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Post by Ava on Mar 11, 2023 23:36:16 GMT
In my location, the chart for this last full moon @ 16 Virgo has Saturn @ 0°00 Pisces. Let's hope that's an auspicious beginning.
Last time Saturn moved into Pisces my boyfriend broke up with me out of the blue at a fast food restaurant. I think I was in the middle of eating a french fry and then blammo. Probably within a week of the ingress.
This time wasn't as dramatic, thank goodness. It would be weirder for a marriage to end that way.
Please post any good information you find about this transit? I'm still trying to get a better sense of it.
I'm going to start by posting and then watching this, in that order:
Edit: Video begins @ 6:35 if you want to skip promotions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 9:31:06 GMT
They do seem like diametrical opposites, considering that Saturn demands structure and clear boundaries, while Neptunian energy seeks to dissolve them, but I think this transit can be a catalyst for so many positive changes if you manage to find a balance between the two.
Spiritual growth can't be achieved without enough patience and discipline... and I can't think of a better time to give your dreams and desires tangible form. Still, I can see the worst-case scenarios as well, and the combination of these energies could easily manifest as a painful reality check or a general lack of direction that needs to be dealt with effectively.
I'm brainstorming... there are so many ways this could play out. Of course, the particular house Saturn is transiting in your chart would play a big role.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Apr 13, 2023 23:49:31 GMT
Ava , Was tr Saturn squaring your Venus at that time? Venus also represents your worth, your resources (2nd house energy). When tr Saturn in Sag squared my Venus, I went through a period of somewhat straitened circumstances. I've known a few Saturn in Pisces people, and they almost saw it as their "duty" to help other people and not be judgmental of them. Although they also had lots of Virgo, so I guess the "non-judgmental" part was the Pisces Saturn. They would hold themselves to that standard, to get along with everybody, and at times felt guilty about criticizing people. Saturn in Pisces might build up our tolerance in the area of the chart where it falls?
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Post by lumina on Apr 14, 2023 9:46:58 GMT
Tr Saturn in Pisces started with a trine to my Uranus on 1 Scorpio, however after that it will be doing some exhausting stuff I suppose, as it will square my Sag planets (Mars, ASC, Neptune, NN, Mercury, Sun) and conjunct my Jupiter as well. and conjunct my pr Venus and square pr Moon on and off (I will have that for many years to come though, and it started some time ago). So just hoping it will not be TOO harsh, but yeah not particularly looking forward to that.
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Post by Ava on Apr 14, 2023 13:54:16 GMT
12YearsABlobThanks for your thoughts. Tr Saturn entered Pisces and was immediately quincunx my 12H Saturn. Because Saturn is in mutual reception with my sun, I tend to think of my Saturn as a sort of proxy sun. Especially since they are in aspect as well (165°). Meanwhile tr Saturn immediately squared my ex's Jupiter and opposed his sun/Saturn midpoint. Tr Saturn then moved into a square with my Venus as you said. Yes, "straitened circumstances." Though with Saturn moving through my 8th, I did get my first real taste of "other people's money" and resources, because I was dating my college boyfriend, whose Jupiter is conjunct my moon in the 8th. We had a tense relationship but he was extremely generous. Through him I had access to all kinds of opportunities and privileges I would not have had otherwise. His family took me on vacations and everything. I was spoiled, but the relationship was difficult emotional work. Seems like that time period was not going to be fun anyway...Saturn actually stationed exactly on my moon. My Saturn Pisces friend is exactly as you described. Born in the mid-60s so she has those Virgo outer planets. My Saturn Pisces niece is also very accepting and actually helps open my eyes to what "accepting" even means. She gets into topics I normally wouldn't. But I'm glad someone does.
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Post by Violets on Apr 25, 2023 20:38:22 GMT
ETA: Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, lol. I hope it will only get better from here.
I’m very much dreading this transit, and trying to prepare myself for it by just accepting that anything I’m not doing for my greatest good will absolutely not be a thing after it moves over my sun. The last time it transited over my 8h sun, there was a traumatic death in my life. So far, our 12 year old neighbor died abruptly in her sleep, which was devastating for our neighborhood and community, our family, my kids, and obviously her family as well. Hopefully the rest of this transit will only include hard work and no more actual hardships.
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Post by Ava on Apr 26, 2023 11:17:06 GMT
That is horrible Violets and I'm so sorry for everyone dealing with such a loss. With Saturn moving through my 8th I also worry about serious losses. Wishing you and everyone protection through this transit!
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Post by Violets on Apr 26, 2023 17:30:51 GMT
You too, Ava. 💜 And yeah, Saturn through 8th is not a super transit for anyone. My dad’s Pisces moon is also in his 8h, and he has some health concerns right now, in addition to my younger brothers going through some hard stuff. I feel like there should be a separate group for just ranting about outer planet transits, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 18:28:27 GMT
Violets , how dreadful to lose a child! I was wondering if these losses could be attributed to the eclipse around the same time. In Vedic astrology, the eclipse is usually feared.
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Post by lumina on Apr 27, 2023 5:24:22 GMT
I`m so sorry Violets , let`s hope it will only get better from now on.
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Post by lumina on Apr 27, 2023 5:45:27 GMT
Tr Mars is conjunct my n Saturn exact today (no orb) and
Tr Saturn squares my n Mars with just 3 minutes applying (I was not aware it was already so close to be honest).
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Post by Violets on Apr 29, 2023 5:14:22 GMT
I bought a small chip of moldavite on a whim to help me with the energy of the upcoming transit, rather than fighting against it (which I’ve learned the hard way doesn’t work, lol). We’ll see how that turns out, hopefully smooth transitions for all of us. lumina that sounds like a frustrating transit, at least Mars moves relatively swiftly. @astrokeen I really don’t know; I should pay more attention to eclipses.
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Post by lumina on Apr 29, 2023 17:56:00 GMT
VioletsActually Not AS frustrating as Other Times. I don't know Saturn is manifesting in a weird way for me. Like for once IT Brings in contacts, Connections, people, which seems Just the Opposite of Saturns usual Reputation. And If frustrated or even depressed (Not now, in the past), Always because of emotional Connections. Actually when the Transit was peaking, I crossed paths with someone (Just online) whose Venus ist Opposite my Saturn. Also had a short surprising Convo with Mr Sag, where He gave me Sort of a peptalk about Not giving Up but starting again and again, even If IT will BE every third day a new beginning Just about that issue WE are both working on (losing weight), though IT seems He Some more issues and decided to a) BE very Open about them and b) work them Out Just all and quite suddenly. Our composite Venus ist in 16 Cap, exactly Opposite my Saturn. I seem to detect a subtle Theme. 😅
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Post by FruityLlama on May 1, 2023 20:15:05 GMT
I'm really sorry to hear that Violets , I can't imagine anything more devastating. I am a natal Saturn in Pisces @ 21* trine ASC. My fathers natal Saturn is exactly conjunct mine too, weirdly enough! He is a 1966 child and I am 1995, so he has those Virgo outer planets you mentioned Ava . He has virgo Mars too but not sure if it opposes his Saturn off the top of my head. I have a hard time understanding my Saturn tbh but its also tightly conjunct my MC and opposes my Chiron- IC configuration. I am also of the generation that has Neptune in Cap so its like everything is switched!! You would think my generation would have a good balance between Saturn-Neptune / Cap-Pisces energies. I am not sure overall that we do, but I suppose we are perhaps more inclined to think about how dreams can become reality. As a generation, we prob do think about how to make fantasy more accessible which may have led to certain tech and music advances in the 90-00s. I could be wrong but I think certain elements of music production started to become "cleaner" in way, which might be a Saturn-Neptune type thing. There seemed to be an attitude back then that certain genres couldn't work together and now we have Neptune in Pisces where music genres are more blurred together. Rap/trap and metal music are becoming more involved in each other for instance. I don't know, I'm prob talking crap, I really am just trying to understand how these placements translate to be honest!!
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Post by Ava on May 2, 2023 16:51:25 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts FruityLlama , very interesting. I agree, something major started happening in the 90s...with music, changes in society, and just all-around. I've been wondering about the Cap Neptune / Pisces Saturn years. The planets are in mutual reception. Because Saturn and Neptune can seem so diametrically opposed (concrete versus clouds) it does seem there's a potential there for manifestation (turning clouds into concrete) or also possibly the opposite. With Aquarius as the midpoint, technology is often the means through which many of these changes take place. Strange how, when Saturn was in Cap and Neptune was in Pisces, the midpoints fell in Aqua again, but now with each planet domicile, the effect was apparently stronger or more literal: there was a pandemic and then everyone was showing up digitally.
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Post by Ava on May 2, 2023 17:11:43 GMT
Notes from the video in the OP:
* Mergoat: evolution from depths to summit
* "A planet is neutral, it doesn't mean you any harm, but if you misuse it, then you suffer, and you can experience a crisis. But if you learn to understand with its intention, then you align with that planet - and Saturn, of course, is all about alignment."
* @16:45 Saturn conjunct Neptune on the north node in Pisces, 2025: "When planets are on the nodes, they dominate. When a planet is on the lunar node it becomes a gatekeeper...they set the tone for time they're there."
* @ 34:30 Themes for Saturn-Neptune in Pisces
- "End of an era" - is it the end of humanity? Climate change, pandemics. Our routines (Virgo) are vulnerable. - Neptune was in Pisces as a precursor to the US Civil War - Neptune in Aries represents a new beginning and vitality. Birth is a battle, you have to fight to survive it and prove you have the vitality to survive. - Usually a planet moves into a new sign when the sun is in that sign, or a sextile distance at maximum. It has an audience with the King (sun).
* @ 50:00 Saturn in Pisces, Saturn w/ Neptune, Saturn in the 12th: Kids had no role models, left to do what they wanted? Saturn in Pisces takes orders from God, not humans.
* Check out new moon in Pisces, February 27, 2025:
9 Pisces sun-moon 20 Pisces Saturn 24 Pisces Mercury 27 Pisces true NN 28 Pisces Neptune
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Post by Ava on May 2, 2023 17:15:19 GMT
Geez Mercury is so retrograde. I wrote under that line about the audience with the King, "I guess he's talking about Mercury and Venus?" but it didn't get published. I tried to edit it back in but again, it won't show up. Alright, whatever.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 17:32:13 GMT
I just left my phone at a coffee shop. But they have it. Phew!
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Post by FruityLlama on May 10, 2023 21:21:01 GMT
AvaYou write so concisely, but yes I forgot about the more recent Saturn in Cap - Nep in Pisces! How strange...I love it when Astrology makes sense like this.
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