Lilith (h21) and Priapus (h22)

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Priapus (h22) and Black Moon Lilith (h21) are usually seen as inextricably linked in astrology, usually because both tend to orbit on opposite ends of an axis together (though not always). Priapus is considered the perigee (closest to the Earth) and Lilith the apogee (furthest from the Earth).

The myth of Priapus is such: he was cursed by the Gods to be perpetually erect but to never be able to consummate his lust (to make a long story short). Try as he might, his sexual advances are always thwarted one way or another.

The myth of Lilith in comparison: Developed during the Jewish exile in Babylon several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Lilith was seen as a sexually wanton figure who was anti-motherhood (she stole and killed babies, etc). In the Middle Ages a theory developed that she was seen as Adam’s first wife who was punished for being unruly. Citation needed of course but that’s how the tale goes.

So really two ends of the same coin - sexual outcasts who were strangely enough created during times of sexual liberation long before the Common Era.

It’s said that women actually relate more carnally to their Priapus

Whereas men relate more carnally to their Lilith

In my small sample sizes, I can absolutely say that I felt the most consumed with desire when someone closely pinged my Priapus. My Lilith… not so much. My Psyche even seems to see more action in comparison.

Though I wonder how much of this is because my Priapus is so active in my natal chart?

• It’s conjunct my Sun (2°)
  
• Trine my Saturn (1°)
• Sextile my Vertex (0°)

And (naturally) it’s opposite my h21 Lilith (3°)

I would say I’m a pretty mild person when it comes to carnal pleasures - it’s pretty hard to tick all those boxes for me. The formula in itself is ineffable - I hardly know what triggers the lust. I don’t know if this is just a legacy of my Catholic upbringing or what, though a common factor I can certainly count on is… Priapus.

Even when synastry goes awry, Priapus is the smarmy jerk fanning the flames of desire in all these instances. Against my better judgement.

Consumed with lust example number one:

• My Priapus square his North Node (1°)
  
  
• His Lilith square my Saturn (2°)
  

Consumed with lust example number two:

• My Priapus square his Vesta (2°)
  
  
• His Lilith square my Mercury (0°)
  

Consumed with lust example number three:

• My Priapus conjunct his North Node (1°)
  
  
• My Priapus sextile his Chiron (1°)
  

No significant Lilith hits here at all.. But lots more Priapus from him

• His Priapus trine my Sun (1°)
  
  
• His Priapus trine my Saturn (1°)
  
• His Priapus conjunct my ASC (1°)
  

Consumed with lust example number four:

• My Priapus opposite his Venus (0°)
  
  
• My Priapus opposite his Pluto (1°)
  

Again no significant Lilith with him..

• His Priapus square my Venus (1°)
  
  
• His Priapus opposite my Neptune (0°)
  
• His Priapus trine my Pluto (0°) 

Consumed with lust example number five:

• My Priapus sextile his NN (0°)
  
  
• My Priapus opposite his Psyche (2°)
  

• His Lilith square my Priapus (0°)
  
  
• His Lilith square my Sun (1°)
  
• His Lilith trine my Juno (0°)
  
• His Priapus conjunct my Mars (1°)
  

And something I don't have with anyone else funnily enough: 

• Priapus trine Priapus (0°)
  

Consumed with lust example number six:

• My Priapus opposite his Jupiter (1°)
  

• His Lilith conjunct my Psyche (0°)
  
  
• His Priapus sextile my Lilith (1°)
  

Consumed with lust example number seven:

• My Priapus conjunct his Venus (1°)
  

• His Lilith sextile my Neptune (0°)
  
  
• His Lilith trine my Juno (1°) 
• His Priapus square my Mars (0°)
  
  
• His Priapus square my Uranus (0°) 

I’m sorry, I know that long lists like that can make the eyes glaze over after a while. What I’ve deduced is that in a woman, if she has significant Priapus hits in synastry with a male partner, one should hope that the male partner has significant Lilith hits as well. Otherwise, if the female party is dominated by her Priapus being activated, she’ll feel sexually in thrall with little leverage to use in the interpersonal dynamic.

Also, if there is strong Priapus/Priapus synastry with little Lilith, the “dominance” of the dynamic is again tilted to the male’s advantage.

But that’s just my hypothesis… thoughts on these asteroids?

[lumina]

IT IS an interesting Post, however i think priapus IS Like that for both sexes.

[Violets]

Very nice, athena!

I'll take a look and see what I can see.

[lumina]

I also find IT important to remember that WE are talking about lunar Symbols Here, both of Them. One being perigee, the Others the apogee, irrespective of the Mythos.

Priapus AS bringing the moon Close to the Darth, IS compelled to manifest Feelings in an earthly Sense, Birth Them Into the physical.

[lumina]

Btw a German author describes priapus-venus synastry AS the Most orgasmic and consuming Attraction possible, especially for priapus, compared to which even Venus Mars Pales in comparison.

Lol

I will let You know 😉 my pr Venus has Just entered 00 pisces and IS applying to p's Natal and Progressed priapus.

[lumina]

Well i am Not easily consumed with Lust (in a sexual Sense) despite Ast. Lust conjunct my asc exactly.


My own priapus IS in 00 Leo in my 8th House and squared by Uranus in 1 Scorpio in 11th House cusp.


My Lilith IS in 27 Aquariums in 3rd House Not dar from my moon though Not conjunct, IT IS conjunct my Psyche though.

You don_t really get to me without playing my Lilith her due respect.

Random Note

My Lilith dispositor squared priapus
My priapus dispositor sextile Lilith.



I also would pay Attention to their midpoint, a Point of Balance between the all consuming urge to Merge and the equally strong compulsion to maintain a sense of Self.

[lumina]

Lancelot and me Share a priapus-jupiter DW
His priapus IS also conjunct his own Venus.

According to himself He has never had Problems to find "a nice Girl to keep him company" 😁 i can Imagine. Lol

[Violets]

My Priapus is conjunct my Moon (1 degree), BML "conjunct "my Sun (less than 3 degrees for "true", and 4 degrees for "mean", anyway). 🙄

[lumina]

Feb 25, 2018 16:25:30 GMT Violets said:

My Priapus is conjunct my Moon (1 degree), BML "conjunct "my Sun (less than 3 degrees for "true", and 4 degrees for "mean", anyway). 🙄

Have You looked Up h21 for BML? IT IS the only real counterpart of priapus.


Ofcourse the lining Up IS Impressive. I guess IT means You were Born Close to a fullmoon that was a Supermoon?

[lumina]

Feb 25, 2018 16:46:31 GMT Ava said:

Feb 25, 2018 16:08:34 GMT lumina said:

Lancelot and me Share a priapus-jupiter DW
His priapus IS also conjunct his own Venus.

According to himself He has never had Problems to find "a nice Girl to keep him company" 😁 i can Imagine. Lol

He's REALLY HOT.

Is his Priapus on my moon? OMG

He IS. Hundreds of Girls cannot be wrong, right? 😂


No IT IS a tad wide dir a conjunct with your moon. His priapus-venus IS in 13 pisces. You actually might relate more to His Ceres-SN conjunct in 17-18 pisces. And possible opposing His moon. My Juno Likes IT, too 😉


IT IS funny, i only started finding hin really Attractive, once I actually Met him and was around him for more than five Minutes. And the Thing that is really hot about him IS how considerate He IS of Others Feelings while still maintain integrity and honesty.

Yes of course that Body and that appearance helps.😉

And still He does Not affect me the Same way AS p does.

[Violets]

lumina no, I'll have to look at that one. But yes, I was born during a full moon (Sun/Moon are at 6.45 and 5.46, which I've always found extra weird, as the numbers are reversed in addition to being in opposition).

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Whoa I just made a chart of the moment and transitting Priapus (5° Leo) is currently conjunct t. Ceres (6° Leo), which is forming a yod with Saturn (7° Cap) and the Sun (7° Pisces) at the moment Very timely considering I've been dying to make this post for weeks.

lumina, I agree with you when you say one cannot extract Pirapus from Lilith, they're essentially yin/yang. I don't know why but it's always been so difficult for me to understand the essence of Lilith, she just baffles me. Yet I feel as if I understand Priapus! Plus no astrologer should really make a post about one in order to exclude the other. However this post *is* biased in favor of Priapus due to my murky ability to suss out Lilith, though I'm more than happy to make this post about both! When you say that one has to appease your Lilith in order to get to your Priapus, that is fascinating to me. Lilith is the furthest away from the Earth, so she's more "untouchable" and theoretical (in my mind), yet you find yourself more in tune with her and I with Priapus (closest to the Earth). I almost wonder if this is a question of one being airy/firey (like yourself) and one being more earthy/water (like myself), hence why a person will gravitate more towards one than the other? More things to mull over..

[Violets]

So I have Lilith (h21) and Pallas at 1 Pisces, BML at 2 Pisces, "true" BML at 4 Pisces, Sun at 6 Pisces. Hekate at 0 Virgo, Priapus at 4 Virgo, Moon at 5 Virgo.

Nodes at 5 Sag/Gemini.

Not sure what all of that means.

[Violets]

I love your line of thought here, athena!

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Feb 25, 2018 17:40:31 GMT Violets said:

So I have Lilith (h21) and Apollo at 1 Pisces, BML at 2 Pisces, "true" BML at 4 Pisces, Sun at 6 Pisces. Hekate at 0 Virgo, Priapus at 4 Virgo, Moon at 5 Virgo.

Nodes at 5 Sag/Gemini.

Not sure what all of that means.

Let's see, how would we interpret Moon/Priapus.. as a Sun/Priapus person, I would say that for a long time I found sexuality so vulgar, so grotesque.. I was personally such a late bloomer in my group of friends, I would go out of my way to dress conservative and hide my body - yet this was to no avail as men would always be disgusting and lecherous in spite of all my best efforts to avoid this kind of attention. I wonder if Moon/Priapus also has this sort of impulse? Because we're naturally so in tune with what sets people off carnally, we're frightened of this energy before we grow to understand it and cultivate it to our advantage? 

With Sun/Lilith.. I would think this would have to involve sheer independence, grit, audacity in the phase of societal's expectations as a woman. Maybe Lilith is more concerned with perceptions and archetypes, and Priapus more with earthy, carnal energy? Lilith is abstract and Priapus more "salt of the Earth"? 

Then they're square your nodes which is just insane, I feel like there's so much karma around your identity as a woman? 

[Violets]

athena, absolutely, in terms of my identity as a mother and wife vs an independent, sexual woman defying societal norms. A lot of coming to terms with these things for me, and recognizing the unbelievably extensive, often subtle misogyny that has infected both men and women of so many cultures across so many centuries.

As far as sexuality, I was very much the opposite of what you're describing. Very sexual even at an early age (although that wasn't something I was subjected to, but I also have natal Pluto opposite Venus).

Interesting to note how these placements affect us differently!

Probably worth noting that my natal Uranus is trine my BML (both "mean", and h21 Lilith), as is my IC.

[lumina]

Great Posts everyone.

athena
Makes Sense to me. Being Fürther from earth bring's Lilith closer to the sun.

However i May be surprised by priapus energy😉


Priapus/Lilith MP IS in 14 Taurus for me, right in my Jupiter/Saturn MP and conjunct composit eros-priapus-ic conjunct from 14-16 Taurus, opposing Uranus in 12 Scorpio and square pholus in 14 pisces.


His priapus/Lilith IS in 10 sag, Just a few Minutes Off my NN and conjunct my Neptune and composit Lilith in 8 sag and opposite composit Jupiter in 10 Gemini.

In His own Chart IT IS conjunct Mercury and Venus/Pluto AS well AS sun/ Uranus and moon/Uranus

[Violets]

Haha. Here is my husband's cluster of Liliths.



My Mars is at 26 Capricorn, and my Pluto is at 8 Libra.

His Priapus is mostly just sort of hanging out in Piscesville, only making minor aspects (quincunx my Asc).

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Don't mind me for saying so but Mars-Pluto/Lilith and Pluto-Lilith/Uranus sounds suuuuuuper hot!

[Violets]

I don't mind, lol!

Now that I'm thinking on it, my Liliths and Priapus must aspect some of his placements as well, because my Moon is conjunct his Mercury, trine his Moon, etc. My Vertex is trine my Priapus/Moon, come to think of it.