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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 18:14:51 GMT
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Post by Ava on Dec 11, 2017 22:46:03 GMT
I'm reading this, and remembered this thread: An actor, who has encountered serial killers more than once. One was a guy who killed his family, another was Cary Stayner, and I need to keep reading to see who else is mentioned. Chilling. I was on my honeymoon and we were caught in traffic on a mountain near the lodge where Stayner kidnapped his victims. I wasn't even following the news. Anyway when we went around a bend we saw loads of police, and my husband rolled down his window to ask one of them what was going on, and he replied, "We just found the third body" and explained a bit more. We stayed near there while the killer was still at large, and I was just so creeped out that whole time.
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Post by Ava on Dec 11, 2017 22:54:48 GMT
On this list, Pisces and Gemini are tied: thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2016/08/famous-serial-killers-arranged-according-to-their-zodiac-sign/Todd Kohlhepp is a Pisces and would be a tie-breaker but I don't know how old or comprehensive/accurate that list is. --- I'm just stuck in my habit of checking for Mars/Uranus aspects. Kohlhepp has the semisquare -- Sag Mars semisquare Libra Uranus. Wish I could just have Mars/Uranus data on all these people, to satisfy my own curiosity. Here's a partial list.... Some of these orbs won't impress people, but one of my favorite astrologers, Richard Tarnas, uses wider orbs. When I see patterns like these, I'm inclined to follow suit: - Ted Bundy has an exact trine of Sag Mars to Leo Uranus - Dahmer had Aries Mars widely conjunct Aries moon; Aries moon trine Leo Uranus. (Wide Mars/Uranus trine) - Joran van der Sloot has Leo Mars trine Sag Uranus - Donald Harvey, Scorpio Mars trine Cancer Uranus, 5°, 37-57 victims - John Wayne Gacy has Mars widely conjunct Uranus (8° out of sign, but both conjunct his DSC) - Dennis Rader the BTK killer has Aqua Mars trine Gemini Uranus (wide) - Paul Bernardo has a wide sextile (Cancer Mars, Virgo Uranus) - Albert Fish has a wide sextile (Taurus Mars-Pluto sextile Cancer Uranus-NN) - Keith Jesperson has a close sextile (Taurus Mars, Cancer Uranus) - Charles Manson does not have Mars/Uranus and it's interesting, he didn't actually do the killing. - Bret Easton Ellis, author of American Psycho, has admitted to having sick fantasies...Mars opposing Uranus. - Richard Ramirez has Mars quincunx Uranus, within standard orbs - Same with Aileen Wuornos, she has a tight quincunx - Joel Rifkin, Mars square Uranus, wide (but less than 8°) - Belle Gunness, Mars trine Uranus (less than 4°), 40 + victims - Patrick Kearney, Mars trine Uranus wide, a little over 8°, 21-43 victims - Henry Lee Lucas, Mars square Uranus, 1°, 157+ victims - Wayne Williams, his chart shows a sesquisquare www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Wayne_Williams
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Post by FruityLlama on Dec 12, 2017 17:52:16 GMT
Thanks all for adding to this!! Ava your story is amazing, I am nervous thinking about that, coming so close like that to the scene of the crime! And thanks for the Mars-Uranus data, I never thought about that aspect but it makes sense doesn't it. Erratic anger issues and all.
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Post by Ava on Dec 12, 2017 18:20:55 GMT
Haha, thanks FruityLlamaI remember eating at a place called "Happy Burger" in the town right next to where the body was found. I was eating my french fries and looking around the whole time. "How can I be happy when a serial killer is in town?" I have Venus conjunct Neptune, and transiting Pluto was right on their midpoint. So that's my Plutonian honeymoon story. lol
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Post by FruityLlama on Dec 12, 2017 18:23:18 GMT
Wow how ironic! And astrologically uncanny! Pluto was on the serial killers' midpoint? I am actually stunned haha
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Post by Ava on Dec 12, 2017 18:49:18 GMT
I meant, tr Pluto was on my natal Venus/Neptune midpoint, but let me look at this.... Oh I see what you mean, he also had Pluto = Venus/Neptune! 😱
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 20, 2017 16:27:52 GMT
Holy s**t, Ava . I have looked at some of these charts. I think I had a spreadsheet somewhere about aspects/signs. Will dig it up and see if I recorded anything interesting. What gives me pause is - these are only the ones we know about. The ones that got caught. It's a good study in itself - observing patterns in the ones that got caught. Still, I do wish there was some way to find out about the ones that didn't.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Dec 21, 2017 15:03:41 GMT
Ava , adding to your list: Edmund Kemper - no Mars-Uranus, *but* harsh Uranus aspects to most everything else! I find the ones to Venus & Jupiter noteworthy (considering they are our minor & major value systems, etc). However with him, it was much more than that. With Saturn on the Asc, he could seem pretty sane, stable, serious. That, along with the Sag (Jupiter) charm, helped him weasel his way out of the psych ward. He was released, thought to have been "cured". (Side note: I feel bad for the docs there. They must've received a lot of backlash. Not much room for error in their profession. ) I'll keep adding here as & when I can look at more charts. Thanks for this thread, FruityLlama ! P.S. Can't find the document, will have to make a new one. P.P.S. Blanket statement for all such studies : Energy is neutral until directed.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Jan 30, 2018 15:53:26 GMT
continuing... -- Derek Percy: Moon's ruler Uranus square sun, trine Mars. Mars conjunct SN. Wide Uranus-Jupiter opposition. Pluto opposing Moon, semisquare Uranus & square Mars. Neptune conjunct mercury - he never admitted to anything. -- Christopher Wilder: Uranus possibly square moon. Mars inconjunct Jupiter, sesquiquadrate Saturn & Neptune.
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Post by Karka Queen on Mar 10, 2018 21:59:34 GMT
I was in the middle of analyzing serial killer's charts but I had to stop due to sheer amount of volume of charts I had to look through. Pbbt.
The common reoccurring theme seems to be;
The configuration of the dispositors and mutual receptors of the ASC ruler, Mars, and Moon is poor and connection is compromised by malefic planets or lack of accidental & essential dignities. Mars doesn't have to be a prominent feature in the chart, even tho we observe it usually is, but it has a lot of negative aspects (oppositions, squares, quincunx) or aspect with Saturn (another malefic planet) and tends to be in part with the asc ruler or sun (thru dispositor or in aspect with it) **Major Fixed Stars being prominent is COMMON. Look out for Algol and Antares. And a few others.
If anyone contests with additional evidence that proves contrary to what I'm saying I welcome it.
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Post by FruityLlama on Mar 11, 2018 0:14:53 GMT
I was wondering about fixed stars actually, and other objects. Did attempt to do a stats analtsis on Nessus but things got in tbe way and it didnt seem compelling but those ones you mentioned are interesting!
Thank you for your response!
One day i will do it properly i swear haha !
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Post by Karka Queen on Mar 11, 2018 0:28:14 GMT
I was wondering about fixed stars actually, and other objects. Did attempt to do a stats analtsis on Nessus but things got in tbe way and it didnt seem compelling but those ones you mentioned are interesting! Thank you for your response! One day i will do it properly i swear haha ! I have not analyzed Nessus' prominence, yet, no. I thought Mars and Fixed Stars would suffice.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Apr 10, 2018 23:27:24 GMT
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