Vertex - "influx of fate"

[Ava]

Jewel's new video:



Notes:

* Vertex is the point of fated events, people, conditions. Things that we've a lot of times previously agreed to, and so it's the influx of fate, sometimes a wish fulfillment. Because the antivertex is where those lofty wishes go out, and the vertex is where they come in.
* Vertex is, by nature, unpredictable. That is its reason for being there. Astrologers can't know what's going to light it up. 
* It's wise to use the vertex as a point of confirmation after things have already occurred.
* It's not helpful to get excited about the vertex, if you look at it as a potential thing. Don't consider it a soulmate thing automatically. Vertex & concept of "twin flames" both often provide a satisfactory explanation for people who are blown away by someone and wonder what's going on. (Though it's probably actually Pluto, with a good dose of Neptune).

[Ava]

I'm surprised she didn't mention the nodal axis or draconic charts, I thought these all might go hand-in-hand.

My NN conjunct my husband's vertex
My vertex (rectified) conjunct my husband's draconic sun

[lumina]

I love your notes!


BTW I think Jewel is a good astrologer, but she is not right on every little detail. But in the case of the Neptune-Pluto-dose, oh I agree soo much. 

Vertex to me is what the name sais: a turning point, in this way it is an influx of fate, yes, something happens suddenly, often unexpected and it is making us pay attention, a turning point. 

For example I met P when my pr Mercury, pr Venus and natal Moon were all exactly conjunct on my progressed Antivertex (No, Avx is not less fated than Vertex, however we want to really define "fatedness"), and Tr Jupiter was conjunct my natal Antivertex. 

It is funny to me that currently my pr Mercury is conjunct my pr Antivertex again (applying to exactness), the reason is that Mercury slowed down and is going to go retro very soon in my progressions. 

Anyway meeting him was certainly unexpected and certainly a turning point. Which is basically how I interprete Vertex. It usually is different from the nodes and Dracos though, as these take more time and allow for a gradual development, and hence provide actual glue. The Vertex doesn`t do that, UNLESS there is glue in the connection already of course. 
But in some instances it is just descriptive of "one moment in time" (and afterwards everything is different, but it does not need to mean that the one who played catalyst for the Vertex-experience is going to share your life forever and ever; they could of course, if the synastry/ composite  is indicating this, but on its own Vertex doesn`t promise that). Having said that NN-Vertex connections seems to be highly fated and due to the nodal involvement lasting, and I think I once read that this is a sign of twinflames under certain circumstances (though I just mention it for the amusement-factor. It does not matter if it is a sign of whatever, more important to me is that both have to do with a certain meaningfulness and purpose and lifedirection)

[Violets]

Eh, you guys know how I am with astrology videos on YouTube (I have a strange aversion to them, and prefer to read my information for whatever reason).

My contribution here (thank you for the notes, Ava ) is:

My husband and I have Moon conjunct Vertex (he's the Moon, I'm the Vertex), trine my Moon and MC.

When we met, Pluto was transiting over my Vertex and his Moon.

His Vertex is trine my Venus and NN.
When we met, Uranus was conjunct my Venus and trine his Vertex and my NN. I think. It was going back and forth, anyway.

[lumina]

Violets

I prefer reading, too.

[lumina]

Ava

"Is it sudden because, in the chart, the Vertex moves so fast? It sounds Uranian...."
I think it does operate Uranian, yes.
It moves fast as it is a calculated point like the angles.
Vertex literally means "turning point", I mean the translation of the word.
Why it represents this, well I was listening to the astrologers coming before me and researching it.


I think that if the Vertex is being activated, it will make itself felt throughout a relationship yes, but there needs to be an activating factor. Like a strong transit or progression. Or synastric aspect.


The Vertex is actually the point where your DSC would be if you were born at the equator.
You take your MC and look up where the ASC would have been at zero latitude. That would give you the Antivertex.

[anela]

My dad's north node is conjunct my moon, Venus, south node, and vertex (vertex is wide, so I don't know if that counts). It opposed my mum's sun - so. Guess her sun was conjunct my anti-vertex.

[geminiblues]

Sept 21, 2017 12:35:15 GMT lumina said:

The Vertex is actually the point where your DSC would be if you were born at the equator.
You take your MC and look up where the ASC would have been at zero latitude. That would give you the Antivertex.

That's very interesting.

[geminiblues]

My take on it is that for some it's very important, others not so much unless activated by synastry. I feel to a certain extent that the node axis acts in the same way... kind of in the land of fuzzy generalities unless focused by a planet, be it natal, progressed, or in synastry.

My vertex is tightly conjunct Mercury, which is in turn the apex of a Tsquare. So the antivertex is the "missing wheel" as well, so for me, things happen when it gets touched. My ex put Venus there, my daughter, Uranus.

Same with my NN conjunct Venus, which also has geometry. A planet conjunct my SN (and Ceres) makes the double sextile point of a kite.

By observation, anecdotally, I don't think vertex or nodes play quite as strong of a role in others as they do for me, though I may not understand exactly where my NN is leading...

[lumina]

Yes calculated points need the energy of a planet they can intensify. For me vertex is exact conjunct eros and sun/moon MP and square chiron and conjunct Saturn by 4 degrees