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Post by Ava on Jun 21, 2019 17:11:42 GMT
So he wll write. tonight. I just made my mind up about it, it feels like he just made the decision to do so. It really cracked me up that you even made this prediction. Have you ever done that before? I can't remember. He was only about 13 hours late? Taurus moon, you know. Taking his good old time. Anyway, I swear it's true that I usually feel an energy shift where it's like a portal opens and the usual heaviness abates for a little while, and that is the characteristic "time signature" I associate with him. So I was listening to music and it started feeling oddly co-participatory, so I checked my email and yep, he just wrote. See, why would I just be doing laundry when I can be all Pisces Moon Magical right here on the internet? lol...no really...back to laundry...you get my picture, I am always behind because I'd always rather be doing something else. Catch up more here later. Happy Summer Solstice to whoever is reading this on the solstice, and even if you aren't reading it, same wishes apply.
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Post by lumina on Jun 21, 2019 21:49:55 GMT
Ava how cool is that!!! I think the only other half-predicition I made was when I mentioned many years ago, that I had a feeling you wer enot done yet and he would come back into your life. Or did I only think that? But about yesterday, I suddenly got that feeling. actually, like a slow moving energy, that suddenly stops, and then restarts but with oddly more determination. Hard to explain. Like he was thinking about it now and then, but always postponing, and then suddenly like stopping and saying: Oh crap, I`ll just do it now. Sorry he was late though. And happy solstice to you and whoever read this, too. I actually was at the theatre with my parents and brother, and we were watching a ballet called "Living in America". lol Basically three scenes, one set in the days of the settlers in America and the civil war, the second in the 30s-50s of the last century, and then the last one more symbolically in the Now. It was interesting, and I am not really that fond of ballets usually, but that choreographer is really good (he is american btw). And yes I know what you mean about the signatures, I have that, too. though today it was more attuned to the Italian person of interest. lol I like how consistent HE is. I ask, he answers, I add a nice comment to the answer, he likes it. Sounds maybe boring, but I like the consistency. though I am not sure why instagram insisted of notfying me twice about him liking my comment. lol And did so about 1 hour of each other so it does not make any sense. But well I guess it is just Neptune.
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Post by Ava on Jun 21, 2019 23:02:01 GMT
Hey lumina , Yes -- I'm used to you sensing things, but no matter what happens with me, it's hard to speak of it. Though I'm endlessly fascinated with the energy "terrain." The way things change and rise and fall. I think you actually did predict for 2018 that I might hear from him, which I thought was totally far-fetched, but the exact sun-Venus conjunction in my SR and I think some other markers were pointing to a significant change. So I remember quoting you and saying, "Wow, you called it." The ballet sounds interesting, though America....well, my nationalist days were over by the time I was about 18, I can't remember what even started that, except that I was paying attention to the environment and America's reputation as Public Enemy # 1 against the planet. It would be hard for me to watch something about America, I think. "But well I guess it is just Neptune." But of course you and A would have stuff to connect about with tr moon on your luminaries? Still not finished...
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Post by lumina on Jun 22, 2019 11:52:48 GMT
Hi Ava well that "sensing" is just an observation of my shift in perception/ experiencing. MIght be just in my own head of course. And yes, that Solar Return was just so remarkable, and I just thought of him instantly. Another of these sensing moments, almost like hearing a bell ringing. lol Well actually esp. the modern part was rather critical, and I do not think it was a coincidence that, the last word sung and danced (before the encore) in the ballet was "Revolution" LOL actually you called it about A and me. Tr Moon was on 19 Aquarius (exact on my Atropos. lol), but also just 2 degrees after my Moon and before his Sun. It was not really that much of a conversation, just a simply question and answer thing.
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Post by Ava on Jun 23, 2019 13:42:25 GMT
Finally answering here lumina "And just wondering, could it be that midpoints are not 'equal,' but that the closer the planets are together in the natals, the stronger and more clearly pronounced the near midpoint becomes? and if the planets are closer to the oppositions, it is more approaching a 50:50 distribution in strength? That is HIGHLY theoretical and probably overdoing the thing of course. lol" I like the idea. Well especially with the outer planets and Jupiter, being in the same sign means something, I think. I really never would have guessed that the Pluto signs could be palpable and discernible, until I got more and more into astrology, consciously engaged with people from the Leo through Cap Pluto generations, and realized how noticeable it is. So it's sort of a synastry issue, sometimes. Whole sign synastry. "However if the planets are very close to opposition, like with the Jupiter for P and me, they add after the planet in the box underneath the chart "plus opposite house", and therefore refer to the axis I guess." Oh right! I forgot about that. "LOl well yes, I love that aspect, though not sure how it really should be interpreted, Jupiter is not so much sexual I guess. lol but it certainly is a nice one, and it is part of a stellium my Pholus 6 Pisces his Eros 8 Pisces" ...The butterfly effect of all his telepathic, dreamlike sexiness. "my Ceres 9 Pisces his "my name" 9 Pisces my Jupiter 11 Pisces opposing his Amor 9 Virgo his Jupiter and his name 10 Virgo his Mars 11 Virgo" The stuff movies are made of. Rated R movies. Tasteful and artsy though - Virgo/Pisces axis never forgets its standards. "I mean if eclipses, if aspecting our natal chart, have strong effects over a longer time period, then the EVC should be equally telling and strong! Though there still would need to be some "pointer" for when the potential manifests int he outer world." I guess so. I was casually researching this last night but need to do more research. So far I'm not too crazily impressed. My daughter was born just after an eclipse...her prenatal eclipse is the same as mine...so my composite with her is sort of an eclipse EVC. I'm too lazy to pull up that eclipse chart at the moment, but our composite has features that would be in the eclipse EVC as well. Our composite has... 16 Gem Jupiter (exact on my Mars) 19 Leo Mars (conjunct her 17 Leo Jupiter, square my 20 Scorpio NN) 14 Scorpio Pluto, 18 Scorpio Venus -> both conjunct my mean NN, which I do put some stock in, esp since my pr NN was there so long Lots of Mars/Pluto activation there, and she "activates" the Scorpio area of my life by being a Scorpio sun and teaching me about The Scorpio Way. Her sun is only very widely conjunct my NN (I use 8° orb for luminaries) but I still take notes on how she approaches the world, what her preferences are. Her Mars is conjunct my draconic Mars, too. Her sun squares comp NN which is conjunct my husband's Mars. So much Mars. Well my father had a tight sun-Mars conjunction, my mother had a tight or exact sun-Mars quincunx which I inherited. Though my daughter does not have sun-Mars in aspect, she is Aries rising, and with traditional rulerships, Mars rules both her chart and her sun... I'm off topic. Anyway, that was a "Mars" eclipse for me insofar as Mars was transiting conjunct my draconic Mars. I shouldn't be writing in the morning with all this coffee in my system. I talk too much. "Well about 24 hours after P and me had coffee there was this total solar eclipse, and in my EVC with it Venus had moved to 20 Scorpio, the same degree as his EVC Mars, 20 SCorpio. When we met the day before, it was still applying, with my Venus on 19 Scorpio (albeit also EVC ASC on 19 Scorpio)." Wow...so there you go. "EVC Venus on 22 Aries EVC Chiron on 22 Aries what can I say? We seem to always have some Chiron factor inbuilt (we also met with Tr Chiron conjunct Tr NN exact. lol)" Well it HAS been about healing. I think you heal some of his loneliness by understanding him. "I guess we put the Mercury-Pluto-opposition to good use." I feel like it's still ongoing, with Mercury struggling to complete it's long swim across Cancer, and now almost finally getting to Leo.
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Post by lumina on Jun 23, 2019 20:02:27 GMT
Ava "...The butterfly effect of all his telepathic, dreamlike sexiness. " Sounds amazing, but what does it really mean. Besides he once said he has a phobia of butterflies. Just found that almost odd. He said that it is probably because of the way they are fluttering their wings and he can never be sure where they fly and if they might "attack" him and flying right into his face. LOL I shouldn`t laugh about that, but somehow I found that so cute. A man like a bear, trying to escape the armada of butterflies coming at him! LOL It`s so funny, too, cause when I was a teenager, my ex-best friend, would be calling me by a nickname that is the italian variation of "butterfly". lol Maybe he is afraid of me. I on the other hand find wasps and even bees much more frightening, and it takes a lot of selfcontrol to not jump up and run away in a panic. But hey, they do have stings! Butterflies do not sting, they are just beautiful creatures of colour! And they literally mean "soul". I mean the same word in ancient greek for soul and butterfly. Psy-che. Sounds familiar? lol So basically he is afraid of (hhis) soul? Metaphorically speaking. Not quite sure what wasp stands for, and what I am afraid of. lol I don`t think I would call my fear a phobia though, I can think of wasps without panicking, as long as their physical manifestation stays far away from me. "The stuff movies are made of. Rated R movies. Tasteful and artsy though - Virgo/Pisces axis never forgets its standards. " Haha. Well at least his Amor is involved, too. "So far I'm not too crazily impressed. " Yes, while there might be something to it, after all we do Solar Returns as well, I am inclined to pay more attention to the actual transits at a specific moment, and the EVC of course. "My daughter was born just after an eclipse...her prenatal eclipse is the same as mine...so my composite with her is sort of an eclipse EVC. I'm too lazy to pull up that eclipse chart at the moment, but our composite has features that would be in the eclipse EVC as well." Wow! That alone is HUGE. "I think you heal some of his loneliness by understanding him. " Is he lonely? I mean he has got so many people to turn to. And yet I think you are right, there is that sense of alone-ness. Maybe he is not lonely per se, but alone somehow. Don`t know, how to put it. Actually I think possibly his best friend is one of the very few people he has been letting close in. As for me, I think maybe yes, there is a sense that we get each other, albeit we never spoke about it. And in some ways we seem to mirror each other, which is not always as great as it might sound like. It reminds me of the story of the Man of La Mancha, when the family wanted to heal Don Quixote from his illusions about being a knight and "bringing him back to reality", and his son in law masks as "knight of mirrors" and forces Don Quixote to see himself like he is, a foolish old man, not a noble knight. But instead of bringing him back to his family, to his senses, and out of his dream-world of idealism, it makes him break down and he dies, of course of his age, but really I think because he couldn´t bear this, to see himself like he is, or maybe it was rather how others saw him, as a mirror can only reflect back the outside of a person, at least a phsical mirror. lol So maybe it is different, but however it is, it is not always pleasant to recognize some personality traits in the other. I do not know if he sees me that way, but sometimes when he acts or is a certain way or just in the way his facial expression is, for me it definitely is like looking into a mirror, and because his external epxression reflects mine sometimes very scarily, I might project or conclude, maybe rightfully, maybe falsely, that the inside is similiar. So at times I just seem to see some underlying more difficult emotions. And sometimes it seemed to me that he couldn`t quite look at me. Just sometimes it feels like he might see me as someone "who sees too much". It is of course nothing outspoken or tangible and maybe it is not even true. But sometimes I feel the mirroring going on so exactly, that it feels like neither of us really has a hiding place, even though both of us pretend we do have that. And I guess that is when the pendulum swings from the fascination of being close to each other and a sort of happiness to the urge to hide in some shell. Sorry I disgress, but well, they always make it sound like the mirror thing is something soo great, but in reality it is not that easy to deal with, especially if there are things you do not quite like about yourself. Cause a mirror reflects back all there is, not just the flattering parts. Too many red buttons to push. lol "it's still ongoing, with Mercury struggling to complete it's long swim across Cancer, and now almost finally getting to Leo." Yes you are right. before leaving it also transits over P`s DRaco stellium in Cancer and his tropical Juno. Once in Leo, it will conjunct our composite DSC on 1 Leo. I think I might like Leo-Merucry more. lol I mean with a double fire Mercury! (tropical and Draco).
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Post by Ava on Jun 24, 2019 14:40:54 GMT
edit - k, you saw
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Post by Ava on Jun 24, 2019 15:13:10 GMT
I think I made that post maybe too much like it ought to be a private conversation so please let me know after you've read it lumina, as I will shorten it. I'm going to try and get less personal on the forums as I'm self-conscious of overtaking them with my biography (Chiron aspecting Mercury, again.)
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Post by lumina on Jun 24, 2019 16:59:40 GMT
Ava very interesting and insightful read. but you are right, maybe we should take that to email, it gets quite private here. Funnny I never knew an asteroid Cervantes exists. IN my chart it is on 00 Virgo in one degree conjunction with P`s NN. lol I knew about Don Quixote on 23 Capricorn in my chart, and Dulcinea on 4 Scoprio I believe though. Funny enough I just saw that our composite Dulcinea is on 7 Sag, exact conjunct my natal ASC. Composite DULCINEA is also conjunct ERATO, the muse of "lyric and love poetry" or like she is described here. "rato was the Muse who represented and was the patron of Lyric and Love Poetry Also the muse of marriage songs She was the daughter of Zeus and Mnemosyne She was described as beautiful, passionate and erotic Her symbol was a Cithara , a type of lyre She was also depicted with turtle doves and golden arrows representing love Occasionally she was accompanied by the god Eros, who was pictured holding a torch." www.talesbeyondbelief.com/nymphs/erato-muse.htmwell My Erato is on 15 Sag, exact on our composite Neptune (and 2 degrees of composite Mercury and Sappho, also known for rather, erm, erotic and passionate poetry); his Erato is on 27 Scorpio conjunct Cervantes on 25 Scorpio, near my Valentine. Oh forgot composite BML is also near my ASC, on 8 Sag I believe, so we actually have Dulcinea, Lilith and Erato right there gathered around my natal ASC, and conjunct his natal Mercury-MUSA on 9 Sag. Yeah better be careful whom you put on a pedestal. Dulcinea might be put up there, but Lilith might come down. LOL Or something. just thought that was funny. Also funny as I just see, My Musa-Sappho- conjunction on 21-22 Libra is conjunct his Pluto on 21 Libra; and his Musa-Mercury conjunction on 9 Sag is conjunct my Neptune. Of course his Musa-Mercury is als conjunct my NN, and my Musa-Sappho falls onto our composite NN. in the composite Musa is on the MC (15-16 Scorpio), Don Quixote on 9 Scorpio conjunct Uranus and his name there by 2-3 degrees. Cervantes is conjunct Pluto, and opposing my name. Dulcinea, well as I said, on my natal ASC. Seems he is more prone to fighting windmills as a matter of fact. Well in my natal Chart Don Quixote is conjunct asteroid Arthur/Artus and Gawain which are both on 21 Cap exact on my Sun/Moon-mp. I suppose I must have a much too naive and idealistic perception of men. lol They have to be heroes, or at least knights. Actually I just put up an instagram post about William Wallace, book and musical, and adding the hasthag, hero of course, and freedom. what else? lol Is there a braveheart asteroid? I swear if there is one he probably falls onto the Don Quixote/Artus/Gawain thing there in Capricorn in my chart, which seems weird, in Capricorn. don`t think there is a braveheart asteroid though, and I disgress, much. lol
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Post by Ava on Jun 25, 2019 2:44:33 GMT
Hi lumina"Is there a braveheart asteroid? I swear if there is one he probably falls onto the Don Quixote/Artus/Gawain thing there in Capricorn in my chart, which seems weird, in Capricorn." LOL -- wait, what are you getting at, about Capricorn? 21903 Wallace Some of the asteroids we are talking about (mystery grab bag set if anyone reading is curious): 62, 2597, 2054, 571, 3552, 79144 As always, asteroids can be found here: ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgiI get worried wondering how people even find the asteroids conveniently. I have some interesting synastry with those and since today was the exact Venus square Neptune transit, what better time to discuss this, really? lol But I won't because I am burned out for today and almost ready to sleep...plus we might as well just create a Don Quixote asteroid thread? Maybe transfer this over there?
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Post by lumina on Jun 26, 2019 18:47:09 GMT
Ava i probably annoy you by now, but I have another almost random EVC. of just a few moments ago. Background story is that I had been putting up a picture of the stage/ audience room before the poetryslam yesterday, and in this post I also tagged P and Lancelot and thanked both of them, as I had learned quite a bit from each of them in the respective workshops I visited and was incorporating a few things into my teachings, and basically just thanked them for the inspiration and "perspective" it gave me. I was actually just making an Event chart for when I was posting this, when P`s picture popped up in the corner of my screen, as he liked my post exactly that moment. LOL So I rather checked THIS EVC when he acknowledged that post. well I wasn`t quite happy with my post to be honest, I thought it sounded very sober, matter-of-factly, downright businesslike, but then again also, I felt very sincere when posting this. Not to flatter either of them, but because it really gave me a lot that I can make use of in my work as a teacher, with a slightly shifted perspective. But well I´ve been receiving a lot of appreciation of my pupils in the last 2 days, including yesterday on the poetry slam, that I just felt like giving some of it back to where it belonged, and of course basically force attention to me having done a creative project. LOL Let`s stay honest here, this was part of it for sure. And well, P is not stupid, he probably will also have realized that this was a bit of saying: Hey, look, I do stuff, too! Maybe it was silly or even a bit pathetic, but event hough this was part of it, the larger part was a real sincere feeling of thankfulness that I wanted to transfer to both of them, and well, I had not really expected either of them to like that post actually. But of course I feel "heard" and "seen" with that. Anyway a long story, but this was my EVC with that moment. this is his As for Lancelot`s EVC today, he has his EVC Jupiter right on my EVC MC (not sure what else cause I did not quite look, but that just called for attention). That is downright funny, actually, because my natal Pluto is on 9 Libra, too. And my pr Moon is at 9 Libra, too (and today my daily progressed MC has JUST entered 28 Taurus. very closely to his EVC Stellium! he might feel con med intellectually by me I suppose, and as a teacher, his EVC Jupiter on my EVC MC; now P`s EVC Venus on my EVC IC, and also right on his own Draco Mars-Jupiter, might come with a bit of a different overtone. lol) Anyway my pr Moon was or is on 9 Libra, I Mean on the degree from: 18th june - 13th july, so it seems at least to a part that poetry-slam - thing must have been somehow connected to the Moon-Pluto-conjunction. Of course there might other things come into play, too. I mean there will be conferences next week, and looking at that Moon-Pluto, maybe I need to brace against some of the not so nice manifestations of that aspect. I do not want to jinx it of course, and this last week, intense and emotionally demanding as it was, well it was also a great experience of course, a scary one in preparation, but I experienced it as very valuable and in a weird way fulfilling. Actually there was this moment when I climbed up onto stage behind the curtain to see what my moderators and technicians were doing there (and making sure the equipment stayed okay. lol), the moderator said something jokingly about how I should be on the other side, of the curtain, I wasn`t supposed to be there (clearly not wanting to be supervised. it was all very joking though) and I looked around on that stage and then just blurted out: "Yes, that is exactly where I am supposed to be. This is where I belong." It was just a joke of course, but what a weird thing to say. Somehow even jokes seem more serious with Moon-Pluto in progressed conjunction. lol Anyway this progression falls into my 10th house (4 degrees off my MC), so I guess it is somewhat visible at the time. I just hope that it will not turn up with the downside in the next weeks. lol BTW funny enough P`s daily progressed ASC has entered Scorpio today, applying to my natal Uranus within 1 degree. lol and my pr Sun and his pr Mercury on his daily progressed IC, all three of them on 11 Aquarius BTW the sabian for 11-12 Aqua is On A Vast Staircase Stand People Of Different Types, Graduated Upward Well this was also not so much about anything personal or fan-based from my site, but felt more like being about my job, well the part of my job that I should be building up. Apparently it is something I should be doing, or at least whenever I approached it (making school more theatrical. lol) and especially with the involvement of the public, it seems that things are going very right, though I have actually no clue what I am doing. lol
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Post by lumina on Jun 26, 2019 18:49:01 GMT
and yeah my EVC Moon on your natal Moon. And actually almost conjunct my own pr Jupiter on 19 Pisces
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Post by anela on Jun 26, 2019 18:58:36 GMT
I think I made that post maybe too much like it ought to be a private conversation so please let me know after you've read it lumina , as I will shorten it. I'm going to try and get less personal on the forums as I'm self-conscious of overtaking them with my biography (Chiron aspecting Mercury, again.) I don't feel that way about you, but I feel that way about myself a lot. I also have Chiron-Mercury, conjunct.
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Post by Ava on Jun 26, 2019 23:18:03 GMT
I don't feel that way about you, but I feel that way about myself a lot. I also have Chiron-Mercury, conjunct. This feeling sucks I hope you don't feel like this all the time. I like your comments, so talk all you want around me. <3
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Post by Ava on Jun 26, 2019 23:46:24 GMT
Hi lumina, Very cool idea to tag them for that, I don't think it's pathetic but a real situation - they DID help, their influence was rippling outward, and I think people generally like to be made aware of such things. It's startling to see that you and P have the same EVC sun, I thought your suns were separated by more than a degree. 'Love the Mystic Rectangle (or envelope? what's that configuration?) in your EVC and all the planets clustered near the critical degrees. It's just great that P replied so fast, EVC ASC-Ceres-Neptune in Aqua trine EVC Mercury exact, that's fitting. Carpe Diem in a caring way. "Anyway my pr Moon was or is on 9 Libra" On EVC MC, kind of explains the impulse. "Somehow even jokes seem more serious with Moon-Pluto in progressed conjunction. lol" Yeah, I remember going through that, I think it was this past fall when I was trying to use alcohol to ease my burdens (unsuccessfully - just gave myself digestive trouble). I am just so happy for you that it all turned out well. Not surprised at all.
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