Buddhist asteroids

[Ava]

Any ideas? I know little about Buddhism, but I thought these might apply:

908 Buda
3315 Chant
3811 Karma
429 Lotis
6475 Refugium

679 Pax
12472 Samadhi
6116 Still
37452 Spirit
3402 Wisdom

908, 3315, 3811, 429, 6475, 679, 12472, 6116, 37452, 3402

Checking this link for terms...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

Still looking:
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi

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I have Buda @ 3 Aqua conjunct my Mercury. Makes sense that I would start this thread.   

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[midnight]

Oh this is interesting. I noticed one thing, I often attract Buddhists and Krishna followers wherever I go. They'd always approach me. Could be my "spaced out" look, it's just interesting. Actually once when I was in London, I was approached by a super cute Buddhist model guy who I followed to some random meditation practice meeting. Thinking that I went with unknown person to unfamiliar location out if curiosity... oh my, my Mars sq Pluto is stupidly dare devilish.

My uncle is Buddhist (Virgo) and I love talking to him so much, he is do calm and positive without overdoing or faking it, just natural.

My aspects:
Wisdom conjunct my Venus/Asc from
Chant conj Mars exact conj Pax

My uncle doesn't have any tight aspects, but he is a:
Virgo Sun/Pluto, Mars/Mercury/Asc with Scorpio Venus/Jupirer

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Ava , except perhaps for Buda and Lotis, the asteroids could be common to many religions and forms of spirituality. Impressive how they appear in your chart at this juncture. It is a lovely list and I will add to the spiritual asteroids in the sticky.

Samadhi is a state of deep meditation where one merges with the universal soul.

What do you feel about the chant "Nam Myoho Renge Kyo'? I have a cousin who follows that path and I join her in chanting it when in India. She has been chanting consistently for 25 years and the asteroid chant does nothing in her chart, but her Lotis conjunct Venus and Jupiter trines. Karma. Chanting it in a group has a very relaxing effect and helps to focus my mind on visualisations or healing.

I just found out that I have Still conjunct Spirit at 2 Libra (SGC), which sounds so nice. These aspects point to significant spiritual benefits - which are not yet visible.

My Mars/Wisdom squares Samadhi which may explain my struggles with meditation. I also have Karma conjunct Sun/Neptune.
 

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Aug 8, 2019 23:18:08 GMT midnight said:

.... I noticed one thing, I often attract Buddhists and Krishna followers wherever I go. 

Makes perfect sense to me, since you are someone who can see spirits/angels/fairies as you did with the orbs. You've got great placements.

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Ava, here's another asteroid that may be relevant:

28488 Gautam
Gautam was Buddha's first name.

[Ava]

Aug 9, 2019 10:44:58 GMT @astrokeen said:

Makes perfect sense to me, since you are someone who can see spirits/angels/fairies as you did with the orbs. You've got great placements.

I second this, midnight . And thanks for telling us about your uncle. I wonder what Richard Gere's got in his chart -- will check and report back later.

[Ava]

@astrokeen

Yes, true, most of the asteroids are all-purpose. Perhaps some of the words have a bit more significance in Buddhism...for example, from the wikipedia article in the OP:

"Traditionally, the first step in most Buddhist schools requires taking Three Refuges, also called the Three Jewels (Sanskrit: triratna, Pali: tiratana) as the foundation of one's religious practice."

So, Refugium seems a good match.

"The Noble Eightfold Path is grouped into three basic divisions, as follows: Wisdom, Moral Virtues, Meditation."

That's why I put Wisdom in the group.

Thanks very much for adding Gautam! Mine's @ 23 Scorpio, conjunct Kaali @ 22 & Samadhi @ 25.

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I think your Still-Spirit-SGC is noticeable, especially with sun-Neptune-Karma! But like you, I struggle with meditation.

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Re: Nam Myoho Renge Kyo, sounds lovely to be chanting that in India with your cousin!

A friend told me about it, insisting that it brought about positive manifestation, so if you desire something specific while chanting that, your wish is more likely to be granted. It sounds too good to be true of course (!) but then, some remarkable things have happened. I'm not sure if this is the intended use for the chant, and lately I'm just trying to stay focused on the general good.

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Aug 10, 2019 12:49:39 GMT Ava said:

Thanks very much for adding Gautam! Mine's @ 23 Scorpio, conjunct Kaali @ 22 & Samadhi @ 25.
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If I attend the meditation session next week...well it begins with ASC-moon in Aqua (conjunct my Refugium, Buda, Mercury), DSC-Mercury in Leo (conjunct my Saturn, squaring Wisdom). Tr moon @ 3 Aqua will sextile 1 Sag Truth (asteroid 249521) and 2 Aries Karma.

Sun-Venus @ 20 Leo squaring my nodes exactly. There is this transiting stellium:

9.15 Taurus Lotis
11.21 Taurus Buda
11.25 Taurus Gautam

I have a concentration of asteroids there including Demeter @ 9, Hera @ 10, Atlantis @ 11, Isis @ 12. Still trying to work the nerve up to attend.

Refugium will be transiting @ 15 Scorpio on my pr NN.

All amazing! You must surely attend.

[Ava]

Aug 10, 2019 16:12:01 GMT @astrokeen said:

All amazing! You must surely attend.

Thanks I thought of you as I worked my nerve up to go. It was lovely but the instructor is so sad and serious. Grave. Yet he is really smart and I know I have a lot to learn there. I have his name asteroid conjunct my sun.

3.32 Aqua, my natal Buda
3.58 Aqua, my progressed Mercury
4.36 Aqua, his name, progressed in my chart
5.00 Aqua, my natal Mercury (rectified birth time)

And as I said the moon was transiting there last night. But I don't want to make a big deal about it, as I'm not positive I'm going back anytime soon. It is difficult for me to sit still around extremely serious people.

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Ava , you tried, which is very good, and then found it wanting. Always best to follow your instincts, in this instance, on first-hand experience. 

I once attended a retreat with Thich Nat Hahn and spent most of the time examining the experience intellectually. A huge waste of an opportunity but safer than immersing myself in something I couldn't entirely accept. He was amazing and lovely, but his teachings were not something I could follow consistently.

[Ava]

^ WOW, you went on a retreat with Thich Nat Hahn? How amazing!

Thank you @astrokeen , I appreciate your encouragement to follow my instincts. The building is beautiful and I found the meditation session helpful. Some of the older women there are irreverent and spunky, which helps lighten the mood. I'll go again. This time I will just know more about what to expect.

Eckhart Tolle isn't Buddhist, but similar.

85179 Meistereckhart

This was transiting @ 20 Aqua, exactly opposing sun-Venus when I attended that session.

Natally I have the asteroid @ 2.20 Pisces, my pr sun @ 0 Pisces is applying to conjunction with it. I suppose it's still a long way down the rabbit hole.

[Ava]

23323 Anand

"Ānanda (5th–4th century BCE) was the primary attendant of the Buddha and one of his ten principal disciples. Among the Buddha's many disciples, Ānanda stood out for having the best memory. Most of the texts of the early Buddhist Sutta-Piṭaka (Pāli; Sanskrit: Sūtra-Piṭaka) are attributed to his recollection of the Buddha's teachings during the First Buddhist Council. For that reason, he is known as the Treasurer of the Dhamma, with Dhamma (Sanskrit: Dharma) referring to the Buddha's teaching. In Early Buddhist Texts, Ānanda was the first cousin of the Buddha."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80nanda

- Transiting @ 15 Aqua Rx
- Natally I have this @ 9 Sag, between Venus & Neptune

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Ava, I had listed Anand as a Vedic asteroid since it means bliss or happiness. It seems it could apply to Buddhism as well with a different meaning.

[12YearsABlob]

My "Boda" is at 4 Aqua, conjunct your Boda-Mercury - and you're telling me about these asteroids.

It's probably too wide for an asteroid, but that's 4° from my Saturn, exactly square Mercury.

Samadhi is on my Juno, squaring my Sun: I used to be fascinated by the saints and monks who achieved this state (of Samadhi). Well, the story is, as you must've heard, some folks would leave all their material possessions in search of...God, or transcendence or simply because they weren't enamored of them anymore. Some of these would spend not hours, but months, or even years in meditation. It was fabled that they didn't need food or water, they'd completely surrendered to that meditative state. And in that meditation, they eventually left their corporal body. Like easing into the after life as a continuation of their meditation. My grandpa once took me to this shrine that was supposed to be the place a saint like this had ascended. I wasn't allowed to see inside, since his remains were still there, and it doubled as a tomb. But I remember being fascinated, that someone could achieve this state of complete...whatever it's called.

[Ava]

Thank you for that 12YearsABlob .

"My "Boda" is at 4 Aqua, conjunct your Boda-Mercury - and you're telling me about these asteroids. "

I love it! Come meditate with me. I need to meet you, and I need you to meet that aspiring Buddhist who won't move her flamingo lawn ornament no matter what anyone says.

"And in that meditation, they eventually left their corporal body. Like easing into the after life as a continuation of their meditation."

I believe this.

Well I was briefly looking into the life of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, who probably doesn't deserve the "Rinpoche," as he was a serious alcoholic who basically suicided through alcohol (similar to Alan Watts, another unconventional Buddhist.) Yet people say that Trungpa's heart reportedly remained warm for several days after death, a sign that he was still alive in there.

I love that interpenetration of "the veil," where the living can be like dead people, and the dead can be like the living.

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[Ava]

279035 Mara

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_(demon)

[midnight]

Oh Ava, this asteroid... Not sure what I think about it.

In my Chart:
Mara square Venus/Asc exact

In our Composite:
Saturn 21
Mara 23
Venus 24
Pluto 25
sextile Neptune 24

Btw Mara/Venus/Pluto is conjunct my Husband's Libra stellium (Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto and POF)

Some heavy stuff.

My daughter has:
Mara/Asc
Lilith/Desc

[Ava]

midnight

I also have Mara square ASC/DSC axis. From what I gather, Mara is about confrontation and reckoning. So maybe it's good to have Mara aspecting the ASC: major issues and value judgments are sorted out up front.

Mara is prompting Buddha to choose enlightenment over lesser pleasures. So Venus-Mara by itself might be sorting out how love is a vehicle to higher frequencies, transcendence. Mara in your stellium looks like an energy that is seeking to pull all of that heavy energy upwards.

Just some ideas.

With your daughter, I like the Mara-ASC, it gets right to the point, presenting that question of "What satisfies? What are you going for? What's your highest aspiration: worldly or spiritual?" And Lilith-DSC seems to reserve the right to engage independently within a partnership, holding her own values.

[midnight]

I love how you explain things, Ava. Thank you so much. I was a bit confused since, from what I understand, there are 4 stages/types of Mara. I guess I need to study it.

[Ava]

Thank you midnight . That was basically a rough sketch, wondering how asteroid Mara might function. My thinking was influenced by this video:



Around 6:33 "It was the moment when the Buddha was fully able to look at Mara and realize it was part of him...that Mara lost any power over the Buddha...it was the moment when Buddha was able to OWN his Mara that he transcended it. And in transcending it, he became enlightened."

So Mara is both the antagonist to enlightenment and the means by which it is achieved. We're not born enlightened. It's a project. Without Mara, there is no project. So it's essential that way, I think.

But like so many other asteroids, including Chiron, it could probably be read in both a positive and negative light, it seems to elude those distinctions. I do think it's just interesting.

Some random notes:

- Transiting Mara was conjunct my sun when my daughter was born. I was euphoric, maybe not enlightened, but glowing.  

- Transiting Mara conjunct my moon when I had a kind of transcendental trance experience.

- Mara was transiting conjunct Pluto exactly, tightly conjunct my natal Venus, when I had a significant breakup. I felt "enlightened" then, too, for a little bit.

Totally random:

- Just noticed podcast host Joe Rogan has sun conjunct Mara in Leo. Well he seems to want to get beyond the illusions, it's his purpose and struggle. 

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