Saturn in Capricorn - Dec 21st 2017

[Ava]

For what it's worth, here's the U.S. East Coast ingress chart, with fate asteroids included:





I love it, Karma is exactly on my NN, only 0.01° orb.

That's really encouraging.

*sarcasm

[lumina]

I`ve been thinking about Atropos lately. I have been having it on the MC, for the last days, actually most closely yesterday, today and tomorrow. Yesterday it was additionally squaring Diurnal Moon.

On the other hand I checked the last time it was on that axis, but on the IC, and nothing bad really happened. Actually quite the opposite.

Oh and I just see that Juno is precisely falling onto our composite ASC, which is also on 1°21 Aquarius. lol

Hmm, Karma-NN is interesting, seems like a double-hit somehow, you are certainly living in karmic times!
Well it means it must be conjunct someone else`s SN, it is also conjunct P`s Valentine and my Anteros, which are both on 19 Scorpio, and additionally falling onto his Odysseus (19 Scorpio) and my Penelope (21 Scorpio). lol That is kind of funny, isn`t it?

[lumina]

that is the ingress chart at my location

[Ava]

Dec 20, 2017 6:26:33 GMT lumina said:

Well it means it must be conjunct someone else`s SN, it is also conjunct P`s Valentine and my Anteros, which are both on 19 Scorpio, and additionally falling onto his Odysseus (19 Scorpio) and my Penelope (21 Scorpio). lol That is kind of funny, isn`t it?

It's cute!

I like Juno's location, too...but don't you two have Juno on the SN in composite? This is old news...

Saturn's second ingress to Cap in 1988 was quite personal to me, the sun was exactly on my NN, and there were some other conjunctions to my chart. Maybe that's why it became such a life-altering transit. This time, no serious red flags, except I'm wary of ingress chart's moon-Pluto sitting on the midpoint of my 8H moon and Scorpio NN. Too much Pluto.  

Can someone just kick that thing out of orbit? I'm so tired of its BS.

[lumina]

Ava ,

no we don`t have Juno on the SN. Well my Juno is on Lancelot`s SN, maybe you were thinking of that?

in the composite with P, Juno is in Taurus in 4th house, conjunct Alma, and being part of a cradle with Moon, Ceres, Valentine-Lust, of a T-square or Grand Cross with Saturn-Vertex, Valentine-Lust and Psyche, of a Yod with Ceres and Mars, and probably some other configurations.


I never looked up the Cap ingress in 1988, though I remember that year vividly, for the dream I´ve had in the beginning of it, as well as my decision to fall in love. lol Curiously enough it did happen, though it was not really all that nice. I mean it was nice and exciting for the experience, but it had some serious downsides. lol



Anyway Sun on NN definitely sounds major!!!!

[12YearsABlob]

"For the first-timers, you may be learning lessons associated with your goals and ambitions, your direction in life, and pay dearly for shortcuts taken, irresponsibility, rudeness and inconsideration, and laziness. Now is the time to get serious, get focused, get disciplined, work hard and smart, make plans and stick to them, be realistic and practical, and grow the f up. And, if this is your first Saturn return, you’re one of those late 80’s-early 90’s kids with Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn too, so Saturn will also conjunct them; you may *really* feel the weight of Saturn’s restriction and limitation and ability to force lessons on you in harsh ways, so don’t run from it, or you’ll make it worse. Find ways to make that trio work for you, or it’ll work against you."
From: here.

Yeah, "time to grow the f up".

[Violets]

Yikes. Well, everyone preparing to go through your first Saturn Return, I wish you the best. 💖

[12YearsABlob]

Thanks, Violets.

Just saw this on Humans of New York! Original Post: here.

[Violets]

12YearsABlob, I saw that one, too!

[Violets]

Yuck. The last time Saturn was in the early degrees of Capricorn, I was in junior high. No, it was not fun.

[12YearsABlob]

So cool, right? And Ryan Reynolds liked it on Instagram (which is where I first saw it). I'm stoked that he "believes", after a fashion, at least. So does Katy Perry, for that matter - she posts about retrogrades sometimes. Even had a song about her Saturn return.

ETA: Context - the HONY post. Not your high school, sorry about that!

[12YearsABlob]

Dec 20, 2017 17:02:12 GMT Violets said:

Yuck. The last time Saturn was in the early degrees of Capricorn, I was in junior high. No, it was not fun.

Was that the same time period Ava was talking about?

[Violets]

I think around that, yeah? We're only about a year apart, I think.

[the89freespirit]

Wow okay. The first day of my Saturn Return and I already feel a significant difference. Like, overnight! I wasn't expecting it to hit me like that. I don't know what's ahead but I already have a good feeling about this.

A lot of my aspects have "returned" already because they're in such early degrees: tr. Saturn's now opposite my Jupiter, conjunct my Uranus (which will be exact shortly), and trine my Mercury and Mars; all of these aspects are in my natal chart. It's now widely conjunct my Saturn but won't be conjunct my Neptune until next month. The Moon sextile Saturn aspect won't "return" until around March. Anyway, I woke up today and felt so energized and prepared for something new. I feel like things have been hard enough for me in the past few years (thanks Pluto!) and now it feels like I'm beginning a release of many things, which would take a full essay for me to explain.

Also, since Uranus rules my chart, it does make sense that this conjunction feels like a new beginning, like I'm hitting the reset button on my life. It definitely hasn't been easy living out this unconventional path and journey of mine, especially with Saturn conjunct Uranus. But, I think that all of those struggles have been a preparation and now I'm ready to come into my own.

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I can relate! When I woke up this morning I instinctively wanted to flex and scream. Kinda weird. Had some really vivid dreams last night, too!

I won't have my exact Saturn Return until 2020 but I'm very curious as to what this transit will bring. Saturn in Sag was all about higher education for me (how apt) so I'm sure the Cappie Edition will be quite interesting.

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the89freespirit : this is why i believe in whole sign system. I felt it immediately yesterday and already took real actions

[anela]

Dec 20, 2017 17:02:12 GMT Violets said:

Yuck. The last time Saturn was in the early degrees of Capricorn, I was in junior high. No, it was not fun.

Same here. Back then, bullying finally stopped at one school. They started defending me if someone picked on me, not long before school finished. I enjoyed the summer, until my mother did her impulsive move thing, moved us to a place I hated. We both begged her not to: things were better for my sister, too. She'd joined the girls brigade, and just came back from a happy camping experience.

we were both bullied at the new place. I became suicidal in 1990. Dropped out. Uranus hit Capricorn, my third house. Dad broke up with his second wife at the end of 1989, came to see us at Christmas, talks about getting back together with mum. They made it official several months later. Moved October 1st 1990, over here. Had to live with his sister and her kids. We were there for seven months. Drama ensued. things improved when we moved out, may 1991. 

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The last time Saturn was in Capricorn I was a toddler, so I was too young to understand anything back then. It will be interesting to see what effects Capricorn Saturn will have.