjunct P`s n Uranus (my 12th, his 8th house). It was exactly conjunct on 23°24 Scorpio those few days when I was making the suggestion of using his fanmeeting for raising money for the good cause him and his castmembers were involved in, and me (because his colleague basically PUSHED me there) contacting him to ask if that was okay with him and also suggesting the idea with an auction (which apparently fell on fertile ground. lol) Interestingly both planets, for me Pluto, for him URanus, rule our respective 12th houses (and my 11th house actually. lol) I guess he was a bit surprised. lol I know that solar arcs have a longer timeframe where they are valid but it just amazes me how they seem to be basically exact at certain events.
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Post by Ava on Oct 14, 2019 21:06:14 GMT
Pullen says my dominant sign is Sag. That doesn't even account for my draconic chart, where I am Sag rising. Oh, I didn't mean overall - I meant the flavour of each planet individually (as I spoke of in the next post).. Like lumina mentioned, the ones that are in heavy contact with some natal planet or (for me) where it may or may not be a heavy aspect but the theme is prominent... I got it.  Like I said, I feel like I could do this for almost any planet, but sorta randomly picked Sag, just because Pullen puts it first. It's complicated... * Tropical sun is chart ruler; it is novile to Sag Venus and square draconic Venus which is exactly conjunct natal Jupiter * Draconic Jupiter is chart ruler, it's disposited by the Taurus sun that it squares. Taurus sun is conjunct natal SN, both disposited by Venus which is conjunct natal Jupiter. Like that. Jupiter rules my 5th house, my first son is a Sag, born on the anniversary of my mother's death (not planned), and his sun is conjunct my draco ASC, his Jupiter conjunct my MC. I took a nap today and vividly dreamed I was pregnant. Very happy to be awake now and not pregnant. Anyway I do believe I haven't really gotten to the bottom of this and grasped what it says about me, but with draco Jupiter widely squaring my nodes, apparently I have to watch for excess of the Taurus variety (stuff) AND the Scorpio variety (single-minded obsession), and if I nail that, maybe I will shine alone, Leo-like. A little bit of stuff, a little bit of...ahem, Scorpio. Pls don't quote |
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Post by lumina on Oct 14, 2019 21:15:14 GMT
I tbink planets that are conj or square the nodes in tropical, are possibly extra meaningful in draco as they are already gaving that strong nodal link.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Oct 14, 2019 21:43:49 GMT
Anyway I do believe I haven't really gotten to the bottom of this and grasped what it says about me Yeah, me either...and I see what you mean.. Lol @ that dream - whew, a sixth one! That's trippy, especially now, with all that's happening.. |
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Post by lumina on Oct 16, 2019 8:33:00 GMT
I took a nap today and vividly dreamed I was pregnant. Curiously, I was dreaming last night (actually woke up right after it about 5 hours ago), that I was being pregnant, too. I can`t remember that I have dreamed of being pregnant before and this was a surreal, weird dream, too, but I have dreamed before of a child, it`s always the same girl. But as I said, such an odd dream. I am not really putting too much stock into Pullen, but for what it`s worth according to him my strongest signs are Sagittarius (no surprise there), Pisces (also makes sense) and Aries (well of course my Draco chart has much Aries, but well I think he gathers this from my planets being in the 1st house, however I do not believe anymore that the houseplacements really are an exact mirror of sign energies.) Strongest planets are Jupiter, Venus, Mars and NEptune - I guess I get that, though my Mars is of course watered down by the conjunction to Neptune and being in 12th house. |
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Post by lumina on Oct 16, 2019 8:43:45 GMT
Actually I remember it was 5:59 a.m. when I woke up directly from that dream, I mean like leaving the dream in the mid of it. I might of course remember that wrongly, the time, but using that time, the event chart has
ASC 00 Libra
MC 00 Cancer (conjunct my Draco Ceres on 28 Gemini and my Draco Jupiter on 01 Cancer)
Moon 18 Taurus applying to conjunct the asteroid CHILD on 19 Taurus in my chart
in the dream I was also dreaming of some very specific Draconic placements, the Dream was very specific about it relating to the Draconic chart
14 Gemini
06 Libra
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Post by Ava on Oct 16, 2019 11:51:43 GMT
^ Ah, cool placements for dreaming of having a child lumina . My Child asteroid is @ 0 Libra, by the way. Still off topic...the spooky girl at the mall who was randomly doing readings for me and my kids asked us to hold her hands so she could tell us what kind of energy we had, relative to some ancient gods. I got Demeter (and I blurted out that I make a lot of granola), Artemis (but I don't hunt), and then after a long dramatic pause...Zeus! For that last one I just thought of my sun square Jupiter and Sag planets. And my ego. Anyway, Pullen rankings always change, or I have a specific type of memory problem called Can't-Keep-Pullen-Rankings-Straight. For me it's #1 sun, #2 Mercury, #3 Jupiter. For now. === cafeastrology.com/chironsignstables.htmlMy older siblings all have Chiron in Pisces: 14° (oldest brother), 20° (next-oldest brother), 29° (sister). Really it's just my two oldest brothers with Chiron conjunct my moon, but they are like diametric opposites. It's hard to think this has any meaning at all, their Chiron on my moon. Well, chalk it up to Pisces not making a lot of sense. |
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Post by lumina on Oct 16, 2019 19:07:32 GMT
Ava so cool about the gods/ goddesses! I wonder what god/ goddess I would be.
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Like I said, I feel like I could do this for almost any planet, but sorta randomly picked Sag, just because Pullen puts it first.