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Post by Ava on May 19, 2019 0:05:58 GMT
Also when I heard that, I couldn`t wrap my head around it, how this could cause such a stir, but decided I didn`t need to put too much effort in understanding it. I think Tati never intended for it to become much of anything, so I feel bad for her that she will probably take the blame for the hugely strange chain-reaction that occurred. She took a lot of heat for her vitamins. Yet another ridiculously overblown YouTube drama. I saw so many comments in her comments' section trashing her for acting like vitamins are helpful, trashing her for not being a doctor...um, the ingredients themselves were targeted as essentially life-threatening...the vitamins were too expensive by far. She was accused of deleting negative comments even though maybe half the comments were negative still. So, she says she was instrumental in helping James Charles establish his career. He had something like 3x as many followers as her. But he wouldn't come to her defense through her vitamin debacle, nor promote her vitamin start-up business, nor help her in any way, that's how I read between her lines. So for him to promote other vitamins felt to her like a betrayal. I think if she'd had more presence of mind she would have just ignored the whole thing. But I look at the charts and think it was simply their time to tango.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 2:56:57 GMT
James said himself that Tati was like a mother to him and she helped him initially with establishing himself. Tati’s channel has gone wayyyy back. James is relatively new. But he also has a lot more interesting stuff. He’s gender bending and creative. She just did basic tutorial and reviews. The biggest competitor for Tati was the Kardashian’s pills so for him to promote them seems rude. But I also don’t know what went on in their relationship and her response seems like it has been building up for a while
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Post by rietje1 on May 19, 2019 19:57:01 GMT
I've been following this because I used to watch them both a lot, especially Tati. I'm glad that more videos are coming out to answer some questions.
On Reddit, I remember when Tati's first video came up, it was spammed with people calling James narcessistic and entitled. While... so reading everything between that waiter and him, it strikes me way more as lonely, fear of abandonment and having no sense of boundaries. Or maybe a new video has come out that show that he was lying idk.
When I first checked his chart, this was when with the info we had shortly after Tati's video, it seemed like he was showing signs of a predator, manipulator, using fame etc. So I was surprised at things like Venus in Cancer... but it makes complete sense now. (And as I have some of that influence in my chart, I guess I sensed it right away.)
The whole situation is just so complex and it just keeps going on and on...
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