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Hey guys. I've been pretty preoccupied with the concept of Vesta lately, so how timely that I stumbled across this article on her via Mystic Medusa: Marcus Aurelius was Vesta conjunct Pluto in Aries. Vesta is an asteroid, albeit a very large asteroid, like Ceres. She counts. And although i refer to her as the “Fire Goddess” in the Horoscopes, it is more apt to say that Vesta is not a she nor a he. Vesta is an elemental. Vesta IS Fire.So Vesta – aka the Greek Hestia (yes there is a bra company named after Hestia, Freya (the Norse Venus) also) is FIRE. And in ancient times, Fire itself was a deity. Hence the importance of the candle burning always, as your symbolic life force, vitality and honoring of this deity. Think about how Prometheus was said to have stolen Fire from the gods and how the hearth was the center of the old day homes for an idea of how important Vesta/Fire is. Feng Shui carries this on in that there are certain areas of your home that should be FIRE – you do this by a candle burning/incense/loads of red there. The Vestal Virgins of Ancient Rome were charged with keeping the sacred flame of the city-state alive. I am obsessed with Vestal Virgins and they are a whole separate subject in their own right. Barbara Walker in the absolutely-must-own book – The Woman’s Encylopedia Of Myths & Secrets – has some excellent material on them. Pre-Christianity, there was not so much emphasis on their virginity, more on their independence. The rise of Christianity was not so kind to these ladies. HOWEVER, do not let me digress. The astrological Vesta shows where you have FIRE – a passionate, inexhaustible flame that burns within. An invincible Summer, your own little personal Sol Invictus. Never mind if your Vesta is in an Earth sign or whatever. Vesta is Fire. And Vesta in a Fire sign is particularly strong. You don’t let this flame flicker.So – a personal example – i have Vesta in Aries, on my Mercury and in my third house. I have always written. And i always have ideas. i trust that they will auto-regenerate. But (and this is an illustration of third house versus 9th house) I am drawn to multiple media + blogging but find finishing an actual book (writing or reading one lol) really difficult. Short courses or two hour workshops with loads of info fast appeal to me more than long courses. If I had Vesta in the 9th on Mercury, it would no doubt be the opposite. So Vesta is where you are strong, passionate and more or less devoted but that very Fire energy can really easy exasperate or threaten people who are weak in that area or do just don’t have Vesta/Fire there. Vesta vibe is where you independent as fuq – not in a reactive way – you just burn and everything is fuel for you. Vesta in synastry – between two charts – can be super-hot. We will do this more in depth when we do Composite Charts but the Composite Chart Vesta is your FLAME. You want twin flame action – to see if the fire between you will ignite? Look to the Composite Vesta. SO some examples. Ronda Rousey – the UFC fighter and until recently, champion – is Vesta on Mars in Aries. The Actor Jennifer Lawrence is also Mars-Vesta, albeit in Taurus. Note impassioned talk-outs on behalf of female actors and the wages (less than their male counterparts) they are paid. Totes Taurus/Mars/Vesta emphasis. Madonna is Vesta-Midheaven – well that flame keeps on a burning no matter what. Katherine Hepburn was Sun-Vesta – she did all kinds of pioneering shizz in her day. She also liked to have a lit fire or candle in any room. Brene Brown, the author and speaker, is Vesta in Cancer – the Power of Vulnerability indeed. She’s an emotional innovator on a huge scale. Again, notice how whatever comes at her becomes fuel for the growth of that sacred flame. Usain Bolt – the fastest man in the world ever – has Vesta in Aries on his North Node. How’s that for a literal interpretation. North Node in Aries pioneers the way most people breathe. Aries is fast. Vesta is flame. Cristiano Ronaldo is Vesta-Pluto in Scorpio and consistently one of the top ten most celebrated, highly paid and successful athletes in the world. Vesta-Pluto is like a fire burning in a vault. Vesta is devotion but not drippy, puppy-love devotion – Vesta is fierce and unyielding devotion. Watch Vesta by transit for more of an idea as to how Fire operates – right now Vesta is at 28 Pisces. So where is your Vesta? This is your elemental Fire. And, if you know how to do a Composite Chart, where is the Composite Vesta? That’s your Flame. Vesta is at the powerful Zero Aries point on December 4 – having spent since late March in Pisces/Aries. Watch your Vesta! This Vesta by transit! His Vesta! Her Vesta. The phrase “vested interest” and “invest” come from Vesta. And, you know what they say, never leave an open flame unattended.Interestingly, Vesta plays quite a powerful role in my major interpersonal relationships. In synastry alone: Mentor turned boyfriend: His Vesta conjunct my SN (0°) Mentor turned good friend: My Vesta conjunct his Mercury (1°) and Sun (3°) - also his Vesta forms the apex of a kite with my earth grand trine. Boss turned boyfriend: His Vesta conjunct my Saturn (0°) My father: My Vesta conjunct his Saturn (2°) and his Vesta conjunct my Mercury (4°) My mother: My Vesta conjunct her NN (4°) All of these people make me COME ALIVE and have inspired my psychological landscape in prominent ways. Vesta also shows itself as a big player in the respective composites for all these people. I do love all of these people selflessly, unconditionally, and want to protect them with a warrior-like fierceness (my Vesta in Aries) Anyways.. this is just a Vesta thought dump Feel free the extrapolate/share.
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Post by lumina on Sept 21, 2017 8:58:44 GMT
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Post by anela on Sept 21, 2017 11:08:11 GMT
My vesta is conjunct my Mars in Pisces, square moon/Venus/ SN, trine uranus/ascendant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 22:11:02 GMT
Wow, those were both really interesting Ceri. Amazing that the author puts Vesta in such a place of importance when they also consider it along with the Vertex and the NN. I really feel that to be accurate as I comb through the synastries of fascinating connections throughout my life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 22:12:35 GMT
My vesta is conjunct my Mars in Pisces, square moon/Venus/ SN, trine uranus/ascendant. Vesta/Mars! I can see this in your resilience and your ability to always see the good in people. You always seem to emotionally pick yourself back up in spite of the many obstacles you face in your life. There's also definitely a cozy kind of peace you emanate from your online presence
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Post by Violets on Sept 22, 2017 14:38:21 GMT
I've also been curious about Vesta, but I need to read the article. I have Vesta in Aquarius, in my 6th house. It's trine my Pluto, and depending on how wide of an orb one chooses to use (3 degrees), possibly conjunct my Mercury.
Vesta in Aquarius and 6th house fits my passion at work, and for advocating for the groups I work with pretty well, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 14:48:44 GMT
Vesta/Mercury in Aqua sounds pretty powerful imo! You do have an incisive mind and a keen knack for detail, plus you're able to be objective in situations that a lot of people wouldn't be able to be ♒🔥
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Post by lumina on Sept 22, 2017 15:30:54 GMT
BTW while I agree with 4th harmonic aspects being building blocks, event-triggering and providing necessary sparks, I have found a new appreciation for trines actually. NO they do not spark like the 4th harmonic aspects, but there is something inherently very constructive flowing in them. Sometimes you just want to feel in synch with someone, understood and like you are on the same page.
With trines I find it so intriguing because they emphasize a certain element. I never even realized that before, but especially with the personal planets and some of the more personal asteroids (I would count Vesta, Ceres, Juno, possibly also Eros, Amor and Psyche as more relationship-relevant here) the energy of the emphasized element (as a connective factor between two people) might run pretty deep (though almost unnoticed, because it feels so natural) in the relating to each other.
So I wouldn`t underestimate especially close trines to Vesta. Actually I would even keep an eye at least on direct midpoints. but maybe that is just me. My Vesta is on 1 Capricorn and right on the Sun/Venus and Mercury/Venus-mp; it is too wide to be conjunct either (5 degrees in each direction) but it is where the energies flow together in the midpoint and Vesta is right there.
BTW I met P when a transiting Moon-Pluto-conjunction was falling exact on my natal Vesta. Funny enough this transiting Moon-Pluto was having an exact trine to Tr Saturn on 1 Virgo, which fell onto P`s NN on 1 Virgo. But what I find almost funny is that HIS Vesta on 2°59 Taurus was occupying the missing corner for a Grand trine. lol
Well of course we do have synastrically a Grand trine if we count his NN as one possible factor in a Grand trine.
my progressed Moon incidentally was falling onto his natal Vesta, too, that night. (synastrically we have the reverse, his Moon conjunct my Vesta, and I think there might be some Moon-Vesta relation in the progressions currently, but not sure)
But anyway especially in terms of Vesta (and the romantic/physical planets) we seem to resonate with the Earth-element, though in composite Vesta is in Pisces. I don`t think she is doing important things in the composite, however composite Vesta is conjunct his SN-Priapus-conjunction, and when we met, his pr Venus had been closing in on that, trine my Uranus.
Well the two aspects that stand out to me synastrically about our Vesta-synastry is:
my Vesta conjunct his Moon his Vesta opposite my Uranus
There are more aspects of course (like my Vesta trine his NN, his Vesta trine my Venus etc.), but these just jump out at me.
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Post by lumina on Sept 22, 2017 15:33:21 GMT
Ava hey we both have Vesta on the AP!!! Yours is even starting a whole new cycle, infused with that "beginning" pioneer energy! Makes so much sense. well yours is disposited by Mars in Gemini - just lovely. I think it plays into the expression, don`t you think? I mean you are burning in your communications!
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Post by anela on Sept 22, 2017 17:52:12 GMT
My vesta is conjunct my Mars in Pisces, square moon/Venus/ SN, trine uranus/ascendant. Vesta/Mars! I can see this in your resilience and your ability to always see the good in people. You always seem to emotionally pick yourself back up in spite of the many obstacles you face in your life. There's also definitely a cozy kind of peace you emanate from your online presence Oh, thank you. That's so kind of you to say. I wish I felt the same way. I was just thinking the other day, "Why did I ever say that I was resilient!?"
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Post by lumina on Sept 23, 2017 10:32:04 GMT
Ava wow, quite some asteroids you have around 00 Cap! And some of them I´ve never heard of before. lol Well I have a few gathered there as well, at least those I remember Gilgamesh 1812 0°43 Cap Vesta 1°22 Capricorn Knight 29391 1°54 Cap Sindbad 41488 2°44 Cap Boda 1487 3°39 Cap (spanish word for: wedding; but in the urban dictionary it also means an "obese/ overweight chick" ) Tristan 1966 3°43 Cap Chaldaea 313 4°23 Cap (ancient babylonian people, but also the name being used for "ancient Star-readers/ astrologers" ) So my Vesta seems to be surrounded by a combination of Arthurian/celtic and Babylonian asteroids. BTW I don`t believe that one isolated asteroid or even planet is a sign of either a twinflame (I am wary of that anyway) or even a well matched couple. Some couples might resonate more with Vesta than others, what is there will be more interesting to check in terms of HOW they relate to each other. BTW I find the Vesta-Neptune aspect quite dreamy and the composite Vesta on your Pluto profoundly dedicated.
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Post by lumina on Sept 23, 2017 12:57:34 GMT
Ava A boomerang Yod? with Vesta on his Pluto/Neptune-mp, sounds otherworldly, sacred even. Magical. Pluto/Neptune is the supernatural midpoint after all, you must infuse him with a lot of spiritual energy, or at least deep psychological emtoions. Dulcinea - I remember, how Paul almost "killed" me, when I was finally seeing him in real life, and the first role (totally uncharacteristic for him) was Don Quixote, and to this day I still get goosebumps just thinking about him singing "Dulcinea". lol I haven`t found his version though. and noone else can sing it like he did. BTW my Dulcinea is on 3 Scorpio
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"No one has the intimidation factor of Vesta in Aries..." and she talks about our self-confidence. I do see what she means...if we keep the fire burning for ourselves, who can put it out? It's a small thing, but a big thing. When I talk to people, I'm almost never trying to intimidate them. But if people insult me, there's this little bit of smugness like, "You don't know what you're dealing with." I'm psychologically more rugged than I appear. Edit: I confess, I do like the intro music to that video: Aries - All I Do Is Win I completely agree! I feel I'm such a placid person in nearly all situations, though when I must rise to the occasion (such as in instances where I'm underestimated or called to a role of last minute leadership) I can really feel that Vesta in Aries fire up. I love your usage of the term "rugged" (like rugged terrain where few can survive on the land) as I feel it is particularly apt for survival-of-the-fittest Aries
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Post by Ava on Sept 29, 2017 15:23:03 GMT
Thank you athena. You're amazing, your finesse with language is incredible to me.
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Oh I am so amazed by this!! Finally!! I didnt even read it, but I am exoecting it for years, like I have vesta opposite my sun/moon midpoint and been wondering how to understand this. I think its importantA I am.feeply fascinated by Vesta as I am Greek and can totally feel what the importance of it since the ancient years and till now, although not in the same way totally. The concept of hestia as hearth and consequently family is still powerful nowdays here. Just some thoughts.. lol Ohh I am so happy that I found this!! Going back to reading the posts now..lol 😂
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athena I cant stand to read all of the post, I am SO enthusiastic about it...till I read the word flame..and that was it!! Is it possible that you helped me uf you can? Should I start a thread in the readings sub forum with your name (or maybe tagging you in the one I already opened) or can I post my COMPOSITE WITH VESTA here?? Please if you could give any insight, i would be most grateful!! I can exchange with runes!! Thank you so muvh for this thread!! Ohhhh I am SO thrilled! I can also verify that from what I have studied till now, Vesta is really important about 2flames, since (coincidentally???) I found a healer teacher that has his aqua Sun on my Vesta and has a permanent workshop so to speak for healers, spirituality etc named "Hestia"!!!! Could you believe that? He also teaches about twinflames etc and has a workshop for a healing session for this and this happened the same time I ve been searching for Vesta ANd twinflames (after I fell in love lol) So I took it as an omen and went there and asked his hour of birth and made him a chart lol!!! * Ironically I had posted a long time ago one thread asking about Vesta in LL asteroids subforum!!
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Not to mention he has a Pluto Vesta conjunction right on my jupiter and in the composite we have vesta conj. Jupiter conj. Neptune (depends the orb one accepts for this if course) opp. Venus/Vertex exact!!! Lol And since I started noticing this pattern of Vesta around (I have pallas opp. Pholus after all lol), I ve been looking at all kinds of charts with a new eye and found that all people that had or have an impact iny life or I like them right away with no reason have strong Vesta in their chart, which is imo reasonable since I have vesta opp. S/M midpoint, which is pretty important after all.!! Even though I havent fully understood it of course!! So yes, I really cannot thank you enough for this thread athena!! At last I can discuss somewhere about that!! So lucky !! 😊✌❤🤗😍
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Hey guys. I've been pretty preoccupied with the concept of Vesta lately, so how timely that I stumbled across this article on her via Mystic Medusa: Marcus Aurelius was Vesta conjunct Pluto in Aries. Vesta is an asteroid, albeit a very large asteroid, like Ceres. She counts. And although i refer to her as the “Fire Goddess” in the Horoscopes, it is more apt to say that Vesta is not a she nor a he. Vesta is an elemental. Vesta IS Fire.So Vesta – aka the Greek Hestia (yes there is a bra company named after Hestia, Freya (the Norse Venus) also) is FIRE. And in ancient times, Fire itself was a deity. Hence the importance of the candle burning always, as your symbolic life force, vitality and honoring of this deity. Think about how Prometheus was said to have stolen Fire from the gods and how the hearth was the center of the old day homes for an idea of how important Vesta/Fire is. Feng Shui carries this on in that there are certain areas of your home that should be FIRE – you do this by a candle burning/incense/loads of red there. The Vestal Virgins of Ancient Rome were charged with keeping the sacred flame of the city-state alive. I am obsessed with Vestal Virgins and they are a whole separate subject in their own right. Barbara Walker in the absolutely-must-own book – The Woman’s Encylopedia Of Myths & Secrets – has some excellent material on them. Pre-Christianity, there was not so much emphasis on their virginity, more on their independence. The rise of Christianity was not so kind to these ladies. HOWEVER, do not let me digress. The astrological Vesta shows where you have FIRE – a passionate, inexhaustible flame that burns within. An invincible Summer, your own little personal Sol Invictus. Never mind if your Vesta is in an Earth sign or whatever. Vesta is Fire. And Vesta in a Fire sign is particularly strong. You don’t let this flame flicker.So – a personal example – i have Vesta in Aries, on my Mercury and in my third house. I have always written. And i always have ideas. i trust that they will auto-regenerate. But (and this is an illustration of third house versus 9th house) I am drawn to multiple media + blogging but find finishing an actual book (writing or reading one lol) really difficult. Short courses or two hour workshops with loads of info fast appeal to me more than long courses. If I had Vesta in the 9th on Mercury, it would no doubt be the opposite. So Vesta is where you are strong, passionate and more or less devoted but that very Fire energy can really easy exasperate or threaten people who are weak in that area or do just don’t have Vesta/Fire there. Vesta vibe is where you independent as fuq – not in a reactive way – you just burn and everything is fuel for you. Vesta in synastry – between two charts – can be super-hot. We will do this more in depth when we do Composite Charts but the Composite Chart Vesta is your FLAME. You want twin flame action – to see if the fire between you will ignite? Look to the Composite Vesta. SO some examples. Ronda Rousey – the UFC fighter and until recently, champion – is Vesta on Mars in Aries. The Actor Jennifer Lawrence is also Mars-Vesta, albeit in Taurus. Note impassioned talk-outs on behalf of female actors and the wages (less than their male counterparts) they are paid. Totes Taurus/Mars/Vesta emphasis. Madonna is Vesta-Midheaven – well that flame keeps on a burning no matter what. Katherine Hepburn was Sun-Vesta – she did all kinds of pioneering shizz in her day. She also liked to have a lit fire or candle in any room. Brene Brown, the author and speaker, is Vesta in Cancer – the Power of Vulnerability indeed. She’s an emotional innovator on a huge scale. Again, notice how whatever comes at her becomes fuel for the growth of that sacred flame. Usain Bolt – the fastest man in the world ever – has Vesta in Aries on his North Node. How’s that for a literal interpretation. North Node in Aries pioneers the way most people breathe. Aries is fast. Vesta is flame. Cristiano Ronaldo is Vesta-Pluto in Scorpio and consistently one of the top ten most celebrated, highly paid and successful athletes in the world. Vesta-Pluto is like a fire burning in a vault. Vesta is devotion but not drippy, puppy-love devotion – Vesta is fierce and unyielding devotion. Watch Vesta by transit for more of an idea as to how Fire operates – right now Vesta is at 28 Pisces. So where is your Vesta? This is your elemental Fire. And, if you know how to do a Composite Chart, where is the Composite Vesta? That’s your Flame. Vesta is at the powerful Zero Aries point on December 4 – having spent since late March in Pisces/Aries. Watch your Vesta! This Vesta by transit! His Vesta! Her Vesta. The phrase “vested interest” and “invest” come from Vesta. And, you know what they say, never leave an open flame unattended.Interestingly, Vesta plays quite a powerful role in my major interpersonal relationships. In synastry alone: Mentor turned boyfriend: His Vesta conjunct my SN (0°) Mentor turned good friend: My Vesta conjunct his Mercury (1°) and Sun (3°) - also his Vesta forms the apex of a kite with my earth grand trine. Boss turned boyfriend: His Vesta conjunct my Saturn (0°) My father: My Vesta conjunct his Saturn (2°) and his Vesta conjunct my Mercury (4°) My mother: My Vesta conjunct her NN (4°) All of these people make me COME ALIVE and have inspired my psychological landscape in prominent ways. Vesta also shows itself as a big player in the respective composites for all these people. I do love all of these people selflessly, unconditionally, and want to protect them with a warrior-like fierceness (my Vesta in Aries) Anyways.. this is just a Vesta thought dump Feel free the extrapolate/share. Oh athena!! This us really mindblowing!!! I just noticed!! Your thread is from the 20th of Sept 2017, the day of our FMC!!!! Lol!!! Unbelievable!! lumina, whenever you have time, take a look if you could please!! Thank you!! 😍 😊 F@cking unbelievable!!!! 😂😂✌ Edit Not to mention this studying of Vesta started this autumn of 2017 athena and...wait for it, the same time I stsrted studying the runes , after finding stuff about Freya and Odin of course.. Can you believe the massive synchronicities here?? I am wondering what sign are you or if you have strong Vesta (I read about being in aries 3rd house, no clue if you tell this later lol) in tour chart. I am really curious about it or for the composite of the 2 of us with today, Lumina...old hhabits dont go away 😉😍✌
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Post by m2322 on Feb 24, 2018 18:46:39 GMT
Lastly I wanna emphasize the impact of Vesta and the patterns too. My mother has a mars vesta north node conjunction and her 2 children have : Me a Vesta opp. S/m midpoint and My brother vesta conj South Node (how more literal??? Mindblowing stuff really). I couldnt agree more about this description of devotion and a fiery one. This is what I gathered in my study of vesta and charts too. At least for the past months lol. I keep searching that as it interests me a lot. And lastly I feel that Vesta is warrior like no matter the sign. At least thats how I feel about my Vesta although its in Aqua. However it could also be due to vesta being opp S/m midpoint which is in Leo. So maybe thats why I feel her fiery side too lol 😂😂✌😍 Sorry for the many posts but I am constantly on my phone (dont have a laptop unfortunately lol - underpaid here) so I cant keep editing so easily. Thank u all and most of all Athena, hope I contributed somehow!
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Post by m2322 on Feb 24, 2018 20:57:27 GMT
Vesta is transiting exactly conjunct Mars today in Sagittarius. (17°) Great time for all this enthusiasm about Vesta, m2322 ! "My mother has a mars vesta north node conjunction and her 2 children have : Me a Vesta opp. S/m midpoint and My brother vesta conj South Node (how more literal??? Mindblowing stuff really)." Whoa...I love that! "And since I started noticing this pattern of Vesta around (I have pallas opp. Pholus after all lol), I ve been looking at all kinds of charts with a new eye and found that all people that had or have an impact iny life or I like them right away with no reason have strong Vesta in their chart, which is imo reasonable since I have vesta opp. S/M midpoint, which is pretty important after all.!! Even though I havent fully understood it of course!!" Very interesting. My Vesta trines your sun I guess I've been the same way with Hyperborea. You mentioned Freya and Odin....well...this is a whole other topic. Just musing that it's interesting how we all seem to arrive at our favorites, with asteroids. Oh is it?? I am.not surprised at all!! thanks for this !! For most of the time I look into transits (actually synastries and composites) with the moment everday, but its been really busy lately and have lost track! I remember you mentioning Hyperborea...funny synchronicity again..I mentioned this word in another context in a dialogue with my parents the day before yesterday..could you believe that Ava ? Lol...its a word that ancients used for the northern european countries and is used till today with a more general meaning, its greek after all..so what a coincidence..I havent studied the asteroid though.. So for Odin and Freya its the same time I started studying runes..Did you read the previous posts too? I am really so excited finding this diamond...and imagine that I am so thrilled that I havent really finished it yet..its too much to handle hahahha so many info and emotions at the same time! Lol "Very interesting. My Vesta trines your sun " No wonder. And no words. Lol. Just ❤💚💙💗💖💕💓💛💟
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