Saturn in Sagittarius Experiences?

[the89freespirit]

We are in the final stretches of Saturn in Sagittarius. In December, Saturn will move into Capricorn. And I will begin my Saturn Return in the 12th shortly after and drink lots of vodka. Just kidding (kind of).

But, looking back, how do you think this transit has impacted you? I, for one, see a marked difference between this and Saturn in Scorpio, which freaking buried me and so many other people. Saturn in Sagittarius is a much lighter energy but still has its challenges. For me, it spent a lot of time (up until the latter part of last year), in my 10th House. Saturn hit my Midheaven when it was in Scorpio and that kicked off things getting serious with my blog and my readings. As it continued into Sag and stayed in my 10th, I felt a newfound freedom by being able to be a professional astrologer, working very freely on my own time and by my own rules. But, I also felt newfound pressure because I had to do all of this work by myself and not rely on anyone else. Great freedom comes with great responsibility (I know that's not the phrase but work with me here). That's the true lesson of Saturn in Sagittarius and I felt it, a lot, in my career matters. I also am an aspiring performer and I spent a lot of time trying to independently produce projects which, again, was both very liberating and very stressful.

Saturn moved into my 11th around November and I suddenly got super-serious about what was happening in the world (thank you, US Election). It's to the point where I am actually less focused on my personal career goals now because I have been so involved in worrying about the greater good. I have found strength in voicing my political opinions more freely. Well, in even just having a strong political opinion and not trying to be all neutral and nonjudgmental. No silence in the face of oppression and all that. I take that pretty seriously now. But, there is so much going on in the world that it does feel like a challenge (however, I know that's not very unique, either). Also, I am quite dedicated to having a social life. Years ago, I used to love being a twenty-something grandpa and staying in a lot. But, now, I really put a lot of effort into going out and meeting new people. I have met and made connections with a lot of people in my local bar scene. The difficult thing is the detachment of the 11th House, so it feels like I'm making a lot of friends and I'm not making any at the same time. That's the kind of friendship that's found in the 11th: the distant, here-today and gone-tomorrow kind. I'm also more distant with my close friends, as well. I'm more of a loner than usual these days but also more eager to be sociable. Again, I guess it's the price of social freedom. Being friendly with everyone but attached to no one is freeing yet challenging. All of this is also making me more committed to living out my Aquarius NN/Rising.

Enough of my essay, though. What have you guys' experiences been?

[Deleted]

Well, my Saturn is in Sagittarius, so I've been experiencing my Saturn return these past couple of years. I've had a LOT go on, and all of it has been helping me to come out of my shell and grow. A big important thing is that I've become much more comfortable in my own skin. This is the list of things that have happened to me since end of 2014:

• Kicked a guy whom I liked to the curb because he was no good for me and was making my life hell
• Got made redundant and then brought back to work a week later as a sub-contractor, which got the ball rolling to eventually have my own little business. The redundancy payment covered the cost of my overseas trip
• Decided to grow up and go to the dentist for the first time in 14 years to make sure my teeth were ok
• Got a blood test for the first time in 7 years to check the state of my health. I found out I had high sugar levels and the doctor claimed I had high overall cholesterol levels, though more recent research has indicated that people have been interpreting cholesterol levels incorrectly all this time and the correct way of looking at them indicate that mine are actually very healthy. Nevertheless, despite this misunderstanding of cholesterol levels, I still had to deal with my sugar levels, so I cut out soft drinks pretty much entirely. This test kickstarted the need to be more health-conscious
• Went on an overseas trip by myself for the first time ever and finally tried to practice speaking in a foreign language
• Started taking singing more seriously and was enrolled in two choirs where I was singing two different requiems. I ended up getting into a great choir later on
• I know this one may sound a bit trivial, but I started dressing more in style, which indicated that I was coming into my own skin and becoming confident in expressing myself this way. Appearances do count
• Picked up tennis to try and be more healthy, though I must admit I wasn't consistent with it and eventually dropped it
• In 2016, I started to really take my health into my hands through dieting. I had another blood test, which showed my sugar levels went back up. I got worried about this even though I'd cut out soft drinks pretty much entirely, so I went on a high fat low sugar diet and ended up losing a few centimetres around my waist and have managed to keep it off. Sugar levels have dropped
• I left my job for a new one, but my old job ended up becoming my client for my small business because they wanted me to continue working for them. I set up a home office and continued to work for them while holding down a new full-time job
• Made some new friends: I met a girl who was looking for the nearest tram stop like me because we both stumbled upon one where trams weren't running that day. We got to talking, exchanged numbers, then through her I met all these new people, a couple of whom I became very close to in a short period. Because of this, I started having an overly active social life, whereas before I was like a hermit.
• Underwent some drug-free therapy to overcome an OCD habit I'd had for half my life and managed to get cured of it. Well, 99%. Sometimes I get some urges but, unlike before, I can control them
• Made the decision to move overseas and start a new life
• Am now in a new country trying to build my life

Saturn in Sagittarius has brought me a lot. Probably more than average because it's also my Saturn return. I know it's a long list, but it's just that I'm very happy with the changes. I have felt that this period has been much more bright than Saturn in Scorpio was. With Saturn in Scorpio, I was sinking into some hellish depths and had some unhealthy habits and obsessive patterns of thinking. I became a person that I was ashamed to be.

[the89freespirit]

@bonsai

That's really interesting. I'm curious as to what house your Saturn is in and what aspects it's making in your natal chart. My best friend is actually going through his Saturn Return in Sagittarius right now, as well. His Saturn is at the very end of the 9th and conjunct the Midheaven. I feel like he went through quite a few challenges for the past couple of years because transiting Saturn was in his 9th the whole time. The Saturn Return is felt, I think, as long as transiting Saturn is in natal Saturn's house. He had quite a few trials back then. Now, it doesn't sound like things are so difficult for him. He makes it sound like everything is fine and maybe they are. But, I do know he struggles with wanting to get a new job and being scared of making the moves to do it (he has a lot of anxiety over interviews and has always gotten jobs through easy connections).

The astrologer in me suspects he's just bottling those feelings up. But, I don't press him on it because everyone has to deal with things in their own way.

@ceri

Yeah, I know. I'm sure many people will be feeling the retrograde. It's going to be sextile my North Node throughout the year and, if it goes back far enough, it'll go back to squaring my Venus. But, I didn't feel the Venus square Saturn transit that negatively. I actually started dating someone during that time and even though it was very short-lived (it effectively ended as soon as Saturn stopped squaring my Venus, although we are still friends), it was the first time in a long time for me that things didn't end with a terrible taste in my mouth. I guess I became more mature when it comes to love.

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Saturn's in my 3rd house and makes a loose trine to my Sun in 11th (orb of 6.5) and an even looser trine to Mercury in 11th (or of just under 7-7.5) and forms a semi-sextile with Pluto (2nd) and Neptune (4th). It's not badly aspected, it just doesn't have the strongest aspects. However, my natal Saturn is stationary direct, so it might have a bigger influence.

Saturn also rules my 5th house and, if traditional rulership is used, my 6th house too because Aquarius is on that cusp. Curiously enough, those houses are empty. From what I've read, Saturn return will last while it's in the sign of your natal Saturn sign. Saturn's entered my 4th house but I think I'm still feeling its effects. I mean, I guess it makes sense, otherwise picture a person having the shortest Saturn return just because their Saturn is in 0º of a particular sign and that zero degree is very close to the cusp of the next house. They'd barely have time to experience anything then!

[Ava]

the89freespirit

Loved your "essay" 👍

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[the89freespirit]

@bonsai, I'm not exactly sure if it lasts the entire time that Saturn is in the sign. I think that some people's Saturn Returns are longer or shorter than others. If someone had that situation - Saturn at the end of a house and beginning of a sign - they might experience some difficulties before their Saturn Return that sets the stage for it, since transiting Saturn would be in that house.

Also, I think it lasts as long as transiting Saturn is conjunct natal Saturn by 8 degrees or less. So, even if Saturn leaves the house, the Saturn Return can still be felt as long as it's still conjunct Saturn in your birth chart.

And thanks, Ava. That's interesting that so many of the men in your life are or were Saturn in Sagittarius people. So, your husband is in his Saturn Return now or just went through it. Did you notice any changes in him?

[Ava]

the89freespirit

It's been a good second return for him, he seems to have come into his own, happier and steadier moods. He has four planets in Leo so perhaps tr Saturn has been steadying to them all. Tr Saturn trine Leo Mars seems to have been especially good.