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Post by Violets on May 24, 2017 0:48:07 GMT
My brother in-law is, reluctantly, a medium as well as slightly clairvoyant/psychic. His daughter is more so, and is just now talking about it or realizing it (she's nine years old and a Scorpio Sun/Rising).
Her dad isn't very involved in her life, as he copes with his abilities and also his emotional sensitivity with substances (prayers and positive energy for him are definitely welcome). As he hasn't been able to master his own abilities and she is primarily not interested in having much to do with him, he's not really qualified to teach her how to protect herself, or how to best address her abilities.
She and I talk a lot, as she comes over with my mother in-law every couple of months or so for the weekend. I have tendencies and abilities, but I am in no way qualified to teach her how to use her gift or protect herself from negative or harmful spirits. Neither is my mother in-law, although I suspect that she will try, but her advice is often rather Pollyanna to me, and I don't believe that she actually understands how dangerous it can be to simply assume that one can make spirits leave by just saying "Go away". Some do, some don't in my experience.
I advised her to buy my niece some black tourmaline and sage, and teach her how to use it, and I wrote down some prayers for her that I use myself when trying to clear out negative energy or even spirits. That was the best I could do, and I'm having a hard time finding mediums who work with children, even in the large city they live in.
Input or suggestions? Especially from those who have contended with such abilities as kids, but from anyone with ideas or knowledge as well. 💖
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Post by whisperix on May 25, 2017 16:00:11 GMT
Interesting. I raise two Scorpios(=5planets and AC in Scorpio).
Well. Both of them read a book before they fall asleep. I told my daughter that she can always call upon Charly(=dead cat) to assist her. Sometimes I was in her dreams and told her how to handle the world of energy. I paid an energy healer to assist my son, because he does not want me to be his teacher. My daughter needs the element of water to "wash away" everything and my son needs to dig a hole to "bury the things".
I guess a journey like this remains individual and I am not good with an advice.
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 5:18:51 GMT
Thank you for responding, whisperix. I know it's kind of a strange request as far as a thread goes, I'm just concerned for her. It appears that she hasn't been told much about her gift, or anything along those lines--not much, anyway. Now that she's noticing that she can see human spirits, and they appear to actively present themselves to her the way they do with her dad, I want her to be able to handle her gift. I think I will maybe see if my energy healer has any suggestions. ❤
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 10:07:04 GMT
Violets , it must be very worrying for a parent if they can't see what the child is seeing or being subjected to. if we have guides around us, your niece should be able to see them too, and hopefully, they will offer advice and protection (?). I often wonder why these guides don't intercede when people get attacked by astral entities. If her dad is a medium, he seems to be in a good position to get advice from the other side. He could ask how she is to be protected, couldn't he?
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Post by enneline on May 26, 2017 11:31:30 GMT
what exactly is the problem? I don't understand it really
I think if she foresees things, one should tell her that it's never, and i stress out never, her fault if things are really going to evolve the way she had seen it before. Many struggle with guilt feelings in my experience.
Also, it is important to keep humility. She is not special in any way. She is special like everyone else is a special individual.
And someone should teach her, that her gifts are for others primarily, not for herself.
Very important in my opinion: never make a prediction for anyone when not being asked. Some want to make the experience you saw ahead, so don't steal the experiences. You can ask if someone wants to know but don't make someone crazy by issuing unasked warnings. Also, most would just get angry on her or even charge her.
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Post by enneline on May 26, 2017 14:04:57 GMT
ah, i think now i get it in my experience: if one has come to terms with his talent, and doesn't feel guilty, superior or anxious about it, the negative energies have no chance to attack you for your talent
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 15:55:47 GMT
Violets , it must be very worrying for a parent if they can't see what the child is seeing or being subjected to. if we have guides around us, your niece should be able to see them too, and hopefully, they will offer advice and protection (?). I often wonder why these guides don't intercede when people get attacked by astral entities. If her dad is a medium, he seems to be in a good position to get advice from the other side. He could ask how she is to be protected, couldn't he? Her situation with her parents is complicated. She has decided that she doesn't want any contact with her dad, because he has serious substance abuse issues right now, and literally doesn't show up for her in her life. We don't see him, and I'm not sure how concerned he is about her abilities, or if he even knows the extent of them. He doesn't see or hear Guides, unfortunately. Not that I'm aware of. I think if he could, he would have gotten a grip on his own abilities instead of trying to numb them with drugs. Not sure about her mom either, as we don't really talk to her. Her parents are separated, and it's her dad who is my husband's brother. From what I gathered when I talked to her about it, she hasn't been taught much about anything regarding abilities or smudging, how to pray, nothing. So I'm guessing that her mom is maybe somewhat clueless. I also wonder why guides and angels don't intervene on our behalf more often, but I think one rule Guides are supposed to abide by is that they don't intervene, they only offer guidance if we're open and listening. From what I've been told, anyway. So I feel like it's up to me and her grandmother (my mother in-law) to help her, but I don't see her that often. I sent a link to my mother in-law for a woman who does reiki and can also speak to our guides, but it's expensive and her response was that she had just got my message and was exhausted after work. My suspicion is that my mother in-law doesn't really want me involved in this, as she is very close to my niece, so I'm guessing she feels that she should be the one to facilitate these things--but I don't believe that she has enough knowledge to do that of her own accord. At all. The problem there is that she probably thinks that she does, which to me is dangerous. Anyway...rambling, need more coffee, lol.
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 16:27:03 GMT
ah, i think now i get it in my experience: if one has come to terms with his talent, and doesn't feel guilty, superior or anxious about it, the negative energies have no chance to attack you for your talent Yes, that's sort of what I would like to help her to do--come to terms with it, and learn how to use it as it's intended, however that may be. But as I mentioned, I don't feel equipped to do that by myself, as I'm no medium (although I do notice spirits, but I have my own challenges when it comes to protecting my energy, so I wouldn't be a good teacher). She is a little scared, or in her words "freaked out" about these "ghosts" that she sees. She saw a grey man coming towards her, looking down, and she said that he had a circle around his head, and she felt that the circle was not something good. Then he disappeared. This was in our yard, where I feel spirits fairly regularly (I'm sure they're everywhere, I just notice them without seeing them). She came inside, and didn't want to go back outside after that. My mother in-law went to see some psychic at a local new age bookstore, and the "psychic" told her that the grey guy she saw was Jesus. *cue eyeroll* So my mother in-law was all happy, and had forgotten that my niece had said that the guy was grey, not white (another one she had seen at the foot of her bed was a guy who was all white, just sitting at the end of her bed looking at her). So I was kind of annoyed, like if it was Jesus, why wouldn't she have felt peaceful and not afraid, and why would he have been looking down, not at her, etc. Anyway, I think that I'll just have to figure out how I can do my part for her without getting my mother in-law's feathers ruffled, and find someone who can teach her properly. It's harder because we're separated by a few hours' travel, and I don't talk to her mom or even her dad much, if ever. But I do feel that my concerns are valid, as I don't want to see her try to deal with her abilities the way that her father has, and I do believe she needs someone to actually teach her about them. A difficult situation, but I do feel that she should have some guidance!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 16:46:01 GMT
Just wondering if your husband might have a say with his mother to make her realise that unless your niece gets guidance, there is a danger for her to follow in her dad's footsteps.
Re guides - yes we've heard that they can't intervene but the realm of the spriit is their domain and they should be able to get reassurring messages across, about her seeking advice, or that prayer is a good thing. The choice will still be her's. Doreen virtues' books try make us believe that angels are always standing guard and won't let the unsuspecting come to harm. Makes one wonder!
Do you have your niece's birth time? It would be interesting to see her chart and check if angels are prominent.
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Post by enneline on May 26, 2017 16:47:03 GMT
I don't know anything about spiritual guidance since i (rarely) don't see them and never really experienced it (in dreams only) but i am a bit in touch/experienced with angels. What i for sure know is, that everyone has a guardian angel and so does she. maybe one day you will be able to tell her to call her guardian angel for protection? She could see him as well i guess.
I am very very sceptical towards many so-called psychics about spiritual guides. Sorry but in my opinion most of those so-called "spiritual guides" are ghosts and spirits who either make fun of you or you just don't understand them; i even saw and heard devastating stories about spiritual guides. people who believed they were talking to a spiritual guide, were in real talking to a ghost (deceased person) or a creature (not nice spirit) that wants anything but guiding you. Apart from the fact that most of those spiritual guides talk bullsh*t , they work with fear and anxiety.
If i were you, i would tell my niece that she never needs to worry, a guardian angel lives right next to her and since she is not that little any longer, he already accepts her free will. She just needs to call him and ask him to help and protect her.
Also, i would tell them that those ghosts and creatures can't harm her. They have no materialized body, they are not able to really harm her, even though some might pretend they could. it's not true
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 16:51:39 GMT
I'll add that my niece has no idea of what Guides are, wasn't familiar with anything other than what my mother in-law has taught her, which is about God and angels. That's fine, but as her mother is an atheist (also fine), she doesn't really have any way of getting any input other than "tell them to go away, and ask your guardian angel for help". I feel that's a bit simplistic for what she's experiencing, but maybe that will work. It would help if she knew more about all of that though, I think. Even to know more about God and angels! It's a frustrating situation for me, and perhaps none of my business, but I don't feel comfortable just sitting here knowing that she should have some help to really come to terms with her abilities and protect herself, and not try to do what I can. :/
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 16:52:14 GMT
Oops, I responded before I read your posts, @astrokeen and enneline. Lol.
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 17:02:49 GMT
I don't know anything about spiritual guidance since i (rarely) don't see them and never really experienced it (in dreams only) but i am a bit in touch/experienced with angels. What i for sure know is, that everyone has a guardian angel and so does she. maybe one day you will be able to tell her to call her guardian angel for protection? She could see him as well i guess. I am very very sceptical towards many so-called psychics about spiritual guides. Sorry but in my opinion most of those so-called "spiritual guides" are ghosts and spirits who either make fun of you or you just don't understand them; i even saw and heard devastating stories about spiritual guides. people who believed there were talking to a spiritual guide, were in real talking to a ghost (deceased person) or a creature (not nice spirit) that wants anything but guiding you. Apart from the fact that most of those spiritual guides talk bullsh*t , they work with fear and anxiety. If i were you, i would tell my niece that she never needs to worry, a guardian angel lives right next to her and since she is not that little any longer, he already accepts her free will. She just needs to call him and ask him to help and protect her. Also, i would tell them that those ghosts and creatures can't harm her. They have no materialized body, they are not able to really harm her, even though some might pretend they could. it's not true I was nodding my head in agreement with a lot of that. I've also experienced nasty spirits or entities who would have had me believe they were my guides. I do believe that we have Guides, but I also believe that unpleasant spirits or entities will capitalize on that belief if they can, or have the opportunity to do so. My mother in-law, to her credit, has taught my niece about her guardian angel. She believes it is her great-grandmother, who recently passed (my mother in-law believes guardian angels are only our family members *shrug*). So maybe that is a good way to keep her going, enneline. I've been harmed spiritually by entities as well as human spirits, because they've either attacked me in my sleep, or actually attached to me. It's hard to explain that, but I can tell when something has connected to me that shouldn't be there, and they're difficult for me to get rid of. They can influence our thoughts and therefore our actions, from what I have "seen", but I think there needs to be a lot of darker emotions present in us for them to be able to get in to do so. I've struggled with those types of emotions, so I can sometimes be an easy target, unfortunately. As my niece comes to grips with her disappointment, hurt, and anger with her father, and is also coming of age so to speak (if you get my meaning), I feel that she is a bit vulnerable right now. But your advice regarding her guardian angel is good. Thank you. <3
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Post by enneline on May 26, 2017 17:07:11 GMT
yes, sure, someone would need to tell her about angels and the creation. but sure, if she doesn't believe in angels, it's hard to tell her to ask for one. In my case this simplistic approach had helped me, yes keeping it simple
oh, i wish i could be there. i have been there and maybe my experiences could help her
what i would have wished when i was a child would have been: tell me that those creatures can't harm me, i am not bad myself just because i can see them and sometimes the fear disappears after a while and/or after asking "who are you?"
Also, she doesn't need to see those creatures. If she tells them to f*ck off, i mean to go away, they probably will go away
+ just because she is afraid, doesn't mean they are really bad BUT she should go for her guts. Maybe she realizes that some creatures and ghosts just talk and do bullsh*t.
I have never been afraid of an angel, that is why i was referring to angels since in my experience they don't cause any anxieties and if they do, the anxieties vanish after some seconds. Sure, some angels are not those little cupids we know but huge and formidable and redoubtable but that huge respect is not frightening and has nothing to do with anxieties
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 17:12:01 GMT
yes, sure, someone would need to tell her about angels and the creation. but sure, if she doesn't believe in angels, it's hard to tell her to ask for one. In my case this simplistic approach had helped me, yes keeping it simple oh, i wish i could be there. i have been there and maybe my experiences could help her what i would have wished when i was a child would have been: tell me that those creatures can't harm me, i am not bad myself just because i can see them and sometimes the fear disappears after a while and/or after asking "who are you?" Also, she doesn't need to see those creatures. If she tells them to f*ck off, i mean to go away, they probably will go away + just because she is afraid, doesn't mean they are really bad BUT she should go for her guts. Maybe she realizes that some creatures and ghosts just talk and do bullsh*t. I have never been afraid of an angel, that is why i was referring to angels since in my experience they don't cause any anxieties and if they do, the anxieties vanish after some seconds. Sure, some angels are not those little cupids we know but huge and formidable and redoubtable but that huge respect is not frightening and has nothing to do with anxieties Omg, I completely agree with (almost) all of that! And thank you for telling me what you wish someone would have told you. That is helpful, and I will tell her in case she has doubts. I've tried to tell them to go away, but I've found that they often don't. But I have a lot of anxiety around them, so perhaps that needs to be addressed for me. My husband can get rid of them easier than I can (well, entities anyway...I seem to be the one who can actually send human spirits away if I can get a moment of quiet to work what I need to work). She DOES believe in angels, so I think you're right...focus on that, she finds comfort in it and wishes her mom would take her to church.
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 17:15:50 GMT
@astrokeen, I wish that my husband were as interested in helping her as I am, but he isn't that way. He has his abilities, but isn't as focused in that world as I am, he's a bit less tuned in by choice, I believe. He probably just figures that she'll get it sorted out for herself.
I do have her birth time, and her chart. I'll post it in a bit when I have more time... Boy, something must be hitting my 4th/5th house NN, or doing something in my 5th house, because I've been very concerned with helping children who aren't my own lately, lol. But my own son needs help as well right now, coming to terms with a baby brother who is getting more attention from other family members who seem to be rather clueless as to how hurtful that can be to the older child.
Be back in a bit, I do need to see to that oldest boy and spend some quality time with him while the baby sleeps. <3
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Post by enneline on May 26, 2017 17:21:24 GMT
in my experience: if ghosts or creatures don't go away after telling them they must, they are stucked in your aura/energy field. That happenes due to anxieties in your aura. so i wouldn't tell her that, she might become too afraid of it. Maybe it would help her to tell her about angels or that she can ask them what they want (after telling her that they can't harm her body, yes stucked in her aura maybe but i think its better not to tell her about that)?
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 17:53:35 GMT
Ah thank you, enneline. This is exactly what I was hoping for. Yes, they do get "stuck", or attached to my energy field, as I do have a lot of anxiety around them. And I carry some crappy energy sometimes that I have to clear out periodically. Yes, I've been wondering what all I should tell her at her age. Maybe my mother in-law is right with what she's telling her?
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Post by enneline on May 26, 2017 18:05:14 GMT
yes, but guardian angels are for god's sake not deceased family members. I am not god but this is what i definitely know. I think that would confuse her, maybe she would even reject angels the sooner or later if she assumes they are ghosts.
I would tell her that you also feel them and that you know me who also sees them and that she is not crazy and that she only needs her special guardian angel. She would recognize him and he could make those creatures either go away or help her to overcome her anxieties. Also, she could also ask those creatures what they want. Seriously, that helps sometimes. Sometimes maybe its just a ghost but due to her anxieties & fantasy she thinks its something else.
Though i don't know how to tell her that without risking to make your mother in law look bad
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Post by Violets on May 26, 2017 23:53:05 GMT
Crap, I started to reply to this, and then got sidetracked...and I thought I had replied, lol. Well. Anyway, I copied what I had on here as a response. ---------------- enneline , hahahaha. Yes, I would think that the hard belief that they're ALWAYS deceased family members might be...not always accurate, lol. But that's just me, heh. And yeah, it's tricky because my mother in-law went to a psychic once, so she thinks she knows a lot about this type of thing (and reads whatever on the internet or in books, etc). It is a tricky thing, trying to be diplomatic and inoffensive about it! And she's here this weekend without my niece, but I feel that my oldest needs attention more right now, so I may not even get around to talking to her much about it. It's a good point to sometimes ask what they want, eh? I never do that, because they bother me/upset me/freak me out. So that could easily be off-putting to a human spirit who just has something they need to get off their chest or whatever, I suppose. Sometimes, I feel so comfortable around them due to similar energies that I believe they end up following me because of that. I sort of don't mind it, but likewise don't feel that it's necessarily healthy, so I try to send them on their way. I also forget that they can't always read our thoughts. Probably rarely, realistically. She's a strong girl emotionally so far, but as I mentioned...a lot of disruption in her life right now, and from my personal experience I know those emotional disruptions at a young age can affect how confident we are in the real world, let alone this type of thing. Thanks so much for your advice. The more I know, the more I can pass on. I'll try to post her chart later, @astrokeen . I'm sure that my mother in-law will want to know what advice has been given, at any rate. I'll pass it on, for sure. Well, without offending her...
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