Pop Stars of the 2010's

[Karka Queen]

What do you notice about them?

Camila Cabello



Bruno Mars (Rodden Rating: C, take it with a grain of salt but this is probably accurate.)



Drake (Rodden Rating: AA, Regulus is on his Ascendant which guarantees worldly success and fame. This is amazing.)

[FruityLlama]

Are those other rings after the signs decans and duads @karkaqueen ?

I notice a water theme with these three. I will have to look closer later, but nice to know pisces is coming back into fashion. I find this sign is the best for glamour and elegance, the Venusian signs next (Cabello has a nice chart~ very watery though).

Although part of me wonders about celebrity charts. Celebrities nowadays aren't necessarily talented or intelligent, plus all the pop songs are pretty much written by the same people with or without compute algorithms that check how marketable a song will be. So when I look at a young modern day celebrity chart, I don't necessarily look for or even find indications of talent...more like gullibility!

That said, I think Cabello looks like the most creative chart here, although so much water may be inclined to literally go with the flow and do whatever crap the industry tells her to. Maybe its an unfair assumption as I've never really watched any interview or know her, but thats my two cents.

I suppose Hollywood has always molded and manipulated the stars but I feel like its almost robotic these days, like youre not even molded into a particular type of person (bar major SJW types) but more like a parrot hehe.

[Karka Queen]

Mar 15, 2018 13:31:15 GMT FruityLlama said:

Are those other rings after the signs decans and duads @karkaqueen ?

I notice a water theme with these three. I will have to look closer later, but nice to know pisces is coming back into fashion. I find this sign is the best for glamour and elegance, the Venusian signs next (Cabello has a nice chart~ very watery though).

Although part of me wonders about celebrity charts. Celebrities nowadays aren't necessarily talented or intelligent, plus all the pop songs are pretty much written by the same people with or without compute algorithms that check how marketable a song will be. So when I look at a young modern day celebrity chart, I don't necessarily look for or even find indications of talent...more like gullibility!

That said, I think Cabello looks like the most creative chart here, although so much water may be inclined to literally go with the flow and do whatever crap the industry tells her to. Maybe its an unfair assumption as I've never really watched any interview or know her, but thats my two cents.

I suppose Hollywood has always molded and manipulated the stars but I feel like its almost robotic these days, like youre not even molded into a particular type of person (bar major SJW types) but more like a parrot hehe.

No it's based on the traditional system of faces and terms from Chaldeans and Ptolemy.


I can't confirm or deny if Cabello and Drake write their own songs but upon my research Mars writes and produces songs for himself and others with his production team Silk Press & Curl (or The Stereotypes?). Mars is definitely talented even if he's not your cup of tea.

The entertainment industry has always manipulated stars and put smokes and mirror over them, yes, especially during the time A&R was actually in use and pop stars held a magic over people. I do agree stars aren't really stars these days, but that seems to be more of the sign of the times and laziness on the part of the music industry not properly molding & marketing their singers anymore.

[Karka Queen]

I'll have to look at Venus and Sun & the 5th house ruler since those are the indicators of artistic creativity and talent.

The condition of Cabello's ASC ruler and Venus is good. However, her dispositor is peregrine [it has no essential dignities]. She has a strong love for music and admires it, she can easily process the melodies in her head and knows what feels right for her, and has artistic creativity; creativity but not a strongly defined vision or direction on her own, it seems she mostly gets help from "others" (people of the industry, her team?) when it comes to this.

I don't know what to think of her chart. I see someone who is glamorous and has the "pop star" image down, but the other aspects.....

[Karka Queen]

Drake has Caput Algol and Regulus hitting his major angles. Sirius is also conjunct his Moon! These are indicators of much worldly success and covet from others, Sirius conjunct his Moon also makes him influential and highly favorable with the opposite sex (duh), Regulus makes him very known and successful in most of his endeavors (duh). He even has Antares conjunct Saturn... well, lol.


Anatares conjunct Saturn's interpretation is pretty funny

"With Saturn: Materialistic, dishonest through circumstances created by environment, religious hypocrisy, many disappointments, loss through quarrels and legal affairs, trouble through enemies, many failures, hampered by relatives, unfavorable for domestic matters, much sickness to and sorrow from children. If at the same time the Moon is with Aldebaran, danger of death by sword or hanging. [Robson*, p.138.]
"

So is Caput Algol conjunct MC

If culminating: Murder, sudden death, beheading, prone to murder and mischief. If at the same time in conjunction with Sun, Moon or Jupiter, gives victory over others in war. [Robson*, p.124.]






Umm, I don't know what that means lol. Let me just leave that alone.


Anyway, his Ascendant ruler is in the third house which gives to an intelligent and active mind that easily absorbs information and the environment its in. His Venus is rx in Scorpio, therefore afflicted, but it's also conjunct the Nadir emphasizing its prominence in the chart, it is also trine Moon and Jupiter which is a lovely configuration. With this chart I see someone who has a wise and calculating mind and knows what just to do since he's very attuned with the public and knows how its fluctuates, and of course this shows in his creativity and art as well. 


Very excellent chart.

[Karka Queen]

Mars also has major stars impacting his chart but not as much. Fixed Star Antares is conjunct his Midheaven. It gives honor in the eyes of the public and good fortune.

Spica is conjunct his Mercury too, which interpretation is as follows...

With Mercury: Neat, tidy, clever, ingenious, favor of clergy and people in authority, gain through investment, responsible position. [Robson*, p.212.]



Like Drake, he also has a "bad" Venus since it's in its fall, and it's conjunct Mars which doesn't do it much favors, but it's also sextile Saturn. He takes his craft very seriously and probably stresses himself out a lot about it, poor thing. There is a mutual reception between Mercury and Venus though, which is very excellent and indicative of highly creative mind who deeply loves art and music, Mercury is also being conjunct Pluto and trine Neptune. Artistic inclinations and talents is there, as well as the ambition and unwavering prudence and studies of it.


Didn't do too much since there's like a chance this is not even the real rising, but I did what I could lol.

[FruityLlama]

Thank you for your explanations KarkaQueen; you obviously worked very hard on that and those are some fantastic observations. I hope when I have more time I can contribute more