Declination aspects

[lumina]

hi all, 

I just have been reading the e-book on declinations by John Willner (I think that was his name). 

He states that parallels taking place in Southern half of ecliptic are related to internal processes, the Northern ones relate to external stuff, and contraparallels actually involve other people (so not really like an opposition per se). I have read that before, the Northern/ Southern stuff in a really great book by Paul Newman on declinations. And the thing about the contraparallels involving other people, I think I read on Alice Portman`s page. 
Which is why Willner states that marriages often occur with parallels to the DESC as well as the ASC. (Parallel to DESC obviously is contraparallel the ASC, and per definition involves another person). 

He also states that events happen exactly at the peak of aspects, or almost exactly, and apaprently there had been a research conducted (though possibly a smaller one, and not scientific enough; but using 100 or more charts is definitely a good start and showing at least a tendency), and that int hat research only aspects were counted within 4 minutes of orb, Charles Carter also mentions the 5 minute orb thing as do others. I guess it makes sense in terms of progressions/ solar arcs, as it pinpoints the month of when an aspect is exact, one month applying, one month separating (in the case of pr Sun, pr Angelse, pr Nodes at least, Mercury-Venus often is a bit faster, Moon for sure, and Mars and the others are slower). 

Personally I think it is too narrow in terms of transits though. though Bernadette Brady claims that an transit is really only valid with an orb of 12 minutes (do not ask me where the 12 minutes come from. LOL)

I am good with the 1 degree orb for transits, though yes, the closer it gets to exactness, the more intense things get, and aeveryting within about 15 minutes applying and separating is VERY intense. I cannot say I feel a difference between 15 minutes and 7 minutes though. 



But anyway, orbs are always a bit difficult topic.

Anyway that research obviously had ther esult that about 57% of the time the matching aspect (within 4 minutes) at a major event ws found int he declinations. 

So I am curious did you notice declinational aspects peaking or being close and matching the event, and a major event taking place?


Curiously enough in P`s case that did work for his marriage. He didn`t have really big or even matching progressions using the longitudinal aspects, but turns out his pr DESC was precisely parallel his n Neptune on 21.45 S. I mean, 0.00 orb. Also Neptune rules his 1st house, so the 7th house was brought to the 1st house ruler, and well of course Neptune is still Neptune. 

When my brother got married he had p DESC parallel p Jupiter (ruler of the pr DESC) with 4 minutes orb. 
my sister in law had pDESC parallel n Jupiter within 8 minutes orb (Jupiter also ruling Her pr DESC)

(BTW my brother has a Moon in Sag conjunct Jupiter and actually Uranus as well; she has Jupiter on the MC natally, partile conjunct and parallel and as a matter of fact her pDESC was parallel her n MC with 1 minute of orb)

[Ava]

Hi lumina ,

Edit - my pr ASC has been parallel pr Jupiter for a few years now, strange times.

[lumina]

Ava

haha, dogs!



"nothing stands out for me for my wedding day in progressed declinations."
Have you used the progression with SA MC? third option on astro.com?
But of course the longitude aspects are still there and valid and centre.




"For my husband, it's ASC/DSC & Uranus"
actually great I think. and symbolical with Uranus ruling your natal DESC.


"7°34 N pr ASC

7°35 N pr Jupiter
"
Crazy, and sweet. Grand even. Interesting that my brother and his wife had the same thing (well almost) happen when they got married, in both cases it was about (re)connection. 


too bad I am never going to have it. Well my Saturn is parallel my DESC, and in may 2020 pr DESC will be parallel pr Saturn on 22.25 S exact. Saturn also rules the progressed ASC. 
Later that year the pr DESC will also be conjunct natal Saturn (in october I think)


"But nothing in his noon-chart declination table is @ 7°,"
doesn`t have to be. He might have had different, though matching, progressions at the same time, just not around 7 degrees.

[Ava]

Hi lumina

"Interesting that my brother and his wife had the same thing (well almost) happen when they got married, in both cases it was about (re)connection."

Strange! Well it was nothing like marriage in my case but I was happy. A major, ongoing perplexity was about to get resolved. Jupiter => learning, understanding.

Funny that I have Jupiter-ASC in my solar return for this year, the following year. I guess I learned even more...but with SR Jupiter-ASC conjunct my natal Neptune, it's like everything I learned just confuses me. That's okay. It's like a year-long course in confusion (?) I've used a lot of question marks this year.

I had ASC conjunct Uranus exact @ 11 Aqua in my SR for the year I got married (as always, using rectified birth time). So that matches my husband's pr ASC parallel Uranus.

"Well my Saturn is parallel my DESC, and in may 2020 pr DESC will be parallel pr Saturn on 22.25 S exact."

Interesting how that mirror's P's natal Saturn-DSC conjunction. Maybe you both have it because you didn't marry each other.

[lumina]

Ava


"Funny that I have Jupiter-ASC in my solar return for this year, the following year. I guess I learned even more..."
Makes sense.

"but with SR Jupiter-ASC conjunct my natal Neptune, it's like everything I learned just confuses me. That's okay. It's like a year-long course in confusion (?) I've used a lot of question marks this year.
"
Neptune has long range effects, you will probably realize the truth underneath it all and the purpose and meaning much later. 




I had ASC conjunct Uranus exact @ 11 Aqua in my SR for the year I got married (as always, using rectified birth time). So that matches my husband's pr ASC parallel Uranus.


That is very cool and makes me wonder if the SR and progressions might go hand in hand, like if mirroring takes place, something more major might happen? 




"Interesting how that mirror's P's natal Saturn-DSC conjunction. Maybe you both have it because you didn't marry each other. "
Haha, maybe, though he did get married with Saturn on DESC. And SAturn-DESC actually is a rather elevated thing to have, well there is some dignity there, have forgotten which one. lol 

my Father has Saturn on the other end of the axis, on the ASC, and got married, too. 

Interestingly however, my SAturn is actually contraparallel P`s Venus - which makes more sense than I can even begin to describe, also mirrors my Saturn opposing our composite Vneus I guess. 


as for the progressions next may, or lets pick the 7th june, as this is the date of the Adventureland concert.

my pr DESC 22.25 N
my pr Saturn 22.25 N

his pr ASC 22.31 N
his n Venus 22.39 S




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and for the concert on next monday I actually have

pVenus 12.02 S
p Pluto 12.02 N

- now that I call precision! lol 




also 

pr ercury 11.03 S
n Moon 11.05 S

and pr Venus on 2 Pisces trine pr Uranus on 2 Scorpio with an orb of 3 minutes applying



The pr DESC is on 22.29 N applying to pr Saturn on 22.25 N by 4 minutes, so basically that one starting now. 

his pr ASCC is on 22.27 N


and I guess if I look there will be other stuff. but anyway, just thought that the zeroing in on the Venus-Pluto-progression was interesting. But well I do have kind of an intense time, at leat internally, at the moment, but that could also be the Transiting Saturn opposing my Saturn, the pr Moon applying to square my n Saturn, Tr Pluto on my Sun/Moon-mp opposing my Vertex and Eros, squaring my Chiron, even Tr Neptune on my Juno might play its role and so on. so there is enough of the darkish stuff, even without a Venus-Pluto-progression I guess.

[Ava]

^ Interesting lumina .

"so there is enough of the darkish stuff, even without a Venus-Pluto-progression I guess."

I guess when it rains, it pours. Looks like those events will have some memorable times....

"That is very cool and makes me wonder if the SR and progressions might go hand in hand, like if mirroring takes place, something more major might happen?"

No idea. Looking at charts is meditative and calming to me, so thanks for the suggestion...

Right away I'm seeing my pr sun @ 11°21 S contraparallel to pr Pluto @ 11°26 N. And of course, they have been conjunct in my SRs for a few years now.

I guess that would be some kind of high-intensity zone in synastry. Flipping through pr charts in my astrodatabank, I'm not finding a lot in that range, but you have Mercury & Uranus there, hope it's okay to announce that. My darkness, your lightning. This works.

Is this thread about progressed angles + progressed planets in synastry? Or, all declinations in synastry?

Every time a coworker mentions a birthday + age, I look at their chart. I feel spooky and nosey, but I'd rather feel that way than burning alive with curiosity. Lots of declination planets hitting my sun. My coworker E has Neptune parallel to my sun. He's a movie buff and often talks to himself, like I think he is lost in a movie script. Ask about a movie and he comments like a professional critic. It's funny.

^ Pls don't quote ^ that 

[lumina]

Ava


well we see, so far I don´t see anything memorable happening, except my weird dreams. lol But then Pluto rules my 12th house along with the 11th.

Interesting about your Sun-Pluto-progression, it is separating, and was at its peak in the second half of august. Was this when you started the job?

Sure no problem about announcing it. Actually I have more around there. in my natal

Moon 11.05 S (so your pr Sun is applying towards the exact parallel with my Moon)
Uranus 11.27 S
Pluto 11.40 N

pr Mercury 11.04 S
pr Uranus 11.48 S (pr Uranus is pretty much out of it - but it WAS in a very tight orb with my pr Mercury a bit ago, exact from 19th december 2016 - 5th january 2017; and pr Mercury was parallel my n Uranus exact from 29th january - 19th february 2018)


well the thread is about declinations in general, natal, synastry, progression.
I do think that my natal Mercury-Venus-parallel (out of bounds) makes sense as well as the Moon-Uranus-parallel which is contraparallel Pluto, and my Juno is also parallel Moon in particular and still in orb for paralel uranus and contra Pluto.


Also Neptune is of course very movie-prone. my Neptune is parallel Mars (and of course conjunct it), which is basically a Mars-Neptune-eclipse in my chart.

As you probably know eclipses only happen under certain "rules" like Sun and Moon have to be exactly conjunct or opposite AND the nodal axis has to be in 15 degrees range of Sun and Moon for an eclipse to happen. And another rule for it to occur is that Sun and Moon are ALSO parallel or contraparallel to each other. (however there apparently can be a bit of an orb between Sun and Moon in declination for it to happen, but it must not exceed 1°26 I think for a solar eclipse and under 55 minutes for a lunar eclipse)

In the case of the solar eclipse of august 2018, the New Moon was on 18°41 Leo with NN on 5°54 Leo (so within the 15 degree range the nodal axis must not exceed for an eclipse to happen) and Sun was at 15.13 N and Moon at 16.20 N.

this is actually an insightful article on the astronomy of the eclipses

astrologyclub.org/eclipses-and-the-moons-nodes/


anyway I basically have a Mars-Neptune-eclipse if something like that exists. lol

Also it means that during my birth if you could have seen it, Mars and Neptune were really at the same spot in the sky. This is usually not the case with conjunctions that happen only at the longitudes, if they have a different declination one planet is below or overhead the other planet, sometimes with a considerable distance event hough they have a conjunction in longitude. Only planets that are conjunct and parallel also LOOK like a conjunction in the sky.


As for myself, well my solar return this year was, hmm, well cerebral and strange. lol ASC in Virgo, on 17 Virgo, also putting DESC on my natal Juno exact and SR Neptune on 13 Pisces and Sr Mars on 20 pisces.

Interestingly MB has his Moon on 17 Virgo and I think Lancelot has his Moon in that range, too, and his NN is on 17 Virgo exact I think. and well they say you have contact with those that are having exact conjunctions to your SR chart, possibly esp. with the angles, personal planets and chartrulers.

my next Solar Return will have a widish Venus-Pluto-conjunction with 5°28 orb. Kind of interesting. Also since my SR ASC will be on 20 Scorpio (conj. Mars on 19 Scorpio), pluto and Venus will rule the ASC and DESC and come together on 21 and 27 Cap. (P will of course have his SR just a day later, and might be interesting for him as well, as his natal Venus is at 25 Cap, so he has his Solar Return and Venus Return within a very short time frame. well his SR Venus will be on 28 Cap, so the conjunction to SR Pluto will be a bit wider even. However unlike Me (I have been through this in 2012 I think) he will just be starting with the transit of Pluto over his natal Venus. Well it will just come into one degree orb next year before turning motion again, so he might have a preparation breathing pause before it will really start to hit his Venus in 2021 I think.

Of course the Tr Pluto square natal Pluto will be written into his year because it will be exact on his Solar Return (his natal Pluto is on 21 Libra, ruling the 8th house and falling into his intercepted part of the 7th house, just like I had the pleasure of having Tr Saturn being square my natal Pluto being exact on my Solar Return last year and being made lasting throughout the year because of that. Thank you very much. lol)

But yes, so it seems that next SR Venus-Pluto conjunction will mirror my progressed Venus-Pluto

my SR Venus will also be paralell SR Pluto (22.27 S - 22.16 S) - for P this parallel in his SR will even be closer, just 4 minutes of orb.

Yeah great, not enough that we have the Venus-Pluto-square in our individual natals (and therefore in composite as well. lol)

[Ava]

Hi lumina ,

"Interesting about your Sun-Pluto-progression, it is separating, and was at its peak in the second half of august. Was this when you started the job?"

Yes, August 26th. Well there's a lot coming to mind about that. I mean, sun-Pluto, and having to meet a bunch of new people?

It's like....

Hello, I'm sorry I lost myself...



Sun-Pluto, self-annihilation...

Well Michael Stipe is a Cap sun/Pisces moon so I find myself quoting him a lot. But really, that was the first time I re-emerged from my stay-at-home-mom cocoon and had to start explaining myself, putting my life in context retrospectively right on the spot to answer direct questions that I couldn't just dodge. Well occasionally I get caught like a deer in the headlights and say, "I don't want to answer that."

Now it's not like I've been completely sheltered, but most of the people I've been hanging out with in person have been women, and more specifically, other mothers. Now I'm out of that zone, which I must say, has a protective feeling to it. And now it's not like everyone I work with is Plutonian, but there is a lot more open discussion of Scorpio themes than I ever anticipated. It runs the whole gamut: sex, drugs, war, the occult...plus imprisonment, death....

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[lumina]

Ava


That description about "re-emerging" sounds very much like Sun-Pluto to me, at least progressionwise.
Of course you also have Sun square Pluto, so it is a theme anyway. 

The themes that come up definitely seem to match Pluto, also do not forget you have Moon in 8th house, you are very receptive and sensitive when it comes to these topics. However it is not like you are a curse or something. Your energy is probably just such, that it makes other people feel comfortable about sharing even the darker personal stuff, as they sense your compassion, understanding and well, you`ve been through such a lot! You can understand these things. 
This is for the deeper talks. 

However people are fascinated with the dark subjects, though in most cases they are talking about them far too flippantly, casually, like even though they talk about them, they do not really get near them. Don`t know how to explain. For me this is weird, no, not just weird, well I can talk about those things, but now and then, especially in casual small talk context, I have to leave the situation, because i cannot NOT empathize (Maybe my Saturn in 8th house, or my Moon contraparallel Pluto, Moon ruling 8th and Pluto ruling 12th house). 

Well Ive talked with my colleague, but he is very matter of factly about that, and well he is just recovering from a bout of skin cancer, and is still under surveillance, but as he just yesterday said: "Having children makes even death itself lose its horror." I get what he means, of course there is still the fear of not being there for the children, but at the same time ones own life (and even death) somehow becomes secondary to the children`s welfare and happiness. 
Well his Sun is conjunct Pluto. (I am aslo not completely agreeing with that phrase, but who am I to say something? If he feels it like this, then that is just so. It is HIS reality).



"that declination stellium is Crazy! 

Well his stellium there is so crazy, and you add your Sun to it, and those are all so nice planets, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune to your Sun, very uplifting and high spirited (Uranus and Neptune can of course sometimes be challenging, too, but in the combination with Sun, Venus, Jupiter they just look so really nice, well maybe very idealistic, too, otherworldly. Hmm P has a parallel of Venus and Neptune as well, and I think his Venus is at 22.39 S and Neptune at 21.45 S. could be wrong about Neptune though)

Also those planets are all hit at the current time by I think so at least Tr Jupiter (? - not sure), but the transiting Saturn-Pluto-conjunction might be around. Well these are serious times somehow. Seems we all are asked to "choose our pack" (do not even ask me where that came from, the phrase was just in my mind. lol)





"Solstice points and declinations are connected, right?
"
They are in terms of Sun and therefore also the nodes and angles (as those are also on the ecliptic), not necessarily with other planets, esp. not Pluto. But yeah very often solstice points are parallel (which is why some astrologers consider solstices as not really valid/ important, as the effect might be mistaken for parallels. Also at least in Sag- Cap, and Gemini - Cancer, I noticed that semisextiles often come with parallels. AT least in my charts. lol 






"About not having enough of your own time I totally can understand that. ACtually both Neptune and Pluto (transits/ aspects) describe a need for that, must be very difficult with all the earthy daily demands. But also a growth experience

[lumina]

Well P`s wife has a Sun-Pluto-Parallel (including Juno) natally: 

Sun 3.27 N
Pluto 3.23 N
Juno 3.09 N

which is parallel P`s Saturn at 3.14 N

Well I guess it makes sense, also some of the other declinational aspects ( I mean there has to be some kind of pull/ attraction/ fascination whatsoever, it has to come from somewhere, and it surely does not come from their longitudinal aspects, I don?t think so. They have some very intriguing declinational aspects, though this one here is a bit, ugh, very binding I guess, but don`t know I am not fond of Pluto-Saturn synastry or composite, unless it is connected to the softer energies in harmonious ways. I mean what is a bond/ tie without feeling/ emotion? 

But naturally I am a tinly little bit biased. LOL 


Still just wanting to point out she has a Sun-Pluto-parallel as very tight orbs (the declinational aspects change more slowly than longitudinal ones, usually at least), but I guess this is different to a progression, which is more about the process and development whereas the natal aspect just is. 

Well it makes me think (in the best case scenario) of extreme determination, and in the worst case scenario, well darker. lol 


Almost funny to think about that I have Moon-Pluto-contraparallel. lol and Moon-Juno-parallel and Juno-Pluto-contraparallel. though at different degrees. 

Well in my case Uranus is also in the mix. actually P and me we both have a natal Moon-Uranus-parallel. (at different degrees)
(His wife`s Uranus is parallel Neptune, but not to a personal planet, though she does have an exact trine of Uranus to her Mercury-Venus-conjunction)


Well her Sun-Juno-Pluto as I said is parallel P`s Saturn. 

in the case of my Moon-Juno-Pluto it is rather parallel/ contraparallel his Node and Priapus. 

my Moon 11.05 S
my Uranus 11.27 S
my Juno 10.22 S (well my Juno is a bit out of orb, but it is aspecting Moon within orbs, and I think Uranus could be counted too, not sure, the Pluto might maybe be really out of orb here)
his Priapus 11.08 S

my Pluto 11.40 N
his NN 10.59 N


It is a pretty moony-thing. lol (I mean the nodal axis is of course the nodal axis of the Moon, and Priapus is tied to the Moon as well, defined as the time when the Moon comes closest to earth, and is called a Supermoon, even with some scientist and well it seems he makes the tides more extreme. lol) 

[lumina]

Oh forgot it, his wife`s Priapus is at 3.44 S, so Hmm, in their case she seems to be carrying the Priapus-energy, in our synastry he provides Priapus.

But seriously Pluto AND Priapus (to Sun and Juno)? that seems a little overdoing the intensity/ determination/ fixation/ obsessing / passion thing. 

[Ava]

Nov 20, 2019 21:01:20 GMT lumina said:

 in our synastry he provides Priapus.

*snickers*

Well thank you for this commentary. Declination synastry is pretty illuminating...I mean that stuff with P and his wife made my eyes pop. 

"Your energy is probably just such, that it makes other people feel comfortable about sharing even the darker personal stuff..."

My point was more like, why does dark stuff seem to happen just when I arrive, or just before it? I had a thread about this at the other place, asking 8H moon people if they observed the same phenomenon. 
 
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[Ava]

^ That being said about declination conjunctions, with only about 30° total degrees N and S to work with, including the most common out-of-bounds range...the equivalent of one zodiac sign...I don't value them the same way as I value longitudinal conjunctions, which we are far less likely to have with people.

Anyway, hi again lumina and anyone else who might be reading even though it's a small forum and nobody else is talking on this thread.....

"Also at least in Sag- Cap, and Gemini - Cancer, I noticed that semisextiles often come with parallels. AT least in my charts. lol"

I guess that's why they are solstice points, not equinox points? And thanks for answering my question. I really want to go to astrology school so I'm stronger with the astronomy-based facts and have a more 3D understanding.

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[lumina]

Hi Ava


"I mean that stuff with P and his wife made my eyes pop.
"
Well they have some nice stuff going on too. Or initially nice like her Uranus and Neptune parallel his Venus (and I think her Jupiter is parallel his Moon).





"My point was more like, why does dark stuff seem to happen just when I arrive, or just before it?"
Because the dark stuff is part of life, it always happens. Well not every single day affecting you personally of course, but someone will be hit by it every passing day, and if people know other people and come together chances are the topic will come up. It doesn`t have anything to do with you coming to the scene.

[lumina]

"I don't value them the same way as I value longitudinal conjunctions, which we are far less likely to have with people.
"
I value longitudinal conjunctions more, too. But in my case I think this is because I am just more used to those. The habit I astrologically grew up with so to speak. That doesn`t say anything about the value (or lack) of declinations however. Actually I keep an open mind about it either way. 

However, what I DO think is that probably there is more power to the aspects that form in longitude AND declination (granted, tzhere won´t be that many). 

As for happening more often, yes probably, however the motion in the declination is different than in the longitudes and msot planets seem to dwell longer in declinations and therefore the aspects occur statistically less frequent than compared to the longitudes. however of course it is right that there is the difference in degrees. (30 vs 360). 

Also the relative orb is maybe interesting, a partile aspect in longitudes would be just 5 minutes of orb in declination (ha there the 5 minutes figure comes up once again!). 6 degree in longitude would be 30 minutes in declination (just the relative equal orb). 

Well another thing is that planets move much much MUCh slower when they come up to the solstice points. That is why some astrologers, including Charles Jayne suggest not a firm orb but an orb on a gliding scale with just a few minutes near the solstice points. 

Kannon Mc Affee states though that this just measn an aspect lasts longer in certain regions, and we do not narrow down the orb of a planet that goes stationary and retrograde in longitude either. Like Mercury-retrograde for example. It is not like we suddenly juust use 5 minutes of orb for a transit of this, it just pesters us longer than usually. which is a statement in itself. 

Anyway Charles Jayne was using the declination equivalent chart (a projection of the declinations onto the longitudes) just to see the orbs the declinational aspect would have in longitudes. 
Well  I do not like it that much, as P and me lose our nice mutual Sun-Venus-parallels this way. lol (they are I think around 45-50 minutes in orb, but since they are near the solstice the longitude equivalent give a conjunction of over 10 degrees. lol) 

Also question is does it even make sense this transforming? Declinations are NO longitudes. I mean we do not trasnform the normal longitudes into declinational degrees either! which we acutlaly could. maybe this would be fun. lol 

Now and then I like to play around with those charts nevertheless. You know open mind ... and such. and mostly playing around with potentials. But I am sceptical of their value still. 

BUT of course because of what I am used to in astrology (the longitude-glasses), seeing something like Moon opposite Pluto somehow gets a different vibe than Moon contraparallel Pluto. lol 





I guess that's why they are solstice points, not equinox points?
Yes, might be true for the quinox poitns too and I think the mid of the fixed signs.


"Why do you put so much distance between your moon and his Priapus? lol
"
yeah 3 minutes, soooo far. lol 




"I've been thinking of Juno lately, well it's transiting @ 5 Libra, trine my Mercury.....seems to be a kind of glue, like Saturn? Or it makes people want to become attached...?
"
Oh did not know that. so Juno at my MC (and actually P`s wife having her Juno-return around now or recently. lol I think her Juno is on 4 Libra, squaring Neptune though)


"I guess for me it's the opposite, I wouldn't fear it so much except I feel a strong need to be here for my children as long as possible.
"
That was my take on this too!



"Well good, maybe something scandalous will happen.
"
LOL doubtful



Okay, for example...I'm noticing my SR for 2020 has Mercury out of bounds.

I have it natally, Mercury aned Venus out of bounds and parallel. 
Venus also parallel Sun, Mercury just out of orb, but of course conjunct Sun. 


So a mercurial year for you? 

Chiron - reminds me of something - weren`t there a few SR`s when I had angular Chiron? Gotta check it later. 



TTYL

[anela]

Ava I was going to say the same thing as lumina, and also: there is no way that you are a bad omen.

[glaucus]

I don't know why astrologers that use Declination don't use Right Ascension.
They work together for they are the Equatorial Coordinates. Declination is Equatorial Latitude, and Right Ascension is Equatorial Longitude.
Both of those coordinates are used to locate and track objects in the actual sky by astronomers.

I use both Right Ascension and Declination.

[Ava]

glaucus

Do you use zodiacal RA, as given on this site?

true-node.com/eph1/

[12YearsABlob]

Thanks for the information, lumina .. I've also been skeptical of declinations because it seems like they should happen fairly often. However, to the extent that I've seen charts, they don't happen as often as I'd expect, so maybe not...

[glaucus]

I prefer to use the Sidereal Times for the Right Ascension.
Astronomers measure Right Ascension by hours and not degrees.
That's one of the reasons why I enjoy the Prometheus Astrology program.
I recommend it for anybody who wants a multidimensional approach to Astrology like myself.
I love the 3D Globe!

BTW...I have found another way to figure out parans.
I have been checking them out in the Z-Analogue Diurnal Arc charts in Solar Fire.
I came to the idea because Robert Hand has a hypothesis that parans work because of diurnal rhythms.
He doesn't use parans based on the objects though.
His parans are based on the degrees of the objects.
Like Bernadette Brady, I prefer body motion to be a factor in looking at parans. 
With Solar Fire, I look at parans by seeing objects on angles at the same time that Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,Mars on angles in the Z-Analogue Diurnal Arc chart. 
Solar Fire gives Rising,Setting,Culminating,Anticulminating times for the Sun,Moon,planets,and other objects.
I also look at angular objects at the moment of my birth by looking at a Z-Analogue Diurnal Arc chart  of my natal.
I have been using the Z-Analogue Diurnal Arc method with the planets,transneptunian objects,asteroids,and fixed stars.

Robert Hand did write that parans and declinations might have a connection in his book, Essays On Astrology.

I noticed something with Pluto's fellow transneptunian object, Orcus in my Astrological Nativity.

Sun contraparallel Orcus - '00 in Declination
Sun oppose Orcus - '01 in Declination Longitude Equivalent Chart
Sun Set, Orcus Anticulm square paran - '04
Sun Culm, Orcus Set square paran - '02



As for my Declination and Longitude Equivalent
not including those with corresponding Ecliptic Longitude


Sun parallel 2002 MS4 - '01 in Declination
Sun conjunct 2002 MS4 - '03 in Declination Longitude Equivalent

Mercury parallel Neptune - '33 in Declination
Mercury conjunct Neptune - 2'12 in Declination Longitude Equivalent

Venus parallel Neptune - '46 in Declination
Venus conjunct Neptune - 3'06 in Declination Longitude Equivalent

Mercury contraparallel Saturn - '38 in Declination
Mercury oppose Saturn - 2'33 in Declination Longitude Equivalent

Venus contraparallel Saturn - '52 in Declination
Venus oppose Saturn - 3'28 in Declination Longitude Equivalent


My Declination aspects with corresponding ecliptic longitude conjunctions,oppositions:

Mercury parallel Venus - '13 in Declination
Mercury conjunct Venus - 3'26 in Ecliptic Longitude

Saturn contraparallel Neptune - '05 in Declination
Saturn oppose Neptune - 3'19 in Ecliptic Longitude

I have a 4 planet configuration of Mercury-Venus-Neptune parallel in contraparallel to Saturn in Declination.
I have a 4 planet configuration of Mercury-Venus-Neptune conjunction in opposition to Saturn in Declination Longitude Equivalent.


I have a 3 object configuration of Sun-2002 MS4 parallel in contraparallel to Orcus in Declination.
I have a 3 object configuration of Sun-2002 MS4 parallel in opposition to Orcus in Declination Longitude Equivalent.

2002 MS4 is another of Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects. 

















In his book, Horoscope Symbols, Robert Hand didn't seem to think that parallels and contraparallels in Declination were significant unless they had corresponding conjunctions and oppositions in Declination Longitude Equivalent chart.




It was Magi Astrology that got me interested in looking at Declination in Astrology.
It is also regularly used in Cosmobiology.
Both astrological systems include the use of Declination midpoints. 
Because of my multidimensional approach that includes Ecliptic Longitude, Right Ascension, Declination and Parans , I do not use midpoints.
I also take in consideration 3D aspects because they take both Ecliptic Longitude and Ecliptic Latitude into account. 
I also prefer smaller orbs than most astrologers use like I don't use no more than 5 degrees for the regular stuff in Astrology. 
I got that idea from Robert Hand. 
The geometrically oriented astrologers tend to use considerably smaller orbs for aspects.
Magi Astrology doesn't use no more than 3 degrees for major aspects, but they also use the same orb for the quincunx and semisextile.