Case Study: The Astrology of Integrity

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"[The] Untouchables were special agents of the U.S. Bureau of Prohibition led by Eliot Ness, who, from 1930 to 1932, worked to end Al Capone's illegal activities by aggressively enforcing Prohibition laws against his organization. Legendary for being fearless and incorruptible, they earned the nickname "The Untouchables" after several agents refused large bribes from members of the Chicago Outfit"

Source: This Wiki page (it has links to further sources)

Of the people involved, I was only able to get birth data for nine:

1. Eliot Ness
2. Joseph D. Leeson, an expert driver with the specialty of tailing.[1]: 318 
3. Lyle B. Chapman, a former Colgate University football player and investigator.[1]: 318–319 
4. Samuel Maurice Seager, a former Sing Sing death row corrections officer.[1]: 235–236, 317 
5. Paul W. Robsky, a pilot and daring raider from South Carolina. (He later collaborated with Oscar Fraley, as Ness had on The Untouchables before him, on The Last Of The Untouchables, a heavily fictionalized account of the Capone investigation.)[1]: 355, 608–610
6.  Martin J. Lahart, a close friend of Ness's from Chicago, who had worked with him on previous investigations.[1]: 125, 163–164, 235–239 
7. Bernard V. "Barney" Cloonan, a muscular Irish agent known for his strength and investigative experience.[1]: 328 
8. Carl Hambach, the last "Untouchable" prohibition agent to retire. A 38 year veteran who gained the nickname "Mr Alcohol Tax", and was the agent who put Capone onboard the train to Alcatraz.[5]
9. Al "Wallpaper" Wolff, a Chicago Prohibition agent who only served under Ness after the investigation was largely over.[1]: 483 [8]

Source: This Wiki page (it has links to further sources)

I thought it would be interesting to look at their charts and see what makes them tick. Of course, this is not to be interpreted as an exhaustive study of 'integrity' in astrology - not least because that would be controversial in itself. The observations will be outlined below and may be revised depending on what I find. Please add your thoughts and comments.

*Note: I'm adding their charts in a compressed format so they'll all fit.

Attachments:

UT_natal_charts.zip (901.73 KB)

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Hypothesis: Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto must feature prominently. Signs: Libra, Sag, Scorpio, Virgo. 

Observations: 

• This whole cohort has Pluto and Neptune in Gemini (with the exception of two Cancer Neptunes). It is worth noting that Al Capone has both retrograde in Gemini, opposing his Saturn-MC. But he also has Cancer Mars and there's more to his chart.
    o It can be surmised that Pluto in Gemini has a great need to problem solve and may deal with compulsive thoughts. Plutonian willpower is brought to uncovering the right 'information' at any cost.
    o "Pluto in Gemini asks, "What do we really know?" Individuals born under these astrological skies are here to force the collective to reconsider accepted facts and knowledge. They burst into the intellectual scene with novel ideas and methods."
    o "Pluto's shadowy influence and Gemini's natural curiosity push Pluto in Gemini to doggedly seek out hidden knowledge. Though Pluto in Gemini isn't an inherently dark placement, they don't shy away from the mysterious and the dark sides of life."
    o From: www.astrology.com/planets/pluto-in-gemini
    o There are some that say focus isn't a strong suit of Pluto in Gemini. However, Mercury in aspect to Pluto can have incredible focus and investigative skill (an aspect all of these people have).

• Most of these people have stelliums (stellia?) in one or two signs, thus making their whole personality more 'focused' and cohesive. One way of thinking about integrity is 'holding together' or being one instead of fragmented.
    o Not that diverse charts can't have it, this just describes a type. A cohesiveness of purpose, where parts of you are not in major conflict with other parts (the planets involved tell more).

• Neptune in Gemini: Idealising rational thought, logic, and the free flow of information. Neptune here is important because our ideals are where our values begin.

Some common aspects were: 

• Venus-Jupiter: Their everyday values and big-picture values are aligned, or at least, in conversation. I underestimated the role of Venus overall. It is also how we bring value into this world, so that matters.

• Sun-Moon: Emotional needs and goals are aligned or consciously visible to one another.

• Sun-Neptune: Adaptability, subterfuge. They had to operate on a more subtle, intellectual level instead of going for heavy fire.

• Sun-Jupiter: A certain idealism and optimism is necessary in this line of work

• Mercury-Pluto: A relentless quest for truth, laser focus, not easily swayed. Merc-Pluto people are hard to influence.

• Mercury-Mars: A bit of the crusader (not as much as Jupiter). There is a need to prove the 'right' or 'wrong' of things. Foreceful intellect, quick-thinking, sharp arguments. Your mind is your weapon.

• Saturn-Uranus, Saturn-Pluto: Disrupting existing structures (in this case, organized crime).

• A lot of air energy lends objectivity to these people, which is useful in a field where being level-headed is critical. Fewer emotional biases to deal with.

• However, there is also quite a bit of fire energy, the necessary impetus to go after criminals rather than just investigate.

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Some asteroids I plugged into the charts:

Astraea 5
"Goddess of Justice, purity and innocence was the last to leave the earth after the golden age, when she did she became the constellation Virgo and the Scales (Libra) were placed beside her. Astraea represents moral values, reasoning and good judgement. Astraea in the natal chart shows how we weigh up the options and choose the best course of action for us that fits into our moral values and beliefs."

From: neptunesauraastrology.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/asteroid-astraea-5-goddess-of-justice/

Fides 37
"Named after Fides, the Roman goddess of trust and good faith
 Fidelity, honor, credibility, reliability"

Probitas 902
"Means uprightness, honesty, and probity in Latin
 Strong morals, decency"

From: littledigest.tumblr.com/post/688938087690174464/asteroids-for-truth-and-lies

[Ava]

Thank you!

What a gold mine of research! I like the Mercury-Pluto and Mercury-Mars aspects. Mental strategizing and warfare, and just as you wrote up there.

Cool timing for this with Mercury, Mars and Pluto all together in Aquarius.

Will check it out more deeply later.

[geminiblues]

Random thoughts on this...

Debbie Kempton-Smith compared Pluto to a nuclear reactor or an atom bomb. The traditional symbol looking somewhat like a mushroom cloud. Whatever Pluto didn't blow up, it powered up on steroids.

Neptune dreams and spins illusions. Neptune dissolves. It's the collective subconscious, the racial memory.

Gemini. The messenger of the gods. Able to walk among the sinners and the saints,the highborn and the commoners, the scholars and the generals. That's why Gemini is so mutable. Communication needs the recipient to accept the message.

Pluto and Neptune were together in Gemini from 1889 to 1902. Pluto remained in Gemini for about another decade. In that time, we got either the invention or the wide adoption of the telephone, the phonograph, tabloid journalism, movies, the player piano, and a host of modifications to copyright law to divide up the rights of the composer, author, publisher, and performer.

Mercury Pluto in hard aspect indicates a willingness to think about/talk about the hard things, including the taboo, the occult, the things polite society sweeps under the rug. Pray that you don't have strong sag placements with this one, or you'll be blurting out the most inappropriate things at exactly the worst times.

Gemini is certainly not the inherent liar/scammer that popular memes make us out to be, but I could understand someone who didn't do their due diligence and thought their first impression was the whole story and thus thinking the worst once they realized their mistake. And there are plenty of unenlightened twins out there willing to use their power to take the easy path. I could tell a tale or two about a Gem gal seriously underestimating me...

Anyway, when I think of integrity, I usually think of fixed signs and/or fire. Maybe Jupiter Saturn in favorable aspects. But I'd think further, that it must be in personal aspects. After all, the Untouchables are a lasting story because they were the exception. Chicago was full of Pluto Neptune folks that happily went along with the state of affairs.

That, and the radio and later TV show made popular under a dramatic and loyal Leo Pluto. And then the movie under fixed Scorpio Pluto. With Pluto moving into Aqua, are we due for a remake?

It's amazing the extents I will go to when procrastinating a thing I really don't want to do. I hope you at least enjoyed my rambling. Till next time

[geminiblues]

Oh, I remembered 3 more Pluto Neptune things

Barbershop quartets
The first large scale efforts to clean up water with sewage treatment. Very literally Neptune Pluto
The women's christian temperance movements... With the availability of clean water, it deemphasized the need to drink so much alcohol. The people born under this aspect would go on to be the ones to enact/fight against prohibition...

[12YearsABlob]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I also found myself veering into a 'meditation on Pluto/Neptune/Gemini' as I was going through this and I did intend for us all to dive into any aspects we see here. So, it's all relevant, ramble or not.

You reminded me of the difference between the FBI and the CIA with your fixed/fire sign reference. The FBI, IIRC, has a Leo chart, and the CIA a Virgo. Apologies in advance for my rough paraphrasing - the FBI wants to catch bad guys (very straightforward - fire, Leo type thing) whereas the CIA takes the intellectual approach and tries to convert them into an 'asset.' Interesting, isn't it? I guess what I'm getting at is that the signs are better at answering 'how' questions rather than 'yes/no.' They may or may not show whether someone is in law enforcement, for example, but they might show one's approach if one is part of it.

Anyway, I'll be back with more later.