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Post by anela on Jan 13, 2018 18:59:16 GMT
I've been dealing with this on and off for two years now, by transit, along with Pluto in my 3rd house. I don't like it. I was just wondering if anyone here had the square natally, and how you think you communicate, or how others dealt with the transit. I am so much quicker to anger and upset now. Although that has something to do with life in general, over the last six years. It's exact again now, and I've had the worst week. I relaxed last night, but I'm tense again today.
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Post by Ava on Jan 14, 2018 5:36:50 GMT
Hi anela, I wouldn't answer because I don't have that aspect and don't presume to know anything. But the forum's kind of in a drought and I don't like seeing threads with zero replies. As for mental angst....it's hard if you feel constrained. I shoot my mouth off because I have things to fall back on. "F this, I don't need this." That feels good to say but only because on some level I really believe it. And that's kind of sad, as if I'm a street dog with nothing to lose, but oh well, probably just a strange way I've conditioned myself after watching too many movies growing up. Maybe 3H Cap Pluto is about *thinking* (3H/Mercury) about the way structures (Cap) may end (Pluto) or shift and mess with your security. If that's affecting your ability to just blow off anger, because you are perhaps hyper-aware of the consequences, a possible solution in terms of emotional management could be....pretend you actually already did tell them off? After all, most of the time, people don't listen to us anyway. I mean, it doesn't actually really change anything if I have a meltdown, it just feels inevitable at the time. Neptune's in Pisces so maybe we can learn about the healing power of a vivid imagination now. Another tactic of course is just to energetically try and "change the channel"...watch something hilarious, do something creative to get into another headspace. Intention can be a kind of lantern that leads the way. For me, sometimes just setting the intention to cultivate good energy gives me a start-up boost of good feeling and happiness in the new endeavor. Optimism, I guess that's what it is. Hope you feel better soon!
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Post by lumina on Jan 14, 2018 13:56:04 GMT
anela I am sorry you had such a bad week again. As for the transit, I´ve never had it, I`ve had Tr Pluto conjunct my Mercury (and Sun) some years ago, but I think that is maybe a different thing. I call that the time I found my "authoritative voice" actually. Sounds weird, but me it makes sense. I like Ava interpretation though. I also think sometimes it might be good to try and "switch the channel" but especially with challenging Pluto-Mercury this might be a REAL challenge. I always think of this aspect as "obsessive thinking", and often meaning going round in circles in one`s mind. Maybe the transit is similiar. or it brings challenges from external sources, even bringing people or circumstances in your life that try to force or overpower or subdue your natural way of expression, which might lead to you finding the strength to say NO to that kind of suppression, but only after a real struggle there I guess. Or it could mean you get fixated on certain subjects and can`t seem to break through the negative thinking or sometimes just fixating on an idea, no matter if it is a good thing or a bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 0:15:02 GMT
I have this aspect natally. Abusive sibling or being abusive to sibling seems to be one theme of this aspect.
I am aware of how words can "kill". People with this aspects tend to be very intentional with their words, can be great researchers and also can be very sarcastic. The ability to mentally cut through the BS as well as seeing others being manipulative with their words. Basically for these natives, their whole life has been a chain of events of seeing people lying to their faces, or feeling like they are too blunt; people with this aspect could've faced backlash for speaking their mind so they eventually learn to adapt and be very exacting and careful to not present themselves or a situation incorrectly. There's always a BS radar and they are very discerning about what you got to say.
Since I have it natally I have never experienced the transit but i assume you will face people challenging the way you think or speak.
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Post by geminiblues on Jan 15, 2018 5:38:37 GMT
I have the aspect natally with a 4° orb. The problem is that it's all tangled up with my mutable Tsquare. Pluto conjunct Uranus opposite Saturn sR all square Mercury and the vertex in the 8th... Because of this, it's hard for me to isolate the effects.
I would agree that it lends itself to being more precise in word selection, but virgo Pluto and gemini Mercury might do that naturally already.
Words mean things. Sound and the vibration from it has power. Music and math and magic and physics and philosophy are one, if you know how to listen.
I've read that it can also lead to a willingness to examine or discuss taboo topics (with an 11th house Pluto, makes sense).
There's also a plutonic theme to my life. Lots of moves when I was younger. Some "reinventing of self" to adapt to the social setting. Pluto chart ruler square Mercury sun sign ruler.
Anyway, I would have had the opposition transit when Pluto was in early Sag. Maybe late 90's? I don't recall anything that stands out at the moment that I can't attribute to something else. I think Pluto works on a deeper level. It leads me to ask, is your Mercury natally stressed in such a way that a Pluto transit could be powering something up with your Mercury that already exists but is usually more quiet?
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Post by anela on Jan 16, 2018 2:58:04 GMT
geminiblues I have Mercury square Saturn, but it's wide. Pluto opposed Saturn five or six years ago, and then I dealt with Saturn through the 12th and 1st between 2010, I think and 2015. It's about to move into my 3rd, too. I'm torn between asking about things, or not, because it stresses me out even more - the idea of what could happen. Last week was the worst, and I'm hoping it will stick to last week, but damn it, I do obsess now. Sometimes with good reason, very good reason, but sometimes not. I feel like Uranus conjunct my Ceres/Chiron/Sun really isn't helping. Uranus used to be so good to me, but it's going to move into my 7th house soon, and that bothers me, too. Open enemies and the like. I'm not married, so no worries there. But I'm sick of my life and my mental state being upended. I just really can't believe my life right now. Over the last six years, actually. It eases out briefly, and then gets worse. I just want to win the lottery, and hide from everyone, but I also need to get out of the house, because being stuck makes it worse. I've just read about Pluto moving through the third house, and how it can really make you crazy. Lovely. Just what I needed. I wish I'd started seeing a therapist at the beginning of the transit. Before it entered my third house, I was dealing with something, and told mum that I thought I needed to see someone. Then again at the beginning of 2011, after that LL stuff happened at the end of 2010, along with what was affecting me before that. This was before my family crap. I do need to get up and do something, because I'm sitting in one place, stressing again now - but I can't go for a walk, because it's snowing out there, and the roads are covered. Maybe I'll take a salt bath. I rarely have those, anymore. I just hate this crazy. I hate being crazy in any form. Maybe Saturn will help there. I've been assuming the worst re: my surroundings/neighbourhood/sibling. Okay, I'm too anxious. I need to get off here now.
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Post by Ava on Jan 17, 2018 3:58:36 GMT
Have you ever heard of weighted blankets to help with anxiety, anela? I wonder if that would help? They're expensive but I figure, people can replicate the experience by just piling the blankets on. Hope you feel better now, or soon.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Jan 26, 2018 18:37:55 GMT
Have you ever heard of weighted blankets to help with anxiety, anela ? I wonder if that would help? They're expensive but I figure, people can replicate the experience by just piling the blankets on. Hope you feel better now, or soon. Oh, I didn't realize it was a thing! I like having weight on me, like heavy bags on my lap or my legs and yes - I try to weigh down my blanket too sometimes. It really does calm me down.
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