Venus-Jupiter synastry

[Ava]

Today:

14 Leo Venus
14 Sag Jupiter

Got me thinking about this aspect in synastry. 

I've seen Venus magnetized to Jupiter like white on rice (white rice, that is). The conjunction seems irresistible, yet perhaps overconfidence can be a problem, and also over-inflation of the significance of it, without all the necessary tending to minor details and mundane problems. I've seen this pattern.

Seems a bit vulnerable, like a fairytale aspect. Then again I have Sag Venus, so this is just my life.

Wondering if you have any experiences/opinions?

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[anela]

I don't know. I've mentioned a guy at the bookstore, and his Jupiter was conjunct my Moon/Venus/SN. I don't know him well at all, but he's friendly to everyone. I can see Jupiter in Gemini there, easily. Also the Aries Sun. I know his birthday, because I heard him telling someone, one day, and that his siblings were all born around that same time.

[Deleted]

I never notice venus Jupiter aspect. I have the trine natally so anyone in my class would sorta aspect me. I guess maybe that’s why this aspect makes you popular. I have a square with someone currently. And Jupiter in Leo (opposite my sun) tends to be attracted to me.



I hardly ever know/attract Virgo Venus ... I don’t think I’ve attracted Capricorn Jupiter either even tho they should be 4-5 years older than me.

I can’t think of anyone with that aspect with me. And I don’t notice I have any jup-venus in my composites. What’s wrong with me?

[lumina]

I seem to be subtly drawn to this aspect. 2 actors I have been in contact with in recent years have their venus conjunct my jupiter. P's pr venus was conjunct my natal jupiter when we started to interact more. My brothers venus is conjunct my jupiter. Well p's jupiter trines my venus. My jupiter semisquares his venus.i like jupiter aspecting venus or Mars.

[Ava]

Aug 9, 2019 6:18:40 GMT @theunknown said:

I can’t think of anyone with that aspect with me. And I don’t notice I have any jup-venus in my composites. What’s wrong with me?

Maybe with a natal Cap Venus in a Cap stellium, you aren't attracted to this energy?

In my experience it can almost be like fizzy lifting drink. 

[Ava]

Aug 9, 2019 6:53:33 GMT lumina said:

I seem to be subtly drawn to this aspect. 2 actors I have been in contact with in recent years have their venus conjunct my jupiter. P's pr venus was conjunct my natal jupiter when we started to interact more. My brothers venus is conjunct my jupiter. Well p's jupiter trines my venus. My jupiter semisquares his venus.i like jupiter aspecting venus or Mars.

Yeah, it's nice for platonic or family relationships.

I know a guy whose Aries Venus is conjunct my Jupiter (on my draconic Venus) and it seems like we are always on the verge of spoiling the moderately serious conversation by laughing too hard about something that isn't even that funny. It's like we set each other off, like two kids who have stayed up too late and are prone to the giggles. 

[12YearsABlob]

Aug 8, 2019 15:40:46 GMT Ava said:

I've seen Venus magnetized to Jupiter like white on rice (white rice, that is). 

LOL. 

Hmm, I see how it can lead to overconfidence.. However, I haven't experienced it as insubstantial per se. Maybe that's offset by Saturn in my synastry examples or other people's examples might also have Neptune/Uranus?
Whether or not it pans out (for me) seems to depend on other aspects to my Moon/Venus in addition to this - i.e. the Jupiter part seems neutral (in terms of stability in the Saturn sense). 

Anyway, have to run right now but I'll check some examples and be back with more.. 

[lumina]

Ava

Depends how you interpret platonic.
😉 It is actually a mix. Esp. Mars with jupiter.

[Ava]

Aug 10, 2019 16:27:03 GMT lumina said:

Ava

Depends how you interpret platonic.
😉 It is actually a mix. Esp. Mars with jupiter.

LOL...well, like 12YearsABlob was saying above, it's not necessarily an aspect that tends towards a full-blown relationship, other factors do apply.

I think it's more like friendliness at first....but Jupiter is huge, so it looms near sensitive Venus, and Venus might get curious wondering, "What ARE you?" and there is a lot to it. But some situations aren't conducive to romance. And I think it's no guarantee of attraction. 

But when there is attraction I think it might escalate quickly, because there is less friction. 

Last night I had the craziest dream. I sought out my Cap ex. No idea why I dreamed about him but the emotional energy was exactly like being back in time, when I was 15 and he was 17. So weird though, I had gone to him with all these problems, really an obvious mess, and meanwhile he was taking care of a dying woman, running a very hectic coffee shop, and trying to get together with another girl, whose birth chart he had artistically drawn on the wall. Still he was trying to give me his full attention.

Natally he has Venus conjunct Jupiter @ 11 & 14 Aqua. I have 6 Sag Venus, 16 Aries Jupiter...so his Venus is exactly conjunct my Venus-Jupiter midpoint. 

[lumina]

Ava Well no aspect works isolated. But I have come across it quite frequently in romantic relationships and marriages.

Interesting dream, seems rather descriptive.

[lumina]

I have to say so I find mars-jupiter more often

[Ava]

Hi lumina ,

Typically I can barely remember my dreams, but I remember all kinds of little details from that one. He and I have sun conjunct sun, and this is weirdish but our body types are similar, like we are thin with strong abs, and he isn't much taller than me, so it crossed my mind that I was actually symbolically hugging myself through that dream. (?) Well our real-life rapport was borderline telepathic anyway. You know, sun conjunct sun.

In real life one day, I was sitting on a see-saw in the park, and he got down to my level, ceremoniously removed his beloved tulsa-bead necklace, told me the story of how much Krishna loved the tulsa plant, and he put the necklace on me. Me with Sag Venus, him with Venus-Jupiter. Isn't that so fitting? lol He was a vegetarian before it was common and listened to Hindu chants on the tape deck in his truck. Then when I dated him again four years later, he was a meat-eating US Marine with no apparent interest in spirituality. Meh, chart progressions, they affect us all. 

Mars-Jupiter, hmmm

Well are you gonna start a thread?

[FruityLlama]

I don't know any Aries Jupiters but they would be quite a lot younger than me I think. I do tend to like Sag Venus. With Sag energy generally I have found to end up in giggles the most, along with Gemini and I am guessing this might have something to do with my Jupiter. My n.Venus and mars trine it aswell which might add to it. In terms of sense of humour and having fun, these signs and I get on really well.

OH I take that back about Aries Jupiter, I was just thinking my sister has it in Pisces. I do know some Aries Jupiters obviously Ava haha!

[12YearsABlob]

*blah blah blah* Jupiter glossing over things. 

Not in the Neptune sense of denial, but -- just sidestepping the sometimes unpleasant conversations you have to have. 

"Good Jupiter", ironically enough, can make it easy to have these conversations with love and tact. Depends on what soup you get.

Re: overconfidence: 
(Most) Jupiter faith is based on real potential (Neptune's is based on faith alone). So, it seems relatively harmless, but... Humans will be human. And humans disappoint. On those days, you need someone who still thinks you're valuable and good, which Neptune can find hard to do. Jupiter (if positively expressed), will still find something to commend you no matter what. Their faith is not as easily shaken, IME. So, even if they do overestimate your abilities a little, they'll not be sorely disillusioned like Neptune. They know it's a rough world, and they'll find the one good thing about yourself even you can't see today. 

Their maturity informs their reaction to disappointment. An older, wiser Jupiter will know by now that he overreaches and sometimes over-promises and over-zealously adopts every new idea. He may not be able to stop those impulses, but he'll be aware of them. 

*On some level, I feel like my Libra side is a bit relieved about sidestepping that too. But there's a time for not mentioning things and there's a time for clearing the air. 

[anela]

My had a bit of a fever last night, and when I was in the giddy stage of it, I picked up my laptop and just sent an apology, because I realized I hadn't actually said the words at some point, and it bothers me when people never apologize. My sister did that: never used the word, but bought things. My dad will sometimes do that, even though he knows that I don't like a present as an apology (especially an expensive one). I will always associate it with what was done, instead of enjoying it for it is. My sister actually said that she hates to apologize. I spent my life saying I was sorry, even if it was someone else's fault. 

I am avoidant, but that's because of my anxiety. And I haven't been well. When I'm feeling better, I just want to relax for a while. But that's why I dealt with something at the end of June, rather than avoiding. As soon as it happened. I have the sextile natally, I don't know how many people I have this with in synastry. My sister's Jupiter is in my 7th. 

[anela]

I have Mars-Jupiter with S, and possibly with my sister. I can't remember the degree of her Jupiter. My Jupiter is in her first house. I need to go back to sleep. 

[12YearsABlob]

Aug 13, 2019 21:28:30 GMT anela said:

I am avoidant, but that's because of my anxiety. And I haven't been well. When I'm feeling better, I just want to relax for a while. But that's why I dealt with something at the end of June, rather than avoiding. As soon as it happened.

Oh, I'm avoidant too, hon.. Don't feel badly about it. It's complicated.

Besides, your equation with everybody is different. So, if everything is *understood*, there's no need to talk about it more and poke at the sore spot. Only thing is, that's not always the case. Unspoken resentments are the number 1 relationship killer IME. Or at least in the top 5, lol. 

And kudos to you for dealing with that situation right away. I don't think I've ever dealt with anything right after it happened. 

Re: apologies though... Some people, I don't even need them from, because I know exactly how they feel. It's those people that don't really "get" the situation (acc. to me) that frustrate me. But even for them, I realized that it's pointless to expect that much. There's a small clip of Will Smith speaking about something similar. "Fault vs responsibility", if you're curious, you can google it. A small dose of tough love, but I totally agree with what he says. If they didn't care when they hurt you, they're not going to care about your feelings *now*. The real question is, can you care enough about your own feelings to try to fix your heart... So, if I wait for closure, understanding or compassion from those people, I'll be waiting forever and my heart's frozen in place. But if I try to turn that love inward and fix myself, it lightens the load so much. It's great in theory, but difficult to bring about in everyday life. Been trying for many years - and it's a slow, torturous process, but completely worth it. Even if I make only 10% progress.

Oh, and, I hope I wasn't too critical up there. I understand the impulse - when I regret causing anybody pain, I want to make it up to them every which way and pamper the shit out of them  (I have Venus conjunct Jupiter myself). The point I was trying to make is that - if the physical gesture is without the *feeling*, that makes it seem hollow. 

[Ava]

Aug 12, 2019 19:36:18 GMT FruityLlama said:

OH I take that back about Aries Jupiter, I was just thinking my sister has it in Pisces. I do know some Aries Jupiters obviously Ava haha!

I think we might have the conjunction going both ways? Might depend on the orbs. I have

6 Sag Venus
16 Aries Jupiter

And look how much fun we have!

[Ava]

Aug 13, 2019 17:26:35 GMT 12YearsABlob said:

One thing I've noticed is that people with Jupiter in hard aspect to my Venus (and sometimes moon) tend to apologize with gifts. They won't actually say they're sorry, but I'll find a little something on my desk, or tucked into a drawer. 

This is so cute. And this is us, I think! Your Jupiter squares my Venus. No need to apologize for anything, it's all good, but if you ever feel like leaving some dark chocolate or sparkly pencils on my desk "just because" -- that's more than welcome.

kidding

My college boyfriend's Pisces Jupiter was out of orb to square my Venus, it's about 9. I can't remember him apologizing for anything. Well it's exactly like you quoted here: "If they didn't care when they hurt you, they're not going to care about your feelings *now*." Even if he did apologize...the underlying problem was, we were incompatible.

Aug 13, 2019 17:26:35 GMT 12YearsABlob said:

Re: overconfidence: 
(Most) Jupiter faith is based on real potential (Neptune's is based on faith alone). So, it seems relatively harmless, but... Humans will be human. And humans disappoint. On those days, you need someone who still thinks you're valuable and good, which Neptune can find hard to do. Jupiter (if positively expressed), will still find something to commend you no matter what. Their faith is not as easily shaken, IME. So, even if they do overestimate your abilities a little, they'll not be sorely disillusioned like Neptune. They know it's a rough world, and they'll find the one good thing about yourself even you can't see today.

That sounds amazing! Where can I find one of these Jupiter people, I wonder.

Well my Sag Neptune is Jupiterish. 🤔

Admittedly through last year I struggled because my ex's ex can do no wrong even though she cheated on him, lied to him, manipulated everything to drive me away, which hurt him........on and on, but like I said, she can do no wrong. His Jupiter on her Venus.

I tried to not say that and not make this thread about them but it really makes me scratch my head. Is Venus-Jupiter always that rugged and forgiving?

[12YearsABlob]

Aug 14, 2019 12:15:36 GMT Ava said:

This is so cute. And this is us, I think! Your Jupiter squares my Venus. No need to apologize for anything, it's all good, but if you ever feel like leaving some dark chocolate or sparkly pencils on my desk "just because" -- that's more than welcome.

Ha.. I shouldn't have mentioned this, it sounds cute, and it can be in the right context. But I was trying to say something else.. Anyway, can't explain I guess.