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Aug 16, 2017 19:30:57 GMT
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Aug 16, 2017 20:39:50 GMT
Post by lumina on Aug 16, 2017 20:39:50 GMT
Pluto-Sun-Saturn as skipped step (square the nodal axis), yes.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:41:43 GMT
Post by lumina on Aug 16, 2017 20:41:43 GMT
synastrically Pluto-Saturn to Pluto-Mars, this stellium representing a skipped step, squaring the nodes, though I do not know with which orb.
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Aug 17, 2017 12:46:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 12:46:19 GMT
Thank you Ceri, i didnt notice skipped step. I notice pluto/saturn in my own synastries.
Thanks!
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Aug 17, 2017 13:08:59 GMT
Post by lumina on Aug 17, 2017 13:08:59 GMT
I am honest. I don`t like Pluto-Saturn in a composite, but it depends a bit on the overall. it does provide glue though (even though in some cases it might be more like a jail-sentence. lol), esp. if it is isolated (and not backed up by softer energies)
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Aug 18, 2017 10:51:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:51:26 GMT
Thanks Ceri, I guess it depends too on energies people are comfortable with. My synastry/composite with T involved saturn/pluto and although at the time things were very tough I think that relationship helped me evolve alot and helped in my spiritual development.
funny that my parents and myself all have pluto-saturn.
Pls dnt quote.
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Aug 18, 2017 11:36:13 GMT
Post by midnight on Aug 18, 2017 11:36:13 GMT
Could anyone please tell me, what exactly is a "skipped step"?
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Post by lumina on Aug 18, 2017 12:44:00 GMT
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Aug 18, 2017 13:45:54 GMT
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Post by midnight on Aug 18, 2017 13:45:54 GMT
Thanks for the links.
Well, my husband's NN is square my Saturn (2; 5HR) and Pluto (0; 4HR). I guess it's our glue, but we have more Saturn though, from my side.
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Aug 23, 2017 20:13:20 GMT
Post by FruityLlama on Aug 23, 2017 20:13:20 GMT
Sometimes I think the textbook house overlays can be enough for glue. 5th house sun double whammys in the synastry and some 7th house ones too guve the desire to be in a relationship and work on it full stop. And then there is the concentration on the 5th and 6th house in the composite. Thats pretty special imo
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Post by FruityLlama on Aug 23, 2017 20:15:39 GMT
but saturn is considered the glue planet because it represents determination to reap the rewards of all the hard work you put in. Its the planet of karma after all- reap what you sow and all that. Saturn can give structure and boundaries as well and in a relationship that can be the glue because it incites respect from each party
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 16:28:45 GMT
Composite wise they have Saturn in that stellium turning Jupiter. Saturn is also his 7th ruler if he's a cancer rising and she has 7th ruler aspecting his.
Saturn isn't just obligations, it is a direction, a plan. When you have some Saturn contact, the two people feel like they can see where the relationship is going, which encourages them to commit. We meet attractive individuals every day but we proceed with the people who are willing to look after us in the most difficult time, which is Saturn. Saturn grounds you too, so some relationships seem fun but Saturnian contacts encourage people to be disciplined, take up challenge, suck it up when the going gets rough. And so you feel this sense of security with Saturn contact because relationships are always hard work. Building a family, having children require hard work and discipline.
Obviously depending on the natal charts,some people can tolerate more or lessSaturn but Saturn even in the easy aspect encourages us to grow, to be critical. It sounds counterintuitive because Jupiter should've expansion and it is. Saturn isn't expansive in that sense but it builds, it's putting every brick down correctly so by the time you have a house, you know an earthquake won't even shake it up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 16:33:50 GMT
And yes to FruityLlama healthy relationships require boundaries. Now mariage is also an institution, which sounds really Saturnian to me and honestly we all know plenty of ppl who are stuck in marriage because Saturn is dutiful and slightly delusional, as in believing in this potentially secured future and sucking it up when it's not even worth it. Saturn means choosing the bumpy road, thinking it's worth it. It might not be, just saying. You see these traits in Saturnian or Capricorn (especially Cap moons) all the time.
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Sept 4, 2017 0:12:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 0:12:00 GMT
I just went through my database again and relationships/friendships that last also have composite charts that also reflect the natal charts.
For example, if you have a stellium in 8th or in 9th, you are more likely to be with someone who has stellium in 10th and 9th and have a composite that reflection the same life trajectory, even if the synastry has crazy squares, if the overall trajectory of the relationship fits the trajectory of your life then two people still sustain their connection for a long time.
For example, I have a stellium in 9th, a stellium in 10th so with people whose composite charts with me are heavy on the 7th and 5th, which by theories would seem so amazing for friendships/romance, I never proceed with these people because I am too individualist to balance anyone's need and I will break it off very early on just because I find the coordination of our shared actions and purpose too much of a hassle.
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