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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 9, 2018 20:27:43 GMT
So I myself didnt do what I was supposed to do until saturn came down on me. So I am not asking others to automatically do it, but astrology is about awareness of your own energy and that of the universe. If it hits you badly the last few times, what should you do differently? Hmm..... Someone whose Saturn was on my NN really brought home a hard lesson for me.
I dunno if I was fully able to fix the behaviour that caused it, but at least I'm more aware of it now, as you say.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 20:33:12 GMT
anelaI was only responding regarding your original comment about Jupiter ... Saturn has been an important force in my life. So was jupiter. I have 9th house stellium. Jupiter is not really about luck. It's about having the faith and keep going. In keeping that faith, one has to learn about commitment and self-doubt. Tell any sag you think they are the lucky sign and they'll roll their eyes. Jupiter can be sloppy and over-indulgent. Jupiter can be reckless, careless, and lacking in empathy. The generosity of Jupiter is something that has to be worked through over time. It's philosophical not because of Marx and Kierkegard and Aristotle, it is philosophical because even being dragged through hell (scorpio), jupiter believes there has got to be a chance, a light at the end of the tunnel for me. Jupiter is how I see the Shawshank Redemption. In mythology, Jupiter was put away and replaced by a rock because Kronos/Saturn ate all of his children. Ok, lucky you, child. But the most important part is Jupiter came back and freed his siblings. Jupiter is about not forgetting what you were given at birth, whatever ounce of privileges and luck you got; Jupiter was given a chance, and he has to do something with that chance and be bigger than himself. Jupiter could have walked away and lived somewhere else. Again, as I said Im not here to tell one to make their own luck or exemplify the best qualities of a sign or aspect. We all have to take it one day at a time. Life is never fair and in the worst of time, the in the times of turmoil, you have to think about how the Holocaust survivors pull through, how war refugees pull through. It's not luck, it's faith and hope and other seemingly corny things. This is a side note too. Saturn is not about "sh!tting" on people either. I have a heavily saturnian chart. I had some harsh saturnian transits as well. I wouldnt say I had the best time of my life with Saturn but increasingly so, I have learned to appreciate what Saturn is meant to tell me, which is to stop expecting myself to meet others' standards or approval. It's faith and hope in a different tone; it's the belief that even when life is not fair, if you show up and do your due diligence and set yourself up for the things worth doing, then you'll be pretty ok. It's the belief in one's own worth in the test of time. Such worth does not have to have this social aspect of being admired, or having glory and trophies either. Saturn just means to teach one to have a standard for oneself, to be truthful and faithful with one's own values and let the godly forces take play.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 9, 2018 20:35:20 GMT
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 9, 2018 20:40:37 GMT
This is a side note too. Saturn is not about "sh!tting" on people either. I have a heavily saturnian chart. I had some harsh saturnian transits as well. I wouldnt say I had the best time of my life with Saturn but increasingly so, I have learned to appreciate what Saturn is meant to tell me, which is to stop expecting myself to meet others' standards or approval. It's faith and hope in a different tone; it's the belief that even when life is not fair, if you show up and do your due diligence and set yourself up for the things worth doing, then you'll be pretty ok. Yes!! When Saturn rewards you, it's concrete and long-lasting. But of course, you have to 'level-up' and deal with the additional responsibilities it brings.
What you wrote above is SO on point. My last significant Saturn transit was a mixed bag, but most importantly, it taught me the value of having reasonable expectations of myself. Changing my perspective about that helped make things better in very real ways..
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Post by Ava on Nov 9, 2018 21:47:51 GMT
Ava Fate might be dealing us our cards, but it is up to us to pick them up and play them (right). I agree with that, but my original "not sure about that" was directed to this idea: "jupiter is where if you dont push your luck, you will never be lucky." Sometimes life just sucks. It's not about luck. Sometimes there really is absolutely nothing to do except grieve, and Jupiter can put those kinds of events in motion. *edited Now I'm confused. I guess grieving can be playing cards right, it's just not typically regarded as such, nor respected, except in a sanitized environment like a therapist's office.
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Post by Ava on Nov 9, 2018 21:57:05 GMT
But what'd really make me happy is probably the ability to get over it and not care as much.
Same. Then again, think of how awesome caring people are. I'd rather be around people who care too much and hurt too much than people who are apathetic. Mmm, they call it "labor of love" for a reason?
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Post by Ava on Nov 9, 2018 22:08:28 GMT
Sorry to hear you've never really enjoyed Jupiter in Sag, Ava . I hope this time around is better for you! It is already in a sextile to my Ascendant. I do feel more faithful about how the Universe is operating than before, more capable of manifesting what I need to manifest and all of that (which is also a part of my Saturn Return). Thank you, hope it's a great transit for you, too. Despite some of my more pessimistic comments here I am also feeling a nice boost already, honestly. Could just be a placebo effect and my mind playing tricks on me...but hey...whatever works.
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Post by anela on Nov 10, 2018 20:06:03 GMT
I wanted to get to sleep early last night, since I was so tired, and try to drag my dad to the pound early, to meet that dog, Sally. Instead, after taking something to help me sleep, I ended up barely sleeping, and then dragging myself up, only to find that my dad had a 9am appointment for something to do with the van. I ended up dropping off to sleep for a little while, but still choppy like before. Was about to drag myself into the shower, and get ready - and then I found out that she was adopted. Dad asked me why I was crying really hard. HE KNEW WHY. He could have got her yesterday morning, or this morning, and he didn't. People in the facebook group were telling me to get another one. They aren't interchangeable!!! I made the mistake of getting attached to the idea of bringing her home. She was there all week, so I thought maybe it would happen. No. The dog we currently have, dad dragged me out of bed at 5am to get ready, and to go and get him, just before my birthday in 2016, because HE liked him. He'd met him, thought I would like him too, but he reminded him of his heart dog that we lost in 2009. That's why he's here. I thought he was coming around to the idea on Thursday, of adopting her. I kept talking about her. I've been depressed all week, and now I feel even worse. I'm glad she's safe, but damn it. She reminded me of Ell.
Then when I got into the shower, there was hardly any hot water - I found out as I was trying to wash shampoo out of my hair. So I had to get out and wait for it to heat up again, and then there was just enough for me to condition and get that out of there. I'm pissed. All-around pissed off. I can't get to the shelter to meet any of the others now, because they close soon, not that I feel like it now.
Oh, and I found out last weekend, that the place that sold some of the English things that I love, is closed for good. The place that sold English cheese, and cheese from around the world. Other things that I loved to get around the holidays. They'd been in that area for 82 years, and reopened two years ago, after being closed for about a year.
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Post by anela on Nov 10, 2018 20:13:44 GMT
Ava Fate might be dealing us our cards, but it is up to us to pick them up and play them (right). I agree with that, but my original "not sure about that" was directed to this idea: "jupiter is where if you dont push your luck, you will never be lucky." Sometimes life just sucks. It's not about luck. Sometimes there really is absolutely nothing to do except grieve, and Jupiter can put those kinds of events in motion. *edited Now I'm confused. I guess grieving can be playing cards right, it's just not typically regarded as such, nor respected, except in a sanitized environment like a therapist's office. Yep. Sometimes life just does suck.. continuously. You reminded me of something that I read last night. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lauraturner/rachel-hollis-girl-wash-your-face-self-help-book - I picked that book up, glanced through it, and put it right back down. Saturn on my Neptune, and on my mother's Sun, took my mother's LIFE. Saturn does sh*t on people. I see people succeeding from manipulation, bullying,etc, and because they get their own way, they're fine. Saturn doesn't reward good behaviour. It actually reminds me of Trump, who on his show, rewarded one group of people who stole something the others had reserved for their work, and were on their way to get. He knew they stole it, but he saw that as a good thing, because they got the job done. I wasn't impressed with him before, but when I saw that, I stopped watching the show.
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Post by Ava on Nov 10, 2018 22:08:27 GMT
Ah, that's sad that you didn't get your dog anela . And I'm sorry, I didn't know or I forgot that tr Saturn was on your Neptune and your mother's sun when she died. ❤️ edit
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 11, 2018 3:11:22 GMT
Ugh. I had a feeling what her "views" would be like. But reading the actual words made me physically uneasy. Good thing you put it down. The last thing we need is more toxic thoughts from the very books we read to escape the toxicity that surrounds us.
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