Do you believe in Solar Return charts?

[anela]

I'm kind of afraid to check mine this year, and I've been backing off from astrology here and there, because it's been freaking me out. (Pluto, specifically, although Uranus took my mother, so...)

I just know that I have Mercury, Venus, Saturn, and Jupiter, all retrograde. Jupiter in the 12th might be a good thing, but Moon opposed Mars, I don't see as a good thing. Especially with the above retrograde. I've been peeking in here when I feel okay, mostly sticking to bland or amusing things on facebook, and so on. My social anxiety is way up, but if someone - a stranger - acts all pissy with me, when it's online, I just put them on ignore. I don't try to make it all better. That isn't so bad. I almost blocked someone last night, because he was kicking up dust on his sister's facebook page.  At the same time, I don't want to be kicking up dust for anyone else, or bringing them down, so I'm waiting until I feel okay to talk to people. That is what concerns me. 

The ascendant is Libra, but Uranus is conjunct the descendant, which could explain the few weird interactions I've had over the past week. Venus, Chiron, and Part of Fortune are all conjunct. Pluto trine Mars might be helpful. The square to Uranus, not so much. Saturn trine Mercury/Uranus, might help. Venus/Chiron square Saturn = ugh.

I'm not asking for a reading, just kind of going over it, and didn't want to post at LL or astro.com. I'm spending too much time alone offline, and don't have much of a choice at the moment. I need to get in the shower, and maybe skype my sister. I'm also thinking about downloading a couple of computer games, although my battery is at 11%. I need to get this one looked at, and get my desktop going again. I used to play computer games when I felt this way, and it would keep me alert and focused on something, rather than feeling like crap. I've been thinking, for months, of taking a social media break, but does that count message boards? I don't want to just disappear, and this and facebook, is how I'm connected to most people I know. 

 

[Ava]

anela

I don't know whether I believe in them or not, I'm still in a testing phase with them.

Yours looks a bit difficult with the Scorpio moon opposing 8H Mars-Ceres-Vertex, but that could also turn out positively. I mean already you seem focused on solutions....Scorpio moon wonders about transforming for the better.

I'm sorry you are dealing with social anxiety, I have had that before and it sucked. I felt badly for letting communication slide with my friends, but I couldn't handle it. Fortunately it proved to be just a phase. And I hope that's the case for you. <3

The sun-Uranus-DSC connection there might be another reason why you feel jittery when it comes to talking with people? I am really intrigued about that one! I wonder what it could mean. A new relationship, maybe?

Sun trine Saturn looks strengthening over the long haul. It's just that the sun quincunx moon has this uncomfortable feel to it, I suppose. Things might feel kinda lopsided.

Just my guesses.

My own SR chart has already proven itself out, as this has been the nuttiest year for me, in terms of public relations, and I have this stuff in my 10H....




I mean, for crying out loud. 

Next year's is much better though.

[lumina]

I tentatively do (and Lunar Returns are even more gobsmacking to me)

Well my current Solar Return (started 17th december last year) has:

ASC 28°59 Aqua
Mars 28°32 Aqua
Pallas 27°17 Aqua

conjunct

n BML (i) 27°58 Aquarius
n 3rd house cusp 27°00 Aquarius

So all of that ASC-Mars-Pallas is emphasizing my BML in Aqua in 3rd house - I guess it does show in my communications! (actually almost felt like it was starting a month early. lol).

Anyway this Solar Return took place on the day of the first workshop with P - in fact I was first meeting/ seeing him on that day pretty much within minutes of my exact Solar Return taking place; later that day he was singing some bits of a self composed song to me (well I had payed attention and was listening. lol) with the title: "Butterflies don`t cry".

Synchronistically my SR Mars and SR ASC (and natal true BML btw) all fall onto 28 Aquarius which has the Sabian:
"A Butterfly Emerging From A Chrysalis"


Just thought that was intriguing. lol


Also I have no clue what it means, but my SR ASC-Mars-Pallas (and of course natal BML) fall onto my pr Venus on 28-29 Aquarius (it is at 29 Aqua by now (at the day of my Solar return it was still at 28°45 Aqua -hence ALSO emphasizing that butterfly-Sabian).

Of course pr Venus on 29 Aquarius possibly is trying to tell me something as is the Solar Return ASC on such a late degree. lol
BTW Venus will progress onto 00 Pisces on the day of my next Solar Return, I mean like really precisely that very day. lol

I guess I am in a transiton period this year or something.

[lumina]

anela

I agree with Faith, your Solar Return looks a tad challenging. I mean the ASC-ruler is Venus conjunct Chiron squaring Saturn. I have that in my ongoing lunar Return, and while I wouldn`t say it has been a desaster so far, no it has certainly not been that! It`s been already a very important month in terms of personal evolving, but it is just so exhausting facing old and ongoing vulnerabilities and deal with them! Even being on the receiving end of appreciation can sometimes be .... difficult.

Anyway, I do believe however that possibly for you it also constitutes a great opportunity to reach some healing, maybe even of your anxiety. Like a break through? 


Uranus on DESC feels pretty unusual and possibly erratic in terms of other people I think. LIke meeting all that crazy people, or wildly innovative and interesting ones. 

[lumina]

May 6, 2017 2:18:19 GMT Ava said:

anela

I don't know whether I believe in them or not, I'm still in a testing phase with them.

Yours looks a bit difficult with the Scorpio moon opposing 8H Mars-Ceres-Vertex, but that could also turn out positively. I mean already you seem focused on solutions....Scorpio moon wonders about transforming for the better.

I'm sorry you are dealing with social anxiety, I have had that before and it sucked. I felt badly for letting communication slide with my friends, but I couldn't handle it. Fortunately it proved to be just a phase. And I hope that's the case for you. <3

The sun-Uranus-DSC connection there might be another reason why you feel jittery when it comes to talking with people? I am really intrigued about that one! I wonder what it could mean. A new relationship, maybe?

Sun trine Saturn looks strengthening over the long haul. It's just that the sun quincunx moon has this uncomfortable feel to it, I suppose. Things might feel kinda lopsided.

Just my guesses.

My own SR chart has already proven itself out, as this has been the nuttiest year for me, in terms of public relations, and I have this stuff in my 10H....




I mean, for crying out loud. 

Next year's is much better though.

And Moon rules the chart, is conjunct Uranus (crazy stuff - even possibly relating to sudden cutting off people or being cut off by people, Uranus ruling the 8th house - or just a tremendous change in how you emotionally connect to others, might also add surprising depth of course), and it is squarint he Sun-Pluto-conjunction in 6th house. I guess adapting to your environment might not be so easy nowadays. You`re too strong and opinionated for that at the current time. And too fiery with Moon in Aries. 


Hmm so far it seems that the chartruler is a good start for the interpretation. lol 


Well mine would be Uranus, let me have a look at mine. 

SR Uranus on 20 Aries conjunct Ceres on 21 Aries conjunct Eris on 22 Aries in 1st house (natal 4th house and conj. Chiron), that chartruler opposing SR Jupiter on 19 Libra in 7th house, trine SR Saturn-Juno on SR MC and also trine Sun with 5 degrees. 
also squaring my natal Vertex (in 8th house and in SR 5th house) and my natal Sun/Moon-mp exactly. 

intercepted chartruler is Neptune on 9 PIsces in 1st house, EXACTLY conjunct natal Ceres on 9 Pisces and also conjunct Jupiter on 11 PIsces, and PHolus on 6 Pisces. SR nodal axis falling onto n Pholus as well. 



Anyway Uranus-Ceres? to natal Vertex with the 8th/ 5th overlay?
SR NN trine n Venus (and pr Mars) exactly, Venus ruling n 5th house?
SR ASC-ruler, albeit intercepted, on n Ceres-Jupiter? 

Jupiter in 7th house, ruler of 7th house, Sun conjunct Pholus in 10th house with Juno on 10th house? 

Actually ruler of 7th house, Sun, is in 10th house, conjunct Pholus, while ruler of 10t house, Jupiter, is in Libra in 7th house opposing chartruler Uranus in 1st house. 

The intercepted ruler of 7th house, Mercury is conjunct Pluto - oh well. 


But anyway, the basic stuff probably is the Mars-Pallas on the ASC in Aquarius, with Uranus in 1st house conjunct Ceres, and opposing Jupiter in 7th (uranus opposing Jupiter, not Mars. Mars behaves rather well, despite being conjunct my erratic n BML. 
SR Mars just sextiles SR Sun-Pholus (with about 2-3 degrees) and sextiles natal Sun-Mercury and trines n Uranus, and well of course conjuncts pr Venus.