Saturn chasing the Moon

[lumina]

Hi, 

there is this pheonmenon called "Saturn chasing the Moon", Tr Saturn aspecting pr Moon, it can last a long time. well in my case it is Tr Saturn square pr Moon, it is just on the verge of beginning and it will last for 10 years or so. Thank you very much!
There will be breathing pauses in between, but seems that every august in the next year it will become exact again. 

It also starts with me having pr Moon squaring pr Saturn and then n Saturn, which will last for the next 6 months. (at the moment pr Moon at 12 Libra, pr Saturn at 13 Cancer, n Saturn at 16°57 Cancer, so about 6 months until it is done with). 

And after that I am still left with that stupid transit. 


Just wondering when you ahve had it and what experiences you had in these times? (needless to say it is one of the harshest transtis according to pretty much all astrologers. - so Yay! Lol)

but maybe some of you experienced great things? Like career breakthroughs, marriages, etc. Yeah probably not so much, okay, okay. I AM grasping for straws. Just indulge me.  

But seriously I am really interested in learning about real life experiences of that phenonemon of Tr Saturn square pr Moon. 

[lumina]

oh just because it is always connected, when pr Moon will square my natal Saturn exact, it will ALSO trine my natal Moon exact (and natal Saturn conjunct pr DESC in Cancer)

[Ava]

One of these was a real low point.

Pr moon @ 6 Libra square tr Saturn @ 6 Cap. Both of these aspecting my ASC-Mercury-Venus-Uranus quadrilateral at 5-7°.

What's that saying?




^ Mercury 

Meanwhile, though, good things were happening, it wasn't wall-to-wall darkness. 

Then there was another "hit" earlier this year...

Pr moon 16 Libra square tr Saturn 16 Cap

That was exact on Valentine's Day. My ex was really nice to me (he's always loved that holiday and is really nice to everyone around that time -- Libra stellium.) Years ago when I first learned about progressions, I *never* would have guessed that pr moon square tr Saturn was going to bring me...a Valentine from my estranged ex??!! Sure it was just platonic but really happy, fun & high-spirited....almost surreal that life ever took that turn. 

So yup, good things can happen.   

pls don't quote

[lumina]

Ava

Thank you. That is an encouraging thing with the valentine. It was also aspecting your natal sun I think.


I remember a few years back I had a series of squares from tr saturn to n moon. Curiously each of them oincided with an encounter with P, very tangible. Something so real about those but not depressing at all.


I also just realized that our moon saturn progressions are synchronized somewhat. He will have pr moon square saturn I. December, the waning square, I have the waxing square, so complementary aspect phases.

I terestingly his wife's pr moon is Co junct mine, but of course her saturn isn't. Actually some interesting cycles.

[lumina]

Just wondering if the midpoint of that square would be interesting.

[Ava]

Oh so you, M, and I all have pr moon in Libra? How crazy would it be if you & M had your pr moons tracking together exactly?

I'm reading a library book on predictive astrology and it gets so supremely complicated. Right now I want to simplify and concentrate on degrees:

"It was also aspecting your natal sun I think."

Yes. If we consider it a 16° "thing" then it aspected my sun, Mars, Jupiter, along with his draconic sun and pr Saturn (in exact opposition at that point), plus tr Neptune @ 15 Pisces. Ooo, all the raw materials for a synastric Grand Sextile, if we pull from several charts (is that cheating?)

16 Aries, my natal Jupiter
16 Gem, my natal Mars, his solar arc SN
15 Leo, his pr Saturn
16 Libra, my pr moon
16 Sag, his SA NN-Uranus
15 Aqua, his draconic sun

Transiting Saturn thinks it can step into this territory and mess it up? Heck no, join the party.

"I also just realized that our moon saturn progressions are synchronized somewhat. He will have pr moon square saturn I. December, the waning square, I have the waxing square, so complementary aspect phases."

Well don't forget me, I'm your third wheel in the astral realm and I am coming up on pr moon square pr Saturn, too.



Pls don't quote

Sometimes I forget this is a public forum and say more than I actually wanted to say publically.

[lumina]

Ava


"How crazy would it be if you & M had your pr moons tracking together exactly?
"
Using a noon birthtime for her her pr Moon is only 2 degrees ahead of mine. But they seem to differ in speed, in 2 years, the difference will be 6 degrees. 

Oh wow she has an extremely fast moon at the moment! 15°- that is like the fastest possible. 
My pr Moon is also pretty fast, 14°.

well in 2 years her pr MOon will still be at 15°, while mine seems to slow down to 13°. hence she is basically moving away from this. 


in 2025 the difference will already be 13 degrees, though by then her Moon gettins slower again, maybe it comes closer back?

No does not look like that, in 2029 they will be actually 17 or 18 degrees apart, so I think it is a temporary occurrence of our pr Moons being so close to each other, now I am curious, when this started. lol 



Okay, in 2015, both in Leo, they were 5 degrees apart (always using noontime for her, so the timeframes could be a bit different in reality of course. Like happening half a year before or after) 

3 degrees in 2017, in Virgo. 


Last july/august they first came into that 2 degree orb. interesting. I mean I know this is just assuming a noon time for her, but it is still interesting. 

and just around now leaving the 2 degree orb again into a 3 and more. 


Well but also with her pr Moon in LIbra, either in preceding months, now or up to half a year from now she is having pr Moon opposing her natal Sun. 
P actually has the same thing happening in december or maybe in janurary next year, pr Moon opposing his n Sun. 

my most recent aspect was pr Moon squaring my natal Sun last summer (and just last week I was having pr Moon on 11 LIbra trine pr Sun on 11 Aquarius, kinda like that one. lol) 


my pr Moon squaring natal Sun was pretty great though, I was having coffee, participating in auctions and getting some hugs. lol But then again it also put my pr Moon on his natal DESC exact, might have helped. lol 




as for your line up
LOL

I think Tr Saturn made it manifest actually. 



ell don't forget me, I'm your third wheel in the astral realm and I am coming up on pr moon square pr Saturn, too.

Never would I forget you. Yes you have it, 

and actually my best friend has it too. 

She has pr Moon square pr SAturn in january. and pr Moon square n Saturn in october, so exactly the same months becoming exact as for me, just for her it is from Scorpio-Leo, and for me it is Libra-Cancer. 

Seems we are all on the same cycle. LOL 

but let me check when it is really exact for me

pMoon square pSaturn: 13 Libra - 13 Cancer (october)
pMoon square n Saturn: 16 Libra - 16 Cancer (january, actually on the 6th january, in the night to 7th january. and Well of course Tr Sun and Tr Saturn will be doing a number there. 


for P it is: 

p Moon square pSaturn and n Saturn (they are both still on 26 Virgo, practically stationary): 26 Gemini - 26 Virgo
pMoon opposite n Sun: 26 Gemini - 26 Sag at the same time: january 2020

Actually his pMoon square n Saturn is exact on 7th- 8th january (p Moon square pSaturn on 5th-6th january)

But that means that we both have pMoon square natal Saturn exact basically on the same day! 

Since we have the complementary phases, it should result in a composite alignment. Let me check


Yes indeed: 6th-7th january

prc Moon 21°49 Leo
c-Saturn 21°49 Leo

And this here (using the last option on astro com for progressing angles, but I read in several sources that this is the most valid one, even though it is not the default on astro.com)


pr c ASC 29°58 Pisces
pr c MC 29°58 Sagittarius



"Sometimes I forget this is a public forum and say more than I actually wanted to say publically."
Me, too. 

[anela]

I have this with the conjunction. My progressed moon is almost out of Capricorn, so I don't know when it will happen again, but they always seem to interact at some point.

[lumina]

anela

while Moon-SAturn is always a "usual suspect" for low moods and depressions, I think the conjunction in particular is also the start of a new cycle, though of course with all the seriousness Saturn brings.

Tr Saturn might meet up with your pr Moon in Aquarius again? Or maybe you are done with that transit? They do end eventually, for some people sooner as for others.

Hmm do you have the square natally?
it seems that every few years /decades if we have natal Moon-SAturn aspects they meet again in the Transit-progressed scenario, albeit in other aspects.

My natal quinkunx apparently became a square. *sighs*

For P at least for a past occurrence (do not know when he is going to have it again), it became from a natal square to a transiting-progressed trine.