Moon conjunct Mercury in composite

[Ava]

Does anyone have experience with this one?

Do you think it could create an emotional attachment, just by itself? 

My thinking is, the emotions are more likely to get expressed, leading to more emotion, more expression, a cycle that builds momentum. Something the pair will keep going back to because that is inherently cathartic. 

That's just a loose theory.

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Ava , I have Sun conjunct Mercury, both 2 degrees away from the composite Asc and certainly communication is what drives the relationship forward - it is easy and there's plenty of it. We are in harmony in our world views and attitudes. With the Moon being conjunct Mercury, I would guess, as you say, the emotive elements may predominate.

It could be a deeply meaningful relationship, which is cathartic as you suggest, or could it also hold the potential to deteriorate into a co-dependent relationship?

[Ava]

Thank you for your thoughts, @astrokeen!

Your relationship sounds fun.

After I posted this I started to go through my astro-database looking for people with whom I have composite moon-Mercury.

I only found my brother...and it's in Pisces...and we hardly ever talk.

There's possibly another person, but I'm not positive if I remembered his birthday correctly.

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Aha! I found it in two pivotal relationships

My mother and I
Sign: Pisces
Orb: 5°
House: 8th

I feel like we have a typical mother/daughter relationship (in the most conventional  sense of the word) but people often commend us for our seemingly "good" relationship and claim they wish they had a similar relationship with their mother and/or daughter. Her and I butt heads constantly so whatever they're thinking is so pleasant between us is an illusion Obviously I love and adore her, but I can only take her in brief doses. We can be mindlessly chatty at our best. I don't think we have an intuitive understanding of each other. I'm usually humoring her in conversations between us.

First boyfriend and I
Sign: Aquarius
Orb: 1°
House: 6

Hard to describe. We talked a lot but never about anything of major substance (to me). Very loving and supportive relationship. Rarely ever came to the same conclusions about things but never had wild and angry disagreements at the same time. I remember I found it bizarre he always wanted to talk about the respective day we each had. I found that to be a pointless and dull topic. But chatting for him always built a closeness, and now I understand how important that is for others. I never felt particularly understood but I did feel very much loved unconditionally.

And that's it! I do have this aspect in synastry with an old classmate. There was a potent camaraderie there for sure - I chalk that aspect up to the fact we both found each other hilarious even if other people were baffled listening in at our inane sh*t

[Ava]

Thank you athena !

I think my theory must be wrong!

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[lumina]

this is the interpretation by Robert Hand (I copied it from the partner horoscope at astro.com, as Jude Law and me have an exact-Mercury conjunct in composite; of course I have no idea how it would play out, it is also part of a larger stellium, also including Venus, the nodal axis and with a bit more leeway Sun).

" The conjunction of the composite Moon and Mercury can contribute many strong and useful features to a relationship. Very simply, it means that the two of you can talk about your feelings instead of keeping them bottled up inside. The Moon conjunct Mercury may have two different kinds of effects.
If the lunar tendency triumphs, you will be able to discuss your emotional situations, but you will be very emotionally involved and subjective. On the other hand, you will really live and feel your emotions, so that something real is communicated between you.
If the mercurial tendency dominates, you will be more detached and rational but also less involved.
Obviously the best tactic with this aspect is to create some kind of balance between these two extremes."


I agree with that interpretation. If you put Moon and Mercury togehter you get a combination of the emotional, instinctual sphere and the rational, analytical one.
It can lead to communication and hopefully understanding about the emotions that are present in a relationship, but if it is losing its balance, it could also lead to being overly subjective and taking everything that is being communicated very personal, to an irrational degree even. ON the other hand it could also mean trying to rationalize and overanalyze the emotions in a relationship.

But what it definitely will do is bringing up an awareness and possibly communication about the emotional make-up of the connection.


However no single aspect can make or break a relationship, you always have to see what else is going on, but you knew I`d say that, right?


Personally I don`t think that this aspect alone can cause an emotional attachment; it is more about emotional awareness and communication. It is probably more likely that these people get attached to their shared thoughts, way to communicate and exchange of thoughts and ideas, as Moon can get attached to something, Mercury not very likely so, so Moon representing attachment, would get attached to the Mercurial side or feeling emotional about it, but that is actually more some kind of intellectual attachment, however as this is a shared horoscope, the mercurial side being emotionalized for both of them. this could pave the ground for some feeling of attachment, but only if other things come into play. In particular overlays to the natal chart. If someone`s Venus-Pluto-conjunction was falling onto that, yes then there would be a high chance that person would be getting attached and even obsessed with the way emotions are communicated in that relationship.


As for Draconic charts, I don´t think it can be transferred in a 1:1 way, even though there are common traits of course, but we always have to keep in mind that the Draconic planets always carry a nodal notion with it.

So if it is your Draco Mercury connecting to someone else`s Moon it is actually Mercury-Node to Moon, possibly indicating that the instinctual emotional expression of the one person is activating that growth potential of your Mercury. like you feel you have to learn something in terms of communication or communication skills and the other person by effortlessly and without thinking expressing certain qualities push you a bit into that direction.
Of course probably the result in an every day context will be similiar, as you will simply enjoy talking to them, about their feelings etc, to learn more about why they react the way they do, how they perceive the world etc.
But the difference is that once the Dracos are stimulated, there is a greater sense of meaningfulness and purpose, a "that`s where I want to go and what I want to develop" involved, while if that is happening in tropical, it is just that natural kinship and curiosity on both sides that pushes them into that kind of communication. Not unlike the exchange of children btw, (both Moon and MErcury have a natural relation to being childlike, because of their basic curiosity and innocence and just "being in the moment", be it from an emotional or instinctual sphere or a playful, experimental, discovering one).


* btw keep in mind the sign background, communication does not have to be VERBAL, in fact with Moon-Mercury a lot can be said and communicated without actually using words. Body language, other emotional kind of communication etc. 

I suppose a Moon-Mercury in Gemini will prefer to talk a lot, but a Moon-Mercury in Capricorn or Pisces, probably not so much. The Cappy version might make just very necessary words, but these are important. And Pisces might more or less communicate telepathically with each other. Or develope a weird kind of language between them, almost like a code. 


Also Moon-Mercury does not always have to be very deep, depending on what kind of Moon we are dealing with. Sometimes it can be awfully superficial, especially if Mercury gets the upper hand and trivializes the emotional connection. 

[lumina]

"It's misleading to say "Faith likes this" when I LOVE it. "
Haha. Thank you. 



"How did you know??"
I didn`t. Well you mentioned the composite, but somehow I had the synastry in mind.
However I realized then later on that of course my own Draco Moon is opposing P`s n Mercury (but on my NN). so basically his Mercury opposes my Draco Moon on my n SN. So I guess there is some Moon-Mercury-factor at play there, but unlike the scenario I painted it has more something to do with my emotional path/ growth, but then again my Draco Moon is in Gemini, so there you go, I suppose. lol

I`ve also come to see another fascet of oppositions, as they relate to the full moon phase, it is not only about the culmination or being polar opposite or distant (though all of these can figure in, esp. the culmination/ completion factor), but what we might underestimate is its power of illumination more strongly than in the conjunction, even because there is more distance involved (but in the case of opposition on a direct line, enhancing that magnetism. For magnetism to be felt you do need two objects with opposite polarity in a certain distance from each other, to feel that inherent magnetic tension, if they are getting close they simply are glued together, possibly the conjunction).

So in my very personal case I`d say it might be something like how his way to communicate with me (my Mars-ASC are involved too of course), is pulling me forwards on my path (on my NN), but at the same time that very kind of communication or exchange is illuminating and heighten my awareness of my deeply ingrained (my SN) emotional needs (Draco Moon) for how to communicate (Draco Moon in Gemini). It`s kinda cool that it is the dispositor of my Draco Moon, that is making the aspect from his chart. 
The aspect is not unbearably close though (2-3 degrees), and well his Draco Chiron is sitting on his tropical Mercury, so who knows how he experiences that really? 




"I guess it's like acknowledging something is there by the way you both tiptoe around it and don't acknowledge it."
Yes, sounds pretty Neptunian.



"That's another element that pertains here....how do you do this??? Why am I so lucky, to get such a good response? "
Haha, I just had that image in my mind all of a sudden of Moon and Mercury as two children, Moon being the more emotional of the two, Mercury being more mobile in a way, moving here and there, both being very curious about each other and the world. Moon maybe from a more emotional place, and Mercury just wanting to understand the world around them, including Moon. Just two children discovering the world and possibly shaping it together. you know how children can do that just with the way they see magic in the world, the power of their own imagination. 

Maybe it was also influenced a bit by the Moon-Mercury-conjunction that exists in P`s and my synastry. Maybe it`s getting a bit much at times for him, he`s Moon in the equation and while Mercury`s curiosity and interest in Moon`s emotional life might be flattering and inspiring to a certain degree, sometimes it might feel a tad too close, especially for a man. Like he`s becoming transparent or something like that, and Mercury might sometimes not realize if she hit a vulnerable spot in Moon, because Mercury doesn`t really judge, but just gathers information saying: Wow, how interesting! Tell me more about the emotional trauma you`ve experienced in high school, let`s analyze it together, that should be fun or at least interesting. 

Sometimes Mercury might be a bit oblivious as to how emotional Moon can really be, and that there are maybe things that are not meant to be put onto full display and making Moon feel insecure; but chances are Mercury is really oblivious to it, because of the lack of judgement or emotionalism. 

(well in this example it might be exarberated because P`s Saturn squares it; the internal emotional pressure must be quite difficult for him sometimes, but my Mercury is pretty unafflicted, just a conjunction to Sun, and of course the parallel to Venus, anyway getting a bit distracted here, that is not about us. lol)