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Post by Ava on May 31, 2020 13:51:22 GMT
Shivanoun Hinduism.“the Destroyer,” the third member of the Trimurti, along with Brahma the Creator and Vishnu the Preserver. === Shivaratri, 1994 When Shiva comes dancing with heavy feet through your life Laughing and singing and tearing off your blankets leaving you naked and afraid remember if you can he is your friend He is waking you up - or trying to. When he smears ashes on your forehead and screams in your face if you can, remember he is your Friend. And when he comes slapping his thighs stealing your fruit scratching his ass and dancing dancing in his hairy monkey god form remember if you can Shiva is your friend. Jai Jai Siva Ki Jay
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Post by Ava on May 31, 2020 14:14:58 GMT
Trying to see a broader context for Shiva...
I've wondered if the Trimurti corresponds to the three gunas...apparently so:
Brahma - Sattvia
Vishnu - Rajas
Shiva- Tamas
Does anyone have any more information about that? Is that lineup appropriate or widely acknowledged?
Ayurvedic dietary principles focus heavily on making sattvic (fresh) foods the primary basis of one's diet; rajasic foods are for times of increased activity including childbirth and battles; tamasic food is generally avoided or used sparingly as it tends towards death.
The correlation between the trimurti and the gunas is imperfect that way, as destruction in general does have a purpose, but it's not something we're encouraged to seek out. Don't eat tamasic food, don't become Shiva on purpose just for the heck of it.
Anyway, the trimurti seems to correspond to the Fates/Moirae (Klotho, Lachesis, Atropos) and Norns (Urd, Verdandi, Skuld). Guna can mean "string or thread, rope, sinew, chord" and Atropos is the cutter of the chord of life. Perhaps there's an academic paper on this somewhere, I just haven't found it.
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Post by Ava on May 31, 2020 14:39:38 GMT
Random bits of data
* 2847 Parvati is Shiva's wife
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* Unintentionally created this thread with the moon transiting on the heliocentric south node (HSN) of Siva. Parvati is transiting on that node:
29 Virgo, tr moon
1.07 Libra, HSN of Siva
1.37 Libra, tr Parvati
Vishnu (4034) is transiting @ 27 Pisces, applying to conjunction with Siva's HNN @ 1 Aries.
* Transiting nodes have been squaring Siva's helio nodes, perhaps an astrological marker matching civil unrest
29 Gemini, tr NN
Then again any time the transiting NN is around @ Cancer or Capricorn, the whole draconic zodiac is squaring the tropical, theoretically creating a time of friction or massive change. The draconic moon-Siva conjunction is on the tropical NN around 0 Cancer right now.
* Transiting draconic Siva @ 20 Taurus on the helio nodes of Mars (19.42 Taurus) and Mercury (18.34 Taurus); yet another alignment matching angry (Mars) communication (Mercury), and the riots.
* Transiting tropical Siva @ 20 Leo today, squaring those helio nodes of Mars and Mercury.
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My own stuff, for future reference, since I always forget these placements:
25 Sag Parvati
9 Cap Siva
19 Cap Vishnu
Draconic
5 Taurus Parvati
19 Taurus Siva (on my south node)
29 Taurus Vishnu
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 16:32:40 GMT
Trying to see a broader context for Shiva... I've wondered if the Trimurti corresponds to the three gunas...apparently so: Brahma - Sattvia Vishnu - Rajas Shiva- Tamas Does anyone have any more information about that? Is that lineup appropriate or widely acknowledged? Ayurvedic dietary principles focus heavily on making sattvic (fresh) foods the primary basis of one's diet; rajasic foods are for times of increased activity including childbirth and battles; tamasic food is generally avoided or used sparingly as it tends towards death. The correlation between the trimurti and the gunas is imperfect that way, as destruction in general does have a purpose, but it's not something we're encouraged to seek out. Don't eat tamasic food, don't become Shiva on purpose just for the heck of it. Anyway, the trimurti seems to correspond to the Fates/Moirae (Klotho, Lachesis, Atropos) and Norns (Urd, Verdandi, Skuld). Guna can mean "string or thread, rope, sinew, chord" and Atropos is the cutter of the chord of life. Perhaps there's an academic paper on this somewhere, I just haven't found it. , the meaning of 'Guna' is positive qualities or characteristics. For example, one could refer to a person's good character in terms of the guna they possess. I haven't heard of Siva representing tamasic qualities. If that is stated somewhere then it would be debatable. Possibly due to a misreading of scriptures. |
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 31, 2020 20:35:45 GMT
Brahma - Sattvia Vishnu - Rajas Shiva- Tamas Does anyone have any more information about that? Is that lineup appropriate or widely acknowledged? Actually, I follow your line of reasoning here. Considering Shiva to the Pluto God of Hinduism (sort of), it follows that he must be associated with tamasic qualities because that fits right in with Pluto.
Going by @astrokeen 's comment there, I did a little digging and turns out there is some debate about the interpretation. From what I gather, our view of Shiva's capacity for destruction pushes us to think of him as tamasic. However, the relationship between the Gods and the gunas is a little more complicated than that. Of course, my knowledge of scripture is...zero. But I'll try to read what I can and be back if I can make sense of it.
That kinda bums me out though. Three Gods relating to three gunas - would've been neat, eh?
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Post by 12YearsABlob on May 31, 2020 20:52:33 GMT
My own stuff, for future reference, since I always forget these placements: 25 Sag Parvati 9 Cap Siva 19 Cap Vishnu Draconic 5 Taurus Parvati 19 Taurus Siva (on my south node) 29 Taurus Vishnu I'm talking about this with you, and my placements are:
9° Scorp Parvati
9° Virgo Siva 5° Sag Vishnu (on your Venus, lol)
Draconic:
25° Scorp Parvati 26° Cap Siva 21° Aqua Vishnu
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 21:51:43 GMT
12YearsABlob , I see Siva too as Plutonic. Incidentally, SIVA orbits the Sun at a distance of 1.6–3.0 AU once every 3 years and 7 months. I checked the ephemeris for both Siva and Parvati and it appears that Parvati is about twice as slow. Ava , I wonder if the sabian symbol for SIVA might cast some light as what this asteroid might be manifesitng esp. during transits. Would that be 10 Cap in your case? 10 Cap - AN ALBATROSS FEEDING FROM THE HAND OF A SAILOR. KEYNOTE: The overcoming of fear and its rewards. "The man who radiates perfect harmlessness can call the wildest creatures to him and can establish with them a partnership based on mutual respect and understanding. Every living entity plays a role in the world's ritual of existence; beyond these specific roles, which too often separate one entity from another, the communion of love and compassion can bring together the most disparate lives. At this last stage of the fifty-sixth sequence we are presented with a picture extending the ideal of peace and happiness through culture so it now includes all living organisms on this planet. The power of such a culture of harmlessness and compassion generates TRUST everywhere." Mine is at 28 Taurus - A WOMAN, PAST HER "CHANGE OF LIFE," EXPERIENCES A NEW LOVE. KEYNOTE: Man's capacity to rise in consciousness and feelings above biological limitations. And that resonates!!
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Post by Ava on Jun 2, 2020 1:29:17 GMT
Thank you 12YearsABlob and @astrokeen, I appreciate your opinion. Our synastry is excellent there, 12Years! Siva in Virgo, is that like controlled demolition? Deconstructivism in the philosophic sense? Siva seems to anithetical to Virgo but there has to be a way to make that work. Any ideas? My Cap Siva is conjunct DNA, prominent in my synastry with my older children. I still don't have a feel for that area of the zodiac except it's squaring my Pluto so involves a sort of Saturn/Pluto "square off." @astrokeen, glad the Sabian for your Siva resonates. Speaking for myself: "KEYNOTE: The overcoming of fear and its rewards." Lots to think about there. I have definitely wished for this ability: "The man who radiates perfect harmlessness can call the wildest creatures to him and can establish with them a partnership based on mutual respect and understanding." Birds fly away as I approach so it's been a study to try and figure out what kind of energy they are seeking, and cultivate that energy. The fear goes both ways because I fear them scattering, it can feel like a judgment. |
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Jun 3, 2020 12:06:59 GMT
Thank you 12YearsABlob and @astrokeen , I appreciate your opinion. Our synastry is excellent there, 12Years! Siva in Virgo, is that like controlled demolition? Deconstructivism in the philosophic sense? Siva seems to anithetical to Virgo but there has to be a way to make that work. Any ideas? Not sure yet.. It's on my Venus, so maybe that adds something? Might have a guess when I've read about it.. |
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Post by Ava on Jun 28, 2020 15:31:07 GMT
0 Aqua Saturn
0 Aries Mars
1 Virgo Siva, apex of yod
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Post by Lionessmind on Jul 2, 2020 17:01:37 GMT
😇Hi!
Asteroid Fides, is the Roman Goddess of faith, honesty, oath, performance of duty, ......and wow! I see right now that, I have Fides return!
Magic? Is not incredible, that I remembered Fides now? Just in time, only almost 3 degrees back!
So, I have:
Fides 12 degrees 00'' Leo (Sidereal) Sextile Moon 1 degree 17"
Fides Sextile Mars 2 degrees 42" (My Moon and Mars is conjuct)
Fides Conjuct Mercury 3 degrees 43"
Fides Conjuct Philosophia (13 Leo 36) 1 degree and 36" (both Trine asteroid DNA 15 Aries 40")
Fides Opposition SaturnR 3 degrees and 8" (Veeery difficult. All the time tests)
Fides Conjuct Uranus exact 0 degrees and 50"
Fides conjuct Sweet exact 0 degrees and 13"
Fides Sextile lris 1 degree and 53"
I would like......I mean.....I will be very happy, to send me your reply, about Fides. And, I try to find more about.
Love💖🐙🌊🐚
Lionmind
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Post by Ava on Jul 4, 2020 19:50:32 GMT
Hi LionessmindI have 37 Fides @ 14 Pisces natally, sextile my 15 Cap sun. Thank you for the information. Would you consider making a separate thread for this asteroid? |
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Post by Lionessmind on Jul 5, 2020 4:53:22 GMT
Wow!😄 Ava! Yes, I would like very much, how can I do this? |
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Post by Ava on Jul 5, 2020 12:30:26 GMT
Wow!😄 Ava ! Yes, I would like very much, how can I do this? When you click on the subforum "Asteroids" there is a "Create thread" box on the right, in yellow. We usually include the asteroid number in the title. Thanks! |
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Post by Lionessmind on Jul 5, 2020 19:51:36 GMT
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Post by glaucus on Apr 13, 2022 21:45:47 GMT
I have the following in Galactic Longitude: I put the Galactic Longitude into Zodiac Equivalent if object is at 120'00, then I put as 0'00 Leo Galactic Coordinates [Astro*Index]
Coordinate system which uses the galactic circle as its fundamental circle and places its origin near the galactic center in the constellation Sagittarius. The coordinates are: galactic longitude (l) and galactic latitude (b). Galactic Longitude is measured eastward along the galactic circle (from 0° to 360°) from the nominal galactic center to the foot of a perpendicular circle passing through the body; Galactic Latitude is measured along this perpendicular circle, from the galactic equator to the body (+ is north, - is south). In 1959, the IAU (International Astronomical Union) set the nominal galactic center at: RA=17h42.4m, DEC=-28°55', referred to the mean equator and equinox of 1950.0, and defined the galactic equator to be inclined at an angle of about 62° to that same reference system. See Figure G1. Currently, the radio and infrared source known as Sagittarius A West is thought to coincide with the galactic center. This source is located only a few minutes of arc from the nominal center, at the galactic coordinates: l= -3.34', b= -2.75'. www.astrologysoftware.com/community/learn/dictionary/galactic.html#GalacticCoordinates Sun - 1°43 Pisces conjunct Vishnu - 1°14 Pisces conjunct Siva - 2°06 Pisces sextile Ganesa - 1°23 Capricorn |
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