Worldly desire, from a spiritual standpoint

[Ava]

Anyone else get confused?

Sometimes I don't know what the point of ambition is. If we associate happiness with an internal state, discipline, and decision, what does it matter, what our external circumstances are?

Often I think, "Well, I'd like to have this, this, and that happen in my life." But it requires effort, risk, sacrifice. So I loop around and think, "Actually, I'll just make the most of these smaller things." 

Not sure where the spiritual element fits in. One could justify both settling & striving with lofty quotes from smart people. 

What makes sense to me is hoping for an organic growth pattern that makes it easier to know where to go and what to do. Stronger and more refined gut feelings. But I get impatient because this is taking too long -- I'm still indecisive.

My NN disposited by Pluto in *Libra.*

I wonder if maybe dissatisfaction is just an integral part of life. 

[minceymouse]

From my perspective, if one was perpetually happy, one will not know what happiness is. The beauty of being human is that we are able to (well, generally) feel a range of emotions. How do you know what happy is without knowing what sadness is? One is relative to the other.

Again, we are but human. Assuming that the best idea of a human is not wanting anything worldly or materialistic seems to take the ‘human’ out of human. Embrace, rather than fight, wants and needs. As long at it is not harming anyone, why is it so bad to want and to desire?


Another thought it that change is inherently scary and it’s human nature to want things to be stable and unchanging. Being dissatisfied in my books usually means that it’s time to change something- anything.

[Ava]

Mar 5, 2018 12:01:32 GMT minceymouse said:

Embrace, rather than fight, wants and needs. 

I like this!

I need to let that sink in more...........

Just wondering why I can't seem to find any spiritual tradition that advocates building a good, colorful, happy life for one's self. 

I mean, there is no mandate to do the best you can to ensure lovely surroundings. It all seems to be about sacrifice and leaving the material world behind. Maybe I just need to get that out of my head.

All religions have an aesthetic component. I'm not religious but maybe just need to focus more clearly on finding my aesthetic.