Planets on the angles

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Hopefully that makes sense and hopefully I'm not sounding like some kind of know-it-all.

I'm practicing more Vedic astrology now so some things I do view differently. Such as asc. I see that much differently than I used to.

[midnight]

@vikalata did you go back to your "recorded" tob? Re: comment about Asc/Pluto

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Jul 4, 2017 22:01:23 GMT midnight said:

@vikalata did you go back to your "recorded" tob? Re: comment about Asc/Pluto

Yes. 
I discovered something called "Rodden Rating System". www.astro.com/astro-databank/Help:RR
It's not the end-all, final word, of course. However, It is widely accepted. 
Lois Rodden said about rectification: 
To paraphrase - "Rectification may very well turn out to be a viable and accurate way to arrive at a time of birth. There are no standards in place to show exactly how rectification should be done. So there are multiple astrologers who all perform rectification a little differently and all would claim that their method is absolutely accurate."
So, I've obviously gone back and forth in the recent past but this is where I've ended up, back where I started. 
There is a place for rectification though with birth time is unknown. I've also seen that word of mouth time can really be very inaccurate sometimes. My wife's mother was 7 hours off, which we discovered after getting a recorded time from the state. Not only did that move angles, obviously, but also moved her moon 5 degrees, which is quite a difference! 

[midnight]

Violets , btw thanks for this topic. It is hard to find info online. When Im searching for "Venus opposite Dcs" I get results for "Venus conjunct Asc" instead

[Violets]

midnight, I know, right?!

Interpretations would be nice for the opposition aspects of planets on the angles, lol.

[anela]

Uranus conjunct ascendant, I'm mostly "live and let live" but I'm self-protective, too. Uranus rules my 4th house, and I like company, and a good kind of busy, but don't like being forced to interact. I have had physical (anxious, angry) reactions to certain people being under the same roof, based on their treatment of me in the past - or that of a family member or friend. 

[rietje1]

Bumping up an old thread

I think so, yeah. I have 4 planets on my IC (Saturn and Neptune tightly, Moon and Uranus more loosely), Jupiter and Chiron on my MC, and then Venus parallel the DSC exact and man do I feel the conflict sometimes. Especially with the MC/IC axis.

When I'm out, I'm happy, funny, I like being social and friendly and when comfortable, I can be just super chatty and fun. Probably the Jupiter on the MC. Cancer makes me just be caring towards others, same with Chiron - I've noticed that consistently, when someone needs help, they'll ask me, not the 40+ others walking around on the street or on the bus or what not. In professional settings too. I just like creating a nice environment and love things like making the workplace/classroom/etc cozy and nice with some drinks, snacks, etc.

But then at home, I'm just exhaaaaausted and just want to chill. I actually don't really talk much over the phone or internet, I just watch and read things. of course when I'm with others I love switching things up though and like again making myself and everyone feel at home. But I'm definitely more reserved and prefer to also just work on something (very Cappy!). I've also sadly experienced the opposite - whenever I'd want to hang out with and have fun with then-roommates, they would just not want to hang out with me and only interested in just watching TV or something ugh. And in a professional setting when I would not feel well and want to just breeze through the day with the little energy I had, I'd constantly be approached by people chatting my ear off, etc.

Seems like when I act out the Cancer - I get Cap responses from others, and verce visa.

Don't know really what Venus could mean. I think it definitely makes me very keen on being liked and I relate to a lot of Venus in the 7th house/Libra Sun or Venus descriptions. But it's also supposed to be qualities I project or still need to own.

[Ava]

Rie, rietje1, I'm just ecstatic that you're here!!

"Seems like when I act out the Cancer - I get Cap responses from others, and verce visa."

Such an interesting observation, and so fitting for your chart.

"I just like creating a nice environment and love things like making the workplace/classroom/etc cozy and nice with some drinks, snacks, etc."

I've always loved people like this.

[rietje1]

Haha that axis just overlaps a lot. I guess having that much of the Cap-Cancer axis in my chart does that to you.

Hmm I'm still thinking about that angular Venus. Still relate to it a lot mentally & emotionally, but I'm trying to think of how I meet it in other people. I do really love the traditional feminine look so maybe just appreciating when others look put-together. I tend to be the one who gives specific compliments and stuff.

[enneline]

Ah, that’s for me here.

I have sun on my asc (cancer). I can come across as strong and soft in the same time.

Pluto in libra on IC is a prove for my troubled childhood.

Moon in aries is very widely conjunct my MC in aries – I show my heart to the world hahaha. No, I think that in combination with my sun conj asc is a prove that you can read my thoughts on my face and everyone knows if I like him or not

[clementine]

Bumping up this thread again

I think planets conjunct points always cause some tension for the opposite point, and create a kind of magnetic pull for the shadow side of that experience. Not in a doomy way, just in a blind spot way—Like, what are the consequences of being so concentrated around one energy in one place? What gets imbalanced?

For me, I've got Neptune on the AC and I mostly feel it as extreme sensitivity—I'm highly sensitive to feelings, colors, sounds, textures, etc. Sometimes this has been debilitating, but right now it feels much more like a strength. I used to think everyone was this way! I can tell what most people are feeling when they walk into a room. The ones that are more guarded, I can start to see the shape of what they're hiding as we talk, like something under a sheet that I can see the edges of.

How this plays out as an opposition to my DC is like this: My own extreme sensitivity has sometimes become so overwhelming that I can't even focus on anyone else or understand their experiences. I get trapped in Neptune and it's like there is no outside, no other perspectives. Only this swirling chaos of impressions and possibilities that are kind of removing me from my own life and agency. You can imagine how this plays out in a relationship! I've been accused of "disappearing" a lot, when I'm with someone physically, or I have a tendency to merge with them to the point that I've started to love what they love / dislike what they dislike (even if it's something I love). I've been working on this though, and lately what I usually have to watch out for is my tendency to idealize someone I barely know because my gut tells me they're amazing. Neptune opposite the DC is a little like being on club drugs when you meet someone you like—they become the most beautiful person you've ever seen, you have infinite faith in their potential and good intentions, there are no real obstacles to some immediate blissful union. Knowing this doesn't change it—you can know you're on drugs and still really feel what's happening as real.

I've also got Pluto on my MC, and this has been energizing for my career but a little disastrous for my home life. My take on Pluto opposite IC is this:

It's exciting that I get to keep changing what I do for a living and reinventing myself professionally. I love going deep with clients, I love working on trauma patterns, I love the truths we uncover when we're brave. I feel 100% committed to doing Plutonian healing work in some form for the rest of my life. AND I am heartbroken about all the homes I've lost over the years, beginning with the family home we lost when I was a teenager because my dad couldn't pay the mortgage anymore. I've been attached to so many homes I thought I would get to stay in longer, and devastated each time I had to say goodbye to one. Same with chosen family. So, Pluto conjunct MC is the excitement about change I get to pursue, but Pluto opposite IC is the pain of not getting to hold onto any of the places or families that would help me root down.

I'd love to hear more stories if anyone else wants to revive this thread with me!

[Violets]

Wow. clementine, that is fantastic insight. It will give me more to think on with my Uranus/IC conjunction, as well as my Mercury Dsc conjunction.

[lumina]

clementine

We share the Neptune conjunct ASC/ Pluto conjunct MC-pattern. 
I can identify to a large degree with your description of Neptune; not quite as much with Pluto on MC, I`ve only moved once during my childhood (just 30 kilometres or so). I wonder however if it might be also indicative of anchestral stuff. As both my grandparents have been exiled so to speak and had to flee from their homes in Eastern Germany/ Poland (well today it is Poland, back then it was a part of Germany) and had quite an odysee until being able to settle down, maybe it was transferred through the genetic code, that feeling I mean, even though factually I did not move that much (once during my childhood and I think twice or three times in later years, and actually never far from home.   )

[FruityLlama]

I will add that I have Neptune closely opposing my ASC in the 7th house. I think this adds to my sensitivity that Cancer ASC brings anyway and I get quite spacey too. I basically agree with the above descriptions of Neptune-ASC.

I have a Pisces MC to boot, but with Saturn conjunct so people do see me as.. I don't even know and I think thats the neptunian influence, but saturn gives me stability with people too and a feeling of right and wrong. Its exactly trine my ASC.

I am not a neptunian person overall though, I'm more lunar, but what I do think about having a touch of Neptune on my angles, specifically Neptune in 7th is that I tend to reflect people a lot. I pick up on their mannerisms, accent etc so much and sometimes I will feel like Im morphing into them- could this be Neptune in 7th??
It feels horrible when the person opposite me is really bouncy and energetic- its like a human caffeine rush hahah!