Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:14:55 GMT
Let's discuss this freaky little asteroid. I genuinely believe that Pallas-dominated synastry will lead you to have a psychic connection with another person depending on the sign and what planet it's aspecting in synastry. For example(s)! (All are orbs under 5 degrees btw) Synastry #1: Themes: We had very similar, erratic styles of thinking. Both could visualize the exact same things at the exact same moment in conversation. Say that someone was talking about Prussia in the late 19th century - the individuals would have the same imagery in their head, and would point to the same parts in the map that was suspended in the air between them purely through their own imagination. They often appear in my dreamscape communicating messages to me more than any other person I've known. Synastry #2Themes: Saying the exact same complex sentence at the exact same time, in which both of us thinks it's an original thought. Quite FUCKING literally, hearing the other person's thoughts as they occur. The most blatant case of ESP in my life. Super duper nutty. I have Pallas conjunct Sun natally and they have Pallas conjunct Moon natally. They never appear in my dreams. Anyone else have any case studies like they'd to present to the court?
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 22, 2018 18:39:02 GMT
Ava likes this
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 22, 2018 18:39:02 GMT
That's amazing (esp the dream communication). I have my Pallas-Merc on somebody's Sun and their Pallas is opp my sun, sextile moon. We have that kind of bond - but we also have some Neptune involved in synastry/composite, so it's hard to tell what to attribute it to. I do think the Pallas aspects definitely add to it, though!
Oh, as for your question - both the themes you mentioned are present here.
|
|
|
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 22, 2018 18:45:26 GMT
I have Pallas conjunct Sun natally and they have Pallas conjunct Moon natally. Wow - you must be very intuitive yourself. And so are they, but you more consciously so.
It's conjunct your Sun, so it must be really prominent for you. Anything contacting that will send your ESP into overdrive.
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 22, 2018 18:58:29 GMT
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 22, 2018 18:58:29 GMT
They often appear in my dreamscape communicating messages to me more than any other person I've known. Saying the exact same complex sentence at the exact same time, in which both of us thinks it's an original thought. Quite FUCKING literally, hearing the other person's thoughts as they occur. The most blatant case of ESP in my life. Super duper nutty. I 💓 this so much! Could you check if you have any Neptune in synastry/composite with the dream person? Just curious, but we can discuss somewhere else if that's derailing.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 20:51:28 GMT
They often appear in my dreamscape communicating messages to me more than any other person I've known. Saying the exact same complex sentence at the exact same time, in which both of us thinks it's an original thought. Quite FUCKING literally, hearing the other person's thoughts as they occur. The most blatant case of ESP in my life. Super duper nutty. I 💓 this so much! Both of them. *hugs* Could you check if you have any Neptune in synastry/composite with the dream person? Just curious, but we can discuss somewhere else if that's derailing. Okay so you are onto something here with Neptune! In the synastry between Person #1, we have our Neptunes trine the Mercury/Jupiter conjunction we have in synastry (with Mercury being my chart ruler). His Neptune is also opposite my Jupiter. So a Neptune/Jupiter DW if you will. In the synastry with Person #2, similar themes, his Neptune opposite my Jupiter. We're all less than 4 years apart in age so Neptune seems pretty stationary here. In both composites Neptune is quite active too I guess it is hard to separate with is truly Neptune vs. Pallas, but I don't have Pallas nearly as prominent with others where Neptune is quite present and no ESP is occurring!
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 22, 2018 20:58:51 GMT
Ava likes this
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 22, 2018 20:58:51 GMT
^I see. Pallas does seem active in real life. My theory with Neptune is that the "good" part only kicks in after the individuals have been 100% honest with each other, like frighteningly honest. It opens up that portal to psychic communication because you are both then functioning from a purer perspective. With many people, we leave things out and so do they (lies of omission), or tell little white lies - and than call into focus the lower octave of Neptune synastry.. So, with Neptune it can go either way.
But I digress.. IMO, Pallas = clear vision, and in synastry this probably translates to - clear view of the other person's thoughts. So, it's like everybody else sees the brick facade of their house, but to you, it's like the walls are made of glass. Pallas was also about strategy and connecting the dots, right? So it's accumulating a lot of sub-conscious clues to form its own kind of intuition. Btw, your name has a connection to it too (I dunno if you intended that). Pallas Athene.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 21:15:08 GMT
I love the imagery you're painting here - I see Neptune as a gauzey sort of haze, rose-colored, sparkling, like someone rubbing a thin layer of vaseline on a film camera and going for that dreamy 1970's aesthetic. There's also a mutuality with this Neptune connection, I feel like both parties have to consent to it (in their heart) in order for it to go full bloom. Then you said it perfectly 12YearsABlob, Pallas is crystal clear. Like a medieval sword cutting through something deftly. I totally see strategy involved with Pallas, absolutely, understanding the unconscious links between things in an almost academic language. Pallas is like Uranus' sister that goes to medschool or something. I did not intend that (re: my username) but I think it's perfect since I'm a Pallas-Sun person! Athena is pretty much my username everywhere. Perhaps some subconscious nod to the asteroid infiltrating my DNA.
|
|
|
Post by lumina on Sept 22, 2018 21:21:47 GMT
Pallas is an interesting one to me. Usually when I have highly intuitive (Or even bizarre) outstanding episodes happening, there are strong Pallas transits at play. Natally I have Pallas in Aquarius in an exact minor triangle with Pluto (trine) and Neptune (sextile) P has Pallas in Aquarius as well (not conjunct) trine his Pluto, albeit more widely, but so it comes up in our composite again, Pallas trine Pluto, sextile Mercury-Neptune, in our case. and our compospite Pallas falling onto my natal Moon exact.
Sometimes the link is a little bizarre I would say, random almost, so many examples but one thing is that I always know when he is going to post something important, a reply to me, or especially when he is uploading another episode of his podcast. Whenever he does, I see it visually, even right into my dream. It`s like one of those annoying advertisement pop ups that show up out of nowwhere, with no relation to the rest of the dream. Of course it is not annoying in this instance.
When we were talking last month, he was telling a story about colleagues without saying the names, and I was thinking of a particular actor, and without missing a beat he said: "No, not XY" - naming the exact one I had been thinking about, and I asked him how he knew I had been thinking about him, but he thought it was an obvious choice, to which I pointed out I could also have mentioned "XZ", and he grinned, admitting that XZ was one of those he was referring to (and as I just learned is going to be the one he is sharing the stage with next year at that place. LOL I am sure he already knew when we were talking!)
His Pallas conjuncts Psyche natally for him (and squaring his Uranus, the dispositor of Pallas-Psyche) and is conjunct my Psyche within 1 degree at most (and of course his Uranus squares my Psyche as well).
But we also have a DW sextile of Mercury-Pluto, and a DW conjunction of Mercury-Neptune (his Mercury is exact on my Neptune, and obviously sextile my Pluto and Pallas; my Mercury exactly sextiles his Pallas as well).
Additionally my Mercury is conjunct his Sun and Moon on his MC. his MErcury is conjunct (my Neptune) and NN and Mars on my ASC.
Mercury rules the 3rd, 4th and 7th house for him, Neptune rules my 3rd, Mars rules my 4th and Mercury rules my 7th.
and then there is the composite with the Mercury-Neptune-conjunction, with a lot of aspects, including perfecting the minor trine with Pallas and Pluto. Basically they are all interconnected, Mercury-Neptune, Pallas and Pluto and then some more.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 21:27:43 GMT
Wow, I love that story lumina! I think that's a perfect example how Pallas works in synastry - a person is never "one step ahead" per se, they're just able to effortlessly read between the lines. It's just so natural and *obvious* how the connection plays out, but it leaves other people with their mouth hanging open like some kind of supernatural trick just occurred.
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 22, 2018 23:48:59 GMT
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 22, 2018 23:48:59 GMT
I love the imagery you're painting here - I see Neptune as a gauzey sort of haze, rose-colored, sparkling, like someone rubbing a thin layer of vaseline on a film camera and going for that dreamy 1970's aesthetic. There's also a mutuality with this Neptune connection, I feel like both parties have to consent to it (in their heart) in order for it to go full bloom. Yes! Good point. We can each feel the other 'shutting us out' periodically, whenever there's a rough patch. Pallas is like Uranus' sister that goes to medschool or something. Haha, perfect!
|
|
|
Post by Ava on Sept 23, 2018 22:13:13 GMT
Y'all are amazing, and I've enjoyed this thread so much. Pallas isn't strong in my chart. lumina has mentioned before that Pallas transits can affect the crown chakra (correct me if I'm wrong) -- it seems so to me. There have been times when my crown chakra is extra tingly and I've checked the chart, and lo and behold, Pallas was hitting my natal dead-on somewhere. For example, in the weeks following the LL fallout, my scalp was basically totally on the fritz, electrified. At that time, tr Pallas in Pisces was sitting between tr Neptune and my moon in Pisces, applying to conjunction with my moon. My head was buzzing all the time. Strange So I don't know, maybe that's the elemental expression of it, this crown-chakra activation? Spiritual engagement? edit
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 24, 2018 8:34:28 GMT
Post by lumina on Sept 24, 2018 8:34:28 GMT
Ava yes, also that bizarre sense of surround sound, it happened the first time after I first met P. I wasn`t quite able to sleep normally that night, and it was like I was listening in to whereever he was. lol I remember hearing someone asking to close the window because of a draft, clinking and glass and just random sounds like that, it was almost like I was listening through someone else. WEird, right? In following years I usually after seeing him, the night after that, was just hearing noises, sometimes just pacing around in a room. This has gotten less though, anyway at some occasion last year or so I was hearing that again, shreds of words, fragments and a continual pacing around the room, which wouldn´t let me sleep (though it was just in my mind of course), but anyway at some point I was so unnerved I was actually calling out into the darkness: "Go to sleep, God damn it! I can´t sleep either, if you are making such a noise." Well the noises faded away shortly after this. But it`s just weird, maybe it is Pallas. The first meeting chart and consequently the night after had Tr Pallas on 0°54 Taurus, right on my progressed Moon back then and opposing my Uranus. and actually the first meeting chart itself has Pallas 00 Taurus Pluto 00 Cap Moon 01 Cap Saturn 02 Virgo I find the Pallas-Pluto-trine interesting in particular as we both have it natally and the composite has it as well and apparently we met at a time when that was repeated in the sky. my EVC with the first meeting chart had Pallas conjunct Chiron on 20 Pisces in 3rd house (widely conjunct Venus on 16 Pisces, which was conjunct Sun on 14 Pisces) trine Pluto on 19 Scorpio in 11th house his EVC with the first meeting chart had Pallas on 27 Pisces conjunct Venus on 26 Pisces (conjunct Chiron on 00 Aries) in 2nd house trine Pluto conjunct NN on 26 Scorpio in 10th house and part of a wide Yod, but making close midpoints: Pallas 27 Pisces Venus 26 Pisces Uranus-Neptune 22 Aquarius Mars 24 Leo
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 24, 2018 8:37:28 GMT
Post by lumina on Sept 24, 2018 8:37:28 GMT
another random yet hilarious occurrence shows up in the synastry with Lancelot
my Pallas conjunct his Eros, both on 9 Aquarius his Pallas on 22 Aquarius conjuncts my Psyche on 24 Aquarius
my Pallas and his Eros are also falling onto our composite Mercury-Venus on 10 Aquarius his Pallas conjuncts our composite Sun exact (my Psyche conjuncts it within 2 degrees as well)
|
|
|
Post by lumina on Sept 24, 2018 8:50:35 GMT
In all three cases there is somewhat of a minor triangle with Pallas, Pluto and Neptune, albeit for Lancelot and P it is wide, Lancelot and me also have Neptune conjunct Pluto/Pallas, which is not the case for P.
However since my minor triangle is so exact, these occur in the composites as well
With P
Pallas 16 Aqua Pluto 15 Libra Neptune 15 Sag (conjunct Mercury 17 Sag)
With Lancelot
Pallas 15 Aqua (conjunct Psyche and Vesta, both on 14 Aqua) Pluto 13 Libra Neptune 15 Sag
And I met, well first talked to either of them when there was something like this in the sky.
With P:
Pallas 00 Taurus
Pluto 00 Cap Moon 01 Cap
Saturn 02 Virgo
Neptune was out of this range however (at 24 Aquarius, but of course Tr Neptune had been exact on our composite Psyche-Antivertex and progressed composite Venus)
With Lancelot:
Pallas 14 Taurus (I seem to like Taurus-Pallas for first meeting charts. lol)
Pluto 17 Cap
Neptune 12 Pisces (opposite Sun 11 Virgo)
of course the orbs are too wide here with lancelot, but Pallas was exactly on the Sun/Pluto-mp, which I find interesting, in the fmc with P, Pallas was exactly trine a Moon-Pluto-conjunction.
And Pluto-Pallas also is a red thread through the EVC`s therefore with the first meeting charts:
Mine with Lancelot:
Pallas on 26 Pisces trine Pluto on 28 Scorpio (on MC on 28 Scorpio) sextile Neptune on 26 Cap
Mine with P:
Pallas-Chiron on 20 Pisces trine Pluto 19 Scorpio sextile Neptune 17 Cap
P with me:
Pallas-Venus 27-26 Pisces trine Pluto-NN 26 Scorpio sextile Uranus-Neptune 22 Cap (okay too wide, but the Pallas-Pluto is there)
Lancelot:
Pallas 3 Aries trine Pluto 2 Sag sextile Neptune 1 Aquarius
|
|
|
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 27, 2018 1:29:15 GMT
It's interesting to see the EVC and multi-composite of such events. Just saw a few and there seems to be significant Pallas (+ Neptune) action.
One of his best (IMO) moments of telepathy has Pallas-Jupiter trine Moon-Merc in the event composite. Also, Neptune square Sun/Merc/Venus, trine Jupiter. The EVC moon was conjunct my natal Moon (he spoke what was in my heart).*
The multi-composite (including me) has Neptune-Uranus square Sun/Moon/Merc/Venus, trine Jupiter, with Pallas trine/sextile some of that. Chiron & the nodes were also involved with that stellium - it was an emotional time, and we did begin to heal an old wound.
*P.S. I suspect Pallas conj Jupiter and Moon conj Merc added to the theme.
|
|
|
Post by lumina on Sept 27, 2018 8:29:40 GMT
12YearsABlob that is a very interesting idea, and compelling evidence in your EVC.
|
|
|
Post by lumina on Sept 27, 2018 8:53:37 GMT
This was the multicomposite of when P was asking me to have coffee with him
|
|
|
Pallas
Sept 27, 2018 14:05:40 GMT
Ava likes this
Post by lumina on Sept 27, 2018 14:05:40 GMT
Even the 11t house makes sense. lol
|
|
|
Post by Ava on Sept 27, 2018 14:11:34 GMT
12YearsABlob , Love that story. Is that Steve? And I appreciate the multi-composite idea, too. lumina , the one above speaks for itself. edit
|
|
|
Post by 12YearsABlob on Sept 27, 2018 14:28:54 GMT
lumina , I can't take my eyes off that Moon-Mars conjunction. Ava , it *does* seem to work like that! (Sending a telepathic message for something and getting it).. If the people in question are in tune like you guys are. As athena said, the Neptune stuff needs both people to 'consent' to it. Both being in the space of wanting to connect, probably does the trick. And yeah, that was Steve..
|
|