Infidelity and Affair Indicators in Synastry/Composite

[dreamer]

Hi all. I’m curious what you think. What stands out to you in synastry and a composite? 

I have several suspicions but I’d love to hear what you all think first. 

[midnight]

Interesting question.
I think, it relates more to the transits and natals, than synastry or composite, but as there are some aspects that help to "glue" people together, there may be some that can trigger separation or cheating.

For example, when it comes to transits, I didn't do the research very closely, but I personally know of the 2 couples where a man was cheating. They started having a side relationship during the transit Uranus square natal Venus. I think it's a classic transit that may suggest that the person will need some extra stimulation in relationship.

I'm really rumbling here, but try to look at persons natal too. For example, one of the people may need an airy freedom-loving and confident intellectual who isn't jealous and lets them stay out for drinks after work with co-workers. Their partner, on the other hand, may be someone who needs a lot of attention, doesn[t like to socialise, they are nurturing and caring, but like to be in control and feel uncomfortable letting their partner out of their sight. If they are mature and willing to work on the solution, they will try to find a golden middle, but if they are not, chances are one of the partners will look for the needed understanding elsewhere, despite them having a good amount of Saturn in their synastry. I don't know if I make sense, I just decided I'll share my thoughts till the others more experienced step in.

[lumina]

midnight

I agree with you, esp. in Terms of the importance of Natals. There is of course always a range of Manifestation, as you also pointed out.

I found it interesting what you said about Tr Uranus square Venus. P has been having it this recent year and Tr Uranus will come back to square his Venus exactly in february/ march and then move on to square his Juno in march/April.
But this aspect can of course manifest in a myriad of ways.

Interestingly his wife and him have the square between Venus and Uranus in their Composite. To make it really intriguing they put a Moon-Saturn-square from their wedding Chart, right on top of that Venus-Uranus-square. Well actually their wedding Chart has a T-square of Moon opposite Neptune squaring Saturn, and that Tr Saturn was or is sitting on their Composite Uranus on 5 Sagittarius.

I am sharing this cause I think it is an intriguing line up.

Also I remember my own Tr Uranus (on my IC) squaring Venus - interesting time. lol

[lumina]

I guess, I might have an inclination to that then from my natal

"* Sun, moon, Venus and possibly Mars in the 12H, natal or composite. "
Mars in 12th.


"Neptune contacts to the moon, Venus, or Mars in natal."
Neptune conjunct Mars


"* Venus aspecting Pluto"
Venus square Pluto

Pluto rules my 12th house, too, but chances are anything will not stay behind 12th house closed doors, as Pluto is conjunct MC and the most visible planet in my chart. Probably anyone else will realize what is going on before I do. lol

[lumina]

Thanks for pointing out that about Mars-Uranus. So I guess I should make a mental note about that one. I don´t think I`ve ever experienced it though. Well in transits, just recently, but not in relationship charts.

Oh wait P`s and my Davison has a Venus-Mars-conjunction opposing Uranus, and then square Saturn to make it really a tug of war I guess. lol I never really know what to think of that one honestly.
Well maybe wew ill find out, I think I spotted a lunar return, either his or mine, in the next year, having the horizon fall onto that Venus-Mars-Uranus-thing.

Anyway, somehow theoretically speaking, Mars-Uranus seems rather harsh to me, very electric, but I don`t know, it has a diff. feel for me than Venus-Uranus somehow.

[lumina]

Oh and that reminds me, I need to check some lunations and eventcharts. 

[lumina]

BTW in vedic astrology the 12th house is the hosue of "bed pleasures"

[lumina]

Also infidelity can sometimes happen with people who are usually faithful, too. NOt everyone is a serial cheater.

For example my best friend, who is actually a very faithful person, has cheated on an ex-boyfriend (with whom she was extremely incompatible, maybe that figured in). She eventually opened up about the affair though, unlike him, she neither tried to keep it a secret nor to live a double life.


She doesn`t really have all that many of the indicators from the video, only

Neptune trine Moon and sextile Venus and Mars
Venus conjunct Pluto


Interestingly her Solar REturn this year showed a widish opposition between Mars and Uranus

Mars 13 Leo in 11th (on her natal Saturn curiously enough, ruler ofher 7th and 8th house)
Uranus 9 Aquarius just before the cusp of 5th house (orb: 0°36) (trine her Venus-Mars-conjunction)

additionally an exact square of the Mercury-Venus-conjunction on 5 Virgo (on her natal IC) squaring Pluto on 5 Sagittarius.

(Saturn trined the Mercury-Venus: no wonder she tried to transform the affair into a committed relationship)
Saturn also opposed her natal Uranus-NN though. 


these midpoints seemed relevant for that too

Sun in 12th house conjunct Venus/ASC (she simply fell in love I guess)
Moon in 7th house opposite Sun/Neptune, square Mercury/Mars, square Venus/Mars
Mercury and Venus in 11th square Uranus/ASC - wow the emerging picture is much clearer than I would have expected!
Mars in 11th square Moon/Saturn and Jupiter/MC - relating to both the emotional pain it brought but also the hopefulness
Saturn in 7th opposite Pluto/ASC- speaking of the extreme compulsiveness and bindingness that took place (more like a jail though than a real healthy relationship)
Neptune in 4th opposite Moon/ASC (too much dreaminess WAS a factor, and it was very uncharacteristic for her)
Pluto in 2nd square Mercury/Venus and conjunct Uranus/ASC
DESC conjunct Moon/Uranus
MC conjunct Moon/Mars, Mercury/Saturn, Venus/Saturn 


INterstingly the guy she was having the affair with had Sun on her SR NN exact (he had it himself in SR) and conjunct the SR Mercury-Venus by 4 degrees. 

His Moon on her SR IC, and his Uranus being squaring her SR Mars-Uranus-opposition

there were also strong relations of her SR to their composite, though no Mars-Uranus inc omposite. 
They had Mars-Saturn-conjunction in 5th house, and while my parents have that too and have no problem it seems in the physical area, though I do not want to think about it. lol, this was exactly what did not work at all with my friend and her affair. 

anyway my friend`s SR Mercury-Venus fell onto composite Venus closely, and her SR ASC fell onto composite DESC. 

hmm, maybe Solar returns are checkworthy, too, then.

[lumina]

Ava

I did not get the impression you were subtly accusing anyone. Why did you think that?
I am prone living in my fantasies, yes, emotional cheating, well I guess that could happen.
Well, I don`t know, I like to think of course that my moral standards are high, but then again I´ve come to realize they might not be THAT high after all.

Dunno, Mars-Neptune can be confusing at times.

However I do think that Venus in Capricorn and Saturn in 8th house has to be figured into the equation in my case.

Well for me it is JUST Mars-Neptune, but with your configuration, I think you might have such a high standard, that it is impossible to be met in reality, most of the times. And definitely a very idealistic configuration. with Mars in Gemini, Venus in Sag, I think a lot can be resolved through communication really.

[dreamer]

You guys have shared a lot of amazing stuff! A lot of it very helpful. Thank you! I'm writing up my response so I'll have to come back, but thank you.

[anela]

I'm usually wary of the same things being blamed that faith mentioned. Someone I'm thinking of wasn't technically cheating, they are also technically single, but they were secretly meeting someone, and talking to them every day, as Venus went through their 12th house.