What do you think of this Composite: Mega stellium

[FruityLlama]

This composite looks amazing but I don't know what to think about the uranus aspects. i read on LL that it was horrible but what about all those jupiter and venus aspects? plus pluto aspecting the stellium too makes it meaningful apparently..
Plus NN-Valentine and Vertex-DSC! 

My question is to what extent is Uranus, or something like this a "deal breaker" (as far as astrology goes I mean)? What are your experiences with composites?

In this particular instance I can see Uranus pertaining to a unconventional relationship as there is an age gap, difference in country of origin, family lives are very different etc. 
But to what extent would Uranus cause things like animosity, unrequited love etc. RAS (RIP) on LL said that Sun in hard aspect to Uranus would pertain to this, but surely you would have to take more into account?

Thanks in advance

[lumina]

This IS a wonderful electric emotionally bouncing Off each other composite with the benevolence of Jupiter. Btw Pluto does Not aspect the stellium. The only Thing i Wonder about IS how stable and grounded this might be and how effektive in day to day respity where You have to pay Bills, Care for children etc. But the Attraction IS Very palpable Here and Very electric AS isaid. IT depends a little in the Natal Charts how this will Work in the Long Run. For Urania people this might be Just the perfekt Match, for Saturnians possibly more Like a culture shock. But ob it's own Not doomed at all. Also let US Not forget that composite are midpoint Charts, so any conjunction in IT IS more Like a conjunction than a real Opposition. Just the different. Between near and far midpoint.

[FruityLlama]

Thanks so much lumina!!

Oh so sesquiquadrates dont count in composites? I thought they were included in the articles on LL but what do I know haha!!

I will have to look at one natal chart again that is involved. One definitely is Uranian in that its the dominant planet but both individuals have a bit of saturn in them too. Synastry has a few nice sextiles between sun moon and saturn

[lumina]

Well everything counts to a degree, butj it depends on the orb, and I would start with the major aspects, unless I am in a mood to do vibrational astrology. lol, however where sesisquares and semisquares become of utmost importance is when they are ont he midpoint of a square, then they are a real force that cannot be ignored.

[lumina]

the sesisquare to Venus might be in orb, but everything else is out of orb, and most of all Pluto is not in orb for semisquare Uranus.

Actually David Cochrane suggests to check the most exact aspects in a composite, preferably with 1 degree orb at most, to figure out the main themes of the relationship. He also states that once something exceeds 3 degrees, it sort of fizzles out, it might still be felt.... somewhat, but it is not that central. So I came to the conclusion that 0-2 degrees is the range that really matters in a composite (unless we have an aspect figure and then of course a midpoint picture, and you know the whole domino-chain-reaction).

What also matters are tight overlays (conjunction and opposition) to the natal charts.

And honestly? Even an Uranian needs a bitof Saturn to even remember next week they were in a relationship to begin with. lol It just should not be too overwhelming, or they will feel suffocated, and even worse, their brilliant spirit will start feeling numbed down, which is the route to depression and then after a while break out.

[12YearsABlob]

Hello!
Wow, that IS quite a stellium. And Jupiter trining most of it - awesome.
You have a sun-moon conjunction, on top of everything else!? You must be so in tune with each other. <3

As for your doubts about Uranus - it does not engender animosity, IMO. Even if things end, there's usually 'no hard feelings'. Can't say for sure without looking at the natals, of course - but Uranus by itself would not breed animosity.
The only thing to keep in mind is to hold this relationship loosely, and not have too many expectations. Uranus is an electrifying influence - but it does take its own course. Paraphrasing Jewel Mayberry - if we have expectations that don't pan out, we are inclined to think of the relationship as unsuccessful. Whereas in fact, the relationship might indeed have been successful, we just didn't see it because we're trying to make it fit our 'vision' of what we want. Once we let go of that, we can appreciate the fantastic gifts that Uranus has to offer.

Do we have birth times for both people? Also, I'm curious, have you looked at the Davison? What is Uranus doing in that one? No pressure, but I'd love to see the Davison too if you have time.. 

P.S. I would sooner have doubts about adverse Mars-Pluto aspects in composite as potential 'deal-breakers' than I would with Uranus. However, I'm not sure I want to call anything a deal-breaker. Some things are really tough to overcome, but there are ways to handle 'problem areas' if both people try...

[FruityLlama]

Hi @12yearsablob !! 

Thank you so much for replying! I always thought Uranus was fun haha 
 
Here is the Davison chart- it looks similar to me, just upside down. I am not so well conversed with Davison charts- what do they represent again?

[12YearsABlob]

Hey there! It's like the composite, but it takes into account the midpoints between birth dates and places.
I 'read' them as I would a composite - just that IME, the Davison is a bit closer to how the relationship manifests in real life. I look at both the composite and Davison though - the common themes stand out and make it easier to see where the 'emphasis' would be. Sometimes the aspects change, sometimes they disappear, sometimes new ones appear. Here. for instance, we continue with the Uranus theme - except with the moon joining it now. So your emotional impulses and timing go very well together. Also, now the new moon has switched to a full moon. Sometimes, in a full moon composite - you take on the roles of those planets. Generally, the woman embodies the moon archetype and the man is the sun.
Composite - Gemini sun, Gemini moon. Davison - Gemini Sun, Sag moon. You will sometimes be the chatty Gemini moon to his Sun and sometimes switch over to broad-strokes Sag, optimistic, fun-loving, pushing the envelope, getting him out of his head...

The composite & Davison do represent your energies *as a whole*. But, just like with the natal, sometimes the aspects seem to play out via external forces (outer planets get 'projected' most frequently) - similarly, sometimes in composite/Davison, they polarise into roles.

Venus in Aries, sextile Mars - sparkly, impulsive, passionate.

I'm rambling, don't mind me, I can't read charts very well - just thinking out loud.

Thank you so much for posting the Davison!

P.S. You can tag me using my old name, ursula.

[FruityLlama]

Thank you so much for that 12YearsABlob !! Its so fascinating. I had a quick look at my parents and grandparents and they have uranus-moon aspects too- I think one of them is quite wide though. I like your interpretation of that because I think it fits incredibly well to how I see moon-uranus. I have it square natally and can completely understand how a conjunction would marry the emotional and quirky very well and between a pair of people, it really sets things alight!

I will be back when I can think of something more interesting to say or ask, but all I can say is thank you both lumina and 12YearsABlob !

[FruityLlama]

Just one more q sorry; if I was to look up aspects online or somewhere, would I just look up the composite interpretations? 12YearsABlob lumina ?

[12YearsABlob]

Hi, do you mean you want to look up the meanings of the aspects individually? You could pick one at a time and look them up. But some sites offer a small free composite reading. Even astro.com, for that matter. Under Free Horoscopes -> Astro click partner. You'll get some interpretations of composite aspects. There's also grupovenus.

[FruityLlama]

Yeah just to get an understanding of it all, but Davison specifically doesn't come up with anything online, only composite stuff so I am just wondering if as far as interpretations go they are the same, just in a different context if that makes sense because I know there is a difference between the two charts.

I will check that astro.com thing out though thanks again!!

[12YearsABlob]

Yeah, as far as aspect interpretations go - they are pretty much the same. Jewel Mayberry, for instance, says that her aspect videos are applicable to *both* composite and Davison.
It's just a different context, like you say - but the aspect plays out the same.