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Sept 30, 2017 17:56:47 GMT
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Post by Violets on Sept 30, 2017 18:03:35 GMT
Omg, I never watch YouTube astrology videos, but this guy is funny, and I'm a minute into it and I like that he's addressing my primary issues with Pisces stereotypes. So I'll watch it.
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Post by Ava on Oct 1, 2017 13:58:46 GMT
Tried answering yesterday but deleted it.
I'm not really sure what goes on inside of Pisces. He's talking about the psychological impulses, and some of it matches my observations, and some doesn't. For instance, he recommends that Pisces moons just go into a dark room and vegetate. Do we even need to be told that? It comes naturally. The advice should be more like: remember to leave that room.
Why do we become sharks?
Of course there are differences between the sun, moon, and ASC, and I think the triggers vary accordingly.
In my case, I don't see that it arises from boredom. I like silence and tranquility. I go for long walks alone, thinking of nothing special, and it's great.
I think I'm just prepared to fight and defend my value system. If I've done right, according to my own internal standards, and someone is telling me I've done wrong, or treating me badly....well I may put up with that a long time. But if they subject me to some kind of abuse, trying to force me into something bad, I'll fight back.
My best friend is a Pisces sun and she has more vision and less patience than me. She is extremely discerning. Someone can walk into her place of business, and she hates them on the spot, and she will not be sweet. (Aqua moon conjunct Mars.) Her co-workers will try and convince her to like various people and she'll say "Nope! You'll see it eventually..." and basically, not to glorify her TOO much, but she is usually if not always right. It may take a while but people tell her, "Now I see it."
What's hard about Pisces is, sometimes you do see more than others and can't even understand how others do not see what you see. Like I don't consider myself special, so why is this plain and obvious fact eluding others' comprehension? What's worse is, sometimes I do not see what others are seeing, and my judgment can be off. So...it just takes a lot of practice and concentration to hold my balance.
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Post by anela on Oct 1, 2017 15:39:51 GMT
I've had the same experience, only my sun is ruled by Pisces Mars. I used to have a lot of patience, and sometimes I still surprise myself. When my cousin attacked me, a couple of months ago, I ended up telling her it wasn't her fault. It WAS her fault, in that she felt the need to jump on me with accusations and judgement, but I saw her as being prey to the gossip from people with nasty intentions, so I let it go.
My gut is never wrong about people, but I bypass it all the time, because I want it to be wrong.
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Post by Violets on Oct 1, 2017 17:04:41 GMT
I liked his perspective, and can identify with what he said (although it was a bit long and roundabout for me as far as watching a YouTube astrology video, heh...but he was funny, at least).
It is true for me that if I don't have that quiet time to myself to meditate or be outside by myself, I become quite irritable and spiritually out of sorts. This is why I prefer to have my own bedroom, and live in the country. Living in a major city works for me as well, if I live by myself.
Otherwise I do become self-destructive in very subtle ways. If there's no way for me to clear out all of the energy I accumulate from other people and general life annoyances or stress, I tend to just pay less attention to my true needs, and focus too much on outside stuff that really doesn't require as much energy as I'm giving it during those times.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 17:51:27 GMT
Well he was just describing that Pisces need to go to a room and meditate. It's a pretty common description/advice-ish. I've heard it so many times before.
I relate to his description as a 12th moon, venus/neptune exact conjunct. And I think he describes the parts that I think many people do not get right about pisces or neptune. It's not all cozy and sweet. Lots of Pisceans I know exhibit this boredom with life and they go on this pointless roundabout quest of searching for something out there via whatever they think is divine or sacred - ie. gambling, alcohol, etc...
Effing the ineff-able is honestly very accurate lol. Neptune/jupiter people think of themselves as being on a special mission to where nobody reaches. Scientology was founded by a Pisces. And Jesus was a pisces too, with an aquarius moon.
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Oct 1, 2017 19:06:43 GMT
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Post by Violets on Oct 1, 2017 19:06:43 GMT
I have yet to meet a Pisces who is cozy and sweet, or demure the way that the stereotypes like to paint us. I've always found that odd. Most Pisces I know in real life are also quite "together" in their lives, none of this aimless searching stuff. They can also be loud and strongly opinionated. I'm actually one of the only Pisces Suns I know personally who has gone through that period of seeking the divine or creative inspiration through some unhealthy means, only to realize that it doesn't work that way. Quite the opposite. I did have one other Pisces friend who was that way, but to be fair he had a clinical diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder (I don't, for the record). So, eh. I'll come back to this.
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Post by Ava on Oct 1, 2017 22:43:55 GMT
Violets"I have yet to meet a Pisces who is cozy and sweet, or demure the way that the stereotypes like to paint us. I've always found that odd." I see a lot of sweetness, but it doesn't render the person weak and soft, I see Pisces as strong and supporting of others, taking on a lot of responsibility. My husband has had a lot of Pisces friends, I don't know why. His best friend has a Pisces stellium including sun, possibly moon, Mercury, Jupiter, NN. So what do we imagine? He's drunk and wasted his life? Rescues stray animals, leaves a trail of failed marriages in his wake? No, he writes books on running a construction business, after running a large organization. He can be harsh...... But yeah, he buys every spiritual book under the sun, it seems, and as long as I'm not pissing him off somehow, he's incredibly kind, it seems to come out of his every pore. I've also seen him go from very tough to crying without any trace of embarrassment, while talking about hard times. Another one of his Pisces sun friends was an engineer, another is a computer programmer, another's a dentist. All interested in spiritual topics but not lost in them. *One* Pisces man we've known is overly religious and self-important, but even he is exceptional with computers and supports a large family comfortably, without even having a college degree. My Pisces sun uncle is the patriarch of the family, he has 15 children (4 biological, 1 adopted, 10 step-chidren) and they lived in a mansion where ten of the bedrooms had their own fireplaces....almost like a movie setting. LOL Really, most people do seem to be able to keep their heads above water, and Pisces is no exception. If anything from what I've seen, they are intuitive enough to apply their gift of intuition and succeed more often than usual, especially in the face of adversity. They deserve WAY more credit. Even the famous Pisces types we see, who succumb to drugs and alcohol...well, hey, they still did succeed in spite of that. They made it to work and inspired people a lot. Please no one quote, I think I went overboard here...
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Oct 2, 2017 1:39:02 GMT
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Post by Violets on Oct 2, 2017 1:39:02 GMT
The Pisces I know in real life include a graphics designer for a major company who plays drums in a band in his free time, a real estate agent with a number of side projects/businesses that offer a nice income (although to be objective, she is obnoxiously flaky, with not much attention to detail), my brother--whose goal since childhood was to be a career Marine, which he did for ten years, and then switched careers to become a cop so that he wasn't traveling all the time with a family. None of these people are particularly spiritually minded, they're mostly no bullshit types with not much patience, but they're also not particularly self-destructive or excessive.
I'm basically just thinking out loud here regarding the Pisces folk I know in real life, don't mind my rambling.
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Post by lumina on Oct 2, 2017 12:22:51 GMT
My little brother has a Pisces Sun with Pisces Rising, his Sun is in the 12th. His wife has Sun and Venus in Pisces in 12th house, with Aries rising. Both are pretty opinionated people (but my brother has strong emphasis on Sagittarius and Aries, too, his wife has Mercury and ASC in Aries, Mars in Scorpio, certainly not someone who lets herself being pushed around. and her Moon is in Virgo). P has a Pisces rising, too, with a lot of SAgittarius-influence. In fact that is what I notice that most Pisces (Sun, Moon or ASC) ALSO have a certain emphasis in particular of the fire or earth signs. WEll in Europe when someone has a PIsces-ASC, chances are good that Aries is intercepted in their 1st house and also supports them. What I observed about those Pisceans is that first of all they can be anything they want, and hence confuse people a bit. And secondly they are very observant, in an intuitive way. They just know things, even if you are not aware that they are aware. Cause some Pisces people are not really sharing what they know because they think that everyone knows this, too, when they don`t. (just what Faith wrote). Well that is NOT true for my brother, he is known for his monologues about all kind of things, from conspiracy theories over social and political things and much more. He`s also been much aware from a young age on that we live in a multi-layered society, and with that I mean that there is a deeper layer to society, that most of us are not aware of, unless we get into conflict with those. i am not talking about different spiritual dimensions, but very worldly one (and yes many of those having to do with the way so called authorities are using or rather misusing their power, something not many people are really aware of).
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Post by Ava on Oct 2, 2017 13:29:22 GMT
I do like surveying the actual Pisces population to see what they're doing. Now with suns versus moons, I think the moons are more often troubled & matching the negative stereotypes. I think that happens because the moon is simply not as strong as the sun. So we have the sensitivity, but not necessarily the functional skills I associate with Pisces...we just fall into things and lack the tools to pull ourselves out. Extreme sensitivity can be a handicap; what's simple and straightforward to others can be debilitating to a Pisces moon. I realized this when I went into an Indian grocery store once, and saw the owner, who I'm on a friendly basis with. He looked deeply pained about something when I walked in, so I hid in the aisle and then left when he wasn't looking. I did that because it literally made me ill to look at him, and if I talked to him, I knew I would get sicker. That was the beginning of when I started paying attention to just how profoundly I was affected by things, and seeing it wasn't normal. Sorry for whining (again)
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Oct 2, 2017 15:18:41 GMT
Post by anela on Oct 2, 2017 15:18:41 GMT
I don't think I know many Pisces Suns - I know more with moon, Venus, or Mars there.
My Pisces aunt was very laid back. Welcoming to everyone. She and her first husband night the house next to my grandmother's, so she was always there for her. It pained me to see her and my mum do so much for grandma, only to not really be appreciated for it. Grandma favored my Cappy aunt, Aquarius aunt, and Leo uncle, who all thought more about themselves than her.
She was married to an alcoholic, and never divorced him. He died over twenty years ago, but she ended up in another marriage that want that happy. I miss her - she was my favourite aunt. My parents lived with her when I was born, and mum complained that she was always holding me, playing with me, when she wanted to hold me - but that my aunt also made me laugh before babies are expected to laugh at anything.
Mum and my aunt didn't speak for a few years, after my grandma died. Mum and my uncle wanted to get her hose sorted out, to get it over with, because they knew they wouldn't have time after the funeral. My aunt thought it was too soon.
One thing I didn't like, was when she let her husband throw us out. He was like my sister's husband: blaming her siblings for any trouble, when he was an abusive mess. Mum would stand up to him, and she would beg mum to go, saying that he promised things would be better if we weren't around.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 15:21:37 GMT
Me a Pisces SUN MOON MERCURY
I tried to reply to the thread but I am not too sure what to say really, maybe all my Pisces aspects are just not in the mood to reply, but I do prefer to answer specific questions if anyone wishes to ask I am an open book
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Post by anela on Oct 2, 2017 15:21:40 GMT
I don't know how much to attribute to my Mars, versus anything else. I remember mum cheering when I defended myself, because I would usually just go quiet, and avoid people. She liked seeing my backbone. Now I argue all the time. I will cry as I do it, but I'm ready to go. I miss my more placid self.
Dad has Venus in Pisces, and is the huge romantic they're made out to be. He's also a great caretaker.
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