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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 23:06:59 GMT
Hi all I’m making this thread specifically for sharing information regarding Pluto transits to planets since I’ll soon have Pluto transit to mars, and the next 10 years to Mc, Saturn, mercy and sun ...
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Since end of 2014-ish I have experienced Pluto transit venus and right now is the 3rd time it grates through my venus. Venus is my chart ruler, Pluto is my 7th ruler and there have been a few things happened.
I have been dealing with a stalker and throughout these years and I’ve learned to not cower in fears, hide in secrets. Due to my Taurus rising, it took me a long time to stand up for myself. Finally i realized it’d be so ridiculous to be so worried of my own privacy I prevent any sort of human connection. It’s akin to being so afraid of an accident that you never drive.
I went through some major revamp of my values, including my beliefs in other institutions and my own self work and how I can change other institutions (venus in cap). I definitely change how I see my relationships with other ppl, with the world at large and with myself. Before I had the typical venus-Neptune forgiving attitude but I guess since pluto affects my Neptune too (which rules my 11th), my ideals completely changed and I had taken a new, much more Neptunian direction towards my career (ruled if venus Neptune exact conjunction in 10th).
Because it’s a Capricorn venus so I finally took the steps towards the trail of broken things I left behind and stated coming back and cleaning up my mess. Venus in 9th can be irresponsible- ...eh?
Thee btw are clearly not the typical description of venus-Pluto conjunction transit. My relationship with myself got intense, I didn’t experience any intense relationships per se. I clearly didn’t have a relationship with the stalker and his friends 😂 but my relationship with myself changed so I stood up for myself and nuked all the coward bullies. I developed a systematic way of eliminating toxic individuals and maintained boundaries (Neptune). I’ve met those who didn’t match my intensity and decided to not go forward just to accept some resemblance of a relationship because my relationship with myself is healthier.
I also changed my physique too. And after the plutonic storm, I’m finally able to look back to see the relationships/connections left are the real ones.
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Post by Ava on Nov 1, 2018 2:13:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 4:06:34 GMT
Ava I totally agree I definitely don’t think in black and white as much any more. That’s the main thing that changed my viewpoint about my career too, I want to move within different strands of things and not asking for this major revolt. My natal Pluto square sun so when I changed my relationship with the world I changed how I see myself. Funny thing I just looked back at my self 6 years ago and omg I’ve changed into a completely different person. I appreciate nuances more and yet when it comes to things that require determination and bolder actions I’m also definitely more certain of myself I guess Pluto is breaking things down and rebuilding things up.... so there’s a very nurturing aspect to it all
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 1, 2018 10:43:30 GMT
Well, I had the Pluto square Venus/Jupiter transit once upon a time. But all those years are equally turbulent, so I don't know that I can put a finger on what exactly it brought. But I have some upcoming transits. In a couple years, during my Saturn Return, the Mars/Saturn/Pluto conjunction will square my personal planets. Later, Pluto in Aqua will square some things too. Will let you know how that goes.
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Post by Ava on Nov 1, 2018 12:47:00 GMT
12YearsABlob - So sorry, that sounds very hard, both your Pluto past and future...hopefully it just galvanizes you into great strength...Cap NN is ready to absorb all that Cap energy (?) edit
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Post by Ava on Nov 1, 2018 13:00:08 GMT
Sorry for hogging up the thread but has everyone seen this?
Such a Cap (climbing) Pluto (to death) feat.
Honnold has:
2 Scorpio Pluto, sextile 1 Cap Neptune 12 Scorpio SN 21 Scorpio Saturn
So his nodal axis is on the Saturn-Pluto midpoint
He made that ascent with tr NN @ 27 Leo, conjunct his 24 Leo sun; tr Saturn @ 25 Sag trine his sun
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 1, 2018 13:22:48 GMT
12YearsABlob - So sorry, that sounds very hard, both your Pluto past and future...hopefully it just galvanizes you into great strength...Cap NN is ready to absorb all that Cap energy (?) Thanks, Ava . It's alright - that's Life, eh? I mean, sure, the experience can be awful but I'd rather have an authentic, if troubled, experience than live in a bubble. Oh, and that's a good point, the Cap/Saturn influence in my chart might be comfortable with that energy. It might know the 'rules of the game' so to speak(?) With tr Pluto conjunct my Venus, I lost my soulmate. We're back in touch and to quote him directly, "Words on a page cannot carry this weight." 💓 That's beautiful. It's the kind of sentiment you'd want to remember when things seem bleak. And I'm really glad he's back in your life! My Pluto/8th house stuff thinks of it as an inevitability (as I must have said to you at some point), because Pluto has this gut feeling that what we think of as "final" is not truly "final". It's just a necessary rest-stop for the next part of your journey.
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Post by 12YearsABlob on Nov 1, 2018 13:46:01 GMT
@theunknown, I like your story.
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Post by lumina on Nov 1, 2018 14:05:01 GMT
Pluto and me have been through everything basically.
Starting with Tr Pluto
square my Moon conjunct my Mars conjunct my ASC conjunct my NN conjunct my Mercury conjunct my Sun conjunct my Venus square my MC
and last one was opposite my Saturn
and of course also conjunct my pr ASC and having been conjunct my pr Mars as well
But well of course the last I really remember are the opposition to Saturn, connjunction to Venus and (square to Pluto itself and MC) and the conjunction to Sun-Mercury happened pretty much exactly the time P first crossed my path, and actually when I came to LL as well, in 2006, though him and me had our first meeting 2 years later just when he came out of a transit Pluto conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC and squaring his Saturn-DESC. When we met Pluto was on 00 Cap (moving away from his Moon-MC on 28 Sag) and it was conjunct Tr Moon on 1 Cap, actually it was a partile conjunction, the moment we met. (conjunct my natal Vesta on 01 Cap on my Sun/Venus-mp on 1 Cap and MErcury/Venus on 0-1 Cap, and his Mercury/Venus on 2 Cap).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 14:33:27 GMT
Ava oh yes. Funny about the granite part, I started digging up my memories since 10 years ago, all those times I pushed through, put my emotions in a box just to survive. Now they all came out like the pandora’s Box was left open... it’s cathartic I can’t watch the videos right now but I’ll watch them later And I agree... cappy are about ideas, that’s why we can get so fixated on a goal to the point of delusion. Also the US is cancer and a lot of our older ideas were based on the ideas of tribes, and what’s familiar.
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Post by lumina on Nov 1, 2018 15:01:35 GMT
Ava oh yes. Funny about the granite part, I started digging up my memories since 10 years ago, all those times I pushed through, put my emotions in a box just to survive. Now they all came out like the pandiea’s Box was left open... it’s cathartic Same experience I`ve had. mostly during the transit to my Sun, then once more to my Venus. And also I noticed when losing weight, that at some points my weight was stagnating, and it seemed like the emotions resurfaced and had to somehow processed that I might have felt when I had encountered that weight on the rise before. actually I am once more stuck on a certain weight maybe In eed to remember something there too. Could be. Well generally losing weight came with a lot of feelings surfacing and it was and partially is difficult to navigate this, but mostly I`ve settled into a certain ease about that, knowing that my emotions are happening in a curve, and that I obviously tend to huge heights and lows, which somehow balance each other int he time in between. I just try to see them as part of life, and sometimes I am angry and sad and whatever, and that is okay, too. (interestingly that was a feeling that came through very strongly when losing weight, anger, directed to other people`s behaviour, but it was the emotion that I was actually not really allowed to have from childhood on, not because my mom is a bad mom,b ut because she was more encouraging my compassionate and empathy side and always demanding to "walk in someone else`s shoes", which I integrated perfectly, better not tell that a Neptune conjunct ASC child! we are like sponges anyway. lol But anyway I am a lot often angry now, and people notice that, I mean I am not as keeping back with emotions anymore, and even if not saying anything, people just will know my energy, I suppose that is why P does not dare to come online anymore lately. He`s been subjected to my physical energy a bit too often lately and is too sensitive himself to NOT at least sense when I am less than happy with his behaviour, and frankly speaking, he cannot really stand the thought of being displeasing people even a little bit, but adopts the head in sand strategy most of the time. lol The thing is my emotions are actually rather fiery usually, but they are not prone to holding a grudge really. Quickly angry, quickly happy again. Some might call it moody, but I just figured I am not here to please other people but to live an authentic life. So if anyone has a problem with it, it`s their problem to deal with, not mine. But yeah, sometimes it is difficult to have emotions so close to the surface, especially since I have never had that when I was massively overweight. Actually my colleague, the Yoga teacher said, that to get into that mode where she can sense the energies around and so on she has to meditate for days and being on a retreat and then also do without sugar or salt, and that just made me think if that is maybe the reason that I am often having this desire for sugar and salt, not just because I am an addict, as I clearly am. lol, but also it sort of "helps" dampen this extreme sensitivity towards external influences, sensory input and sensing of energies. I mean sometimes just hearing traffic is so painful that it borders the traumatic. It is difficult to explain, but it is really sometimes physically painful. Like something is scratching with something very fine, but very sharp right into your skull, but from the inside. Today is such an intense day as well (well yesterday the coffeemaker was broken, so I did not get my coffee, and tea does not have the same effect), it is actually a beautiful thing as well as difficult. But yes, that is certainly something having broken up with the Pluto-transits, though the processing happened later, and for me there are often Pallas-transits at work. Today Tr Pallas is applying to conjunct my pr Moon, which is on the verge of changing signs anyway.
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Post by Violets on Nov 1, 2018 15:55:54 GMT
Dammit, since I only have time to log in here once in the morning on most days, I arrive late to threads that are already going (and I usually don't have enough time to read through all of the posts). That said, beautiful insight and growth, ladies. ❤
Pluto squared my Venus about ten years ago (while conjunct my Vertex), and my life changed beautifully and dramatically.
I ditched the emotionally abusive douche I had been dating off and on for ten years, and met my husband. I'll try to add more to that later. ❤
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Post by Ava on Nov 2, 2018 0:51:14 GMT
I mean, sure, the experience can be awful but I'd rather have an authentic, if troubled, experience than live in a bubble. 💓 I hope you get the bubbles, too, though. They can be really nice. Oh, and that's a good point, the Cap/Saturn influence in my chart might be comfortable with that energy. It might know the 'rules of the game' so to speak(?) Yes...that fits what I was thinking amazingly well. Hard to pinpoint why. edit
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Post by Ava on Nov 2, 2018 1:21:10 GMT
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Post by the89freespirit on Nov 2, 2018 2:01:25 GMT
Transiting Pluto has been trine my Venus for a few years now. It's sort of hard to tell the effect when you already have natal Venus in your 8th House!
I feel like, because of that, my 8th House Venus has been transformed a lot throughout this time. I still feel the transformations. (The trine is either exact now or about to be exact any day now as my natal Venus is at 19 degrees Virgo) Just confronting and purging many of my patterns in love: the powerlessness of being attracted to the unavailable, feeling "cursed" in love or like your power is a double-edged sword because it is both attractive and terrifying to people, depending on the individual. I think the 8th House is how we can be destructive and with Venus there, you have some really destructive ideas about love or compulsions in love that have to be addressed. It's even just in regards to self-love. Realizing that I don't have to tear myself apart (Venus in Virgo), convinced that there is something in me that I have to "fix", that I don't have to obsessively work on myself in order to be good enough. I think that has attracted many toxic or unhealthy romantic situations into my life. So, I am learning how to transform that, how to define my own secret (8th) sense of perfection (Virgo) deep within and be empowered enough by that to let go of a lot of unnecessary self-criticism.
Also, my only aspect to natal Venus is a sextile to my Midheaven, which transiting Pluto is also in sextile to. You have a pretty tough love life when all Venus is doing is touching your Midheaven, one of the most challenging placements in your chart! But, I am seeing how empowering it is to have and pursue a career I truly love and value and how it gives me the kind of happiness and fulfillment I want in a romantic relationship. I'm also realizing that I want a guy who does what I do for a living and loves it just as much because I feel like we'd have a more powerful connection that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 17:47:05 GMT
Ava I followed Jimmy Chin on instagram so I know this doc has been filming for a while now Violets it's a transit of beautiful contact and realization too. We break things down because we know they have to be rebuilt somehow. I'm glad you met your husband. I actually have met a mentor during this time who has been very great to me as well. the89freespirit it's surprising you said the transit of pluto sextiling midheaven was challenging. One would expect an easier time with the harmonizing aspects. So i went back and look at that time in my life, pluto was in 8th trining my moon and sextiling my midheaven and I went through severe illness and almost died. Northnode was on my chiron and Saturn was on my Rising.
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