extended nodal transits

[lumina]

Well I`ve been having the idea to check for the big transits, and just use the outer planets, and the 4th harmonic transits, to natal planets/ angles, and just look for same-degree-aspects (that seemed easier than always check the exact orb, and I just thought, this would suffice. lol), also cause I`ve had been the idea that while transits of the outer planets in particular might give their mark to certain timeperiods, because they hit the natal planets 3-5 times usually, and those the first and last hit would sort of form a bracket to that timeperiod, like one year might be characterized, mainly, broady, by Neptune-Sun, because over the course of the year or 18 months Tr Neptune would square n Sun exact, at the beginning, somewhere in between and at the end of that time period, and thus the year would bear the mark of Neptune-Sun. Something like that was my thought. 

But then I got distraced, cause I also checked for the Transiting Nodes. The True Nodes. Usually they only hit or aspect a planet (same degree-wise) during one months and then move on, I still thoguht that might be interesting to see, if those highlight certain months of importance or when some kind of event is "due". 

But while doing so I realized that I am going to have Tr Nodes square my natal Venus, 6 Degree Capricorn, from the end of august until the beginning of November! This is extremely long for a nodal transit, and happens because the nodes decide to move back and forth and back and forth on 6 Aries, in late summer and autumn. 

NOw, I just noticed that, I don´t quite know how to interprete it, but it seems to me like that timeframe might be... interesting, as if the astrology sais: Pay attention, look there, it`s going to be important. 

Or maybe not, who knows? Just wanting to share this and ask, if you had something like that before, the transiting nodes being in an extended transit to one or more of your planets? If so, what did happen? How did you experience it?

[lumina]

Also funny enough, I am on some fb groups, dealing with colour season and essences and stuff, and today someone brought up something about using the essences of our Venus sign (this is a completely NON astrology group btw) and if it might match. Well I`d think my Venus in Capricorn would need some classic lines, maybe understated dramatic ones, and as coincidence wants it that is what people tended to see in me when I shared my pictures. Classic and dramatic (and for some weird reason ethereal). Well obvously different opinions, but personally I think I do need classic lines/ styles, at least in parts to look "put together". NOt that I ever really do. lol But I thought it was funny that this came up and just a bit later I realized that transit to my Venus as I mentioned. 

[Ava]

Mar 12, 2024 19:13:30 GMT lumina said:

Or maybe not, who knows? Just wanting to share this and ask, if you had something like that before, the transiting nodes being in an extended transit to one or more of your planets? If so, what did happen? How did you experience it?

In 2018, transiting SN @ 5 Aqua was on my Mercury for over two months (square natal Uranus).

www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2018.pdf

A lot was going on and I was so restless and mind-blown I couldn't eat or sleep, I just took long walks whenever I could, trying to work off nervous energy.

Currently we have another extended nodal transit around 15 Aries on my Jupiter and draco Venus, squaring my sun...til about the end of May.

www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2024.pdf

Not sure what it means yet.

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Edit:

Actually if I think of what my sun means...one of the characteristics of mid-Capricorn is taking things to extremes, pushing the envelope. In the Secret Language system it's the Week of Determination. Last year when I relented and said that we could get a puppy, I committed to total responsibility for the puppy, calling on that energy that I harbor within....to do something wall-to-wall, top-to-bottom, with exhaustive research and focus, downgrading other priorities.

And here I am, mostly sleepless, in full training mode with my puppy. We have her in the kitchen under supervision at all times. This means that going into the other room for a hair tie feels like a luxury sometimes, ditto for being able to have someone puppysit so I can fold the laundry. All my kitchen activities are more difficult, going to the gym is impossible, even making it to my favorite health store is impossible (my sun in the 6th). I'll get relief on my husband's days off.

I'd like more independence (tr NN in Aries) and appreciate it more with these new restrictions. Also a puppy is an Aries kind of experience...hopping around enjoying the early spring flowers. Barking at cars. All that.

[lumina]

Ava

I love how much thought you put into that and into getting a puppy! Reminds me though on a different level on when I signed up for the patreon experience, that I did it fully aware or sensing this was going to be a real commitment and even making up my mind if I even wanted that kind of commitment, which seemed really exaggerating its impact or meaning, at least on the surface level, but this was exactly what it means. 

But anyway back to the puppy I love how you describe it, how serious you are about it, so Sun in CAppy, however that full blown Here and Now dedication and let`s do it now, seems so fitting for Aries! Yes, I think I start understanding this. 

Well I had not been aware, but of course it means that the current transiting Node is on my Draco Sun and maybe also of importance opposite composite Pluto on 15 Libra and squaring composite Venus on 16 Capricorn, and squaring my natal Saturn on 16 Cancer, interesting. 
pr composite Moon is at 15 Libra conjunct composite Pluto on the same degree, so that is interesting too. 



On a different note, I´ve just encountered some passive aggressiveness when buying groceries, at the counter, when I was paying. Apparently the money I was giving her was not smooth enough to her liking, which I acutally could accept as criticism, if she had actually told me directly, instead she opted for murmuring how horrible all of that was and how much she hated it, while I was standing in front of her, so opting for the passive aggressive route, which doesnt work well with me. While I can accept direct criticism, this just now just prompted me to leave the shop without even saying Thank you or wishing her a Good day, which I usually would do, and those little nitpicking things are the things I don´t forget. It`s weird, I can be generous with the bigger stuff, but that kind of behaviour, just meant to make me feel bad without actually dealing with me directly, nah, thats a No Go for me and usually changes my attitude to people forever. She probably won`t be hearing a Thank you or have a good day from me for a long time to come. And that, while fully knowing she actually is right about the underlying topic (I could have smoothed the notes before handing them to her,  it would have made things easier for her, which I had not thought about in advance, which certainly is something she could have told me), this kind of passive aggressive behaviour does not work well with me. 

Well my Draco Sun is in Aries. 

And well I know I am not really in the right, but I don`t care. I am still not accepting this kind of acting towards me, and honestly, this is tiny little everyday stuff, it doesn`T even really matter, but I can be unexpectedly unforgiving about this kind of stuff. Weird, isn`t it? But well people tend to underestimate my ability to just write them off, because I am coming across as so calm and easygoing most of the time. Well there is a limit to everything and my limits are weirdly placed. lol 

[Ava]

lumina

That is so funny! My son was just in here talking about "money laundering"...as in, taking crumpled dirty money and turning it into crisp bills.

Be back later

[Ava]

Thank you lumina for appreciating my work with the puppy...so far, so good.

Mar 13, 2024 16:34:40 GMT lumina said:

Reminds me though on a different level on when I signed up for the patreon experience, that I did it fully aware or sensing this was going to be a real commitment and even making up my mind if I even wanted that kind of commitment, which seemed really exaggerating its impact or meaning, at least on the surface level, but this was exactly what it means.

I wonder what the transits were then, I know we went over it but...on topic, what were the nodes doing?

Mar 13, 2024 16:34:40 GMT lumina said:

Well I had not been aware, but of course it means that the current transiting Node is on my Draco Sun and maybe also of importance opposite composite Pluto on 15 Libra and squaring composite Venus on 16 Capricorn, and squaring my natal Saturn on 16 Cancer, interesting. 
pr composite Moon is at 15 Libra conjunct composite Pluto on the same degree, so that is interesting too.

So much going on! Transiting draconic Pluto @ 15 Cap also.

All the modalities are equal of course but with the cardinal modality connected to the angles and angular houses, I do wonder if things are more likely to take shape, pick up steam, come to the forefront more obviously when this energy is strong. Also, some astrologers say the mid-degrees are like the "peak" of the sign, the epitome....or whatever they said.

Still, I think of Pluto as tamping things down, maybe counteracting that forward motion. (?) Gauging things around me it's like things aren't charging ahead, they're a little stuck. Well kind of like your transaction with the cashier, you set a new policy with her based on a bad experience. The energy got stuck there?

My husband watched the puppy while my kids and I went to see Dune 2 yesterday. Typically I dislike violence/explosions but there were some spectacular effects like that (vague spoiler) and it was honestly refreshing to just see the destruction that had been hinted at and worried about for literally hours finally just burst out. Kinda like draco Pluto squaring Aries/Mars energy. Good thing it's fictional. In real life, feels better to just worry than have to go through the actual problem reaching a head.

Weirdly I think a lot of the hyperfocus on Kate Middleton lately is symbolic of the current energy. There's a distinct, "Is she dying, is the monarchy crumbling?!" panic in the air, at least over here in our news. The transiting nodes hit her chart pretty hard, granted, but I've been wondering if she's just become like the target or container for free-floating angst. (?)

It's hard for me to gauge the current energy.

Anyway tr NN squaring your Venus looks interesting of course....well I wonder if the upcoming lunar eclipse squaring your Venus first will set the stage or create something that the nodal transit will re-iterate or build on.

[lumina]

Ava


I wonder what the transits were then, I know we went over it but...on topic, what were the nodes doing?
I had to look it up, I knew there was something significant, but forgot what, anyway. .. 


Mars 2 Aqua
Saturn 0 Aqua

Moon 2 Leo 

Uranus 5 Taurus


ASC 5 Sag, on my natal Mars, Draco composite Sun on the DESC. 


Sun 13 Aries, conjunct my Draco Sun, now that IS interesting, esp. considering the other thread about Draconic placements showing up in composites, it is not a composite but it was an important chart



speaking of Node

NN 2 Cancer (on Draco composite Moon)

square

Chiron 5 Aries
IC 3 Aries 


Interestingly pr composite ASC is on 3 Aries I think, 2 or 3 Aries. 


and there was Jupiter conjunct Pluto exact, on 24 Cap, but well obviously this was the beginning of Covid, or the month after it started. 



 I do wonder if things are more likely to take shape, pick up steam, come to the forefront more obviously when this energy is strong.
Makes sense from an astrology point of view. Well as for the actual experience at the moment, there`s nothing to speak of, we are both busy individually.





Still, I think of Pluto as tamping things down, maybe counteracting that forward motion. (?)
Exactly like that



Gauging things around me it's like things aren't charging ahead, they're a little stuck. Well kind of like your transaction with the cashier, you set a new policy with her based on a bad experience. The energy got stuck there?

Yeah well that was interesting, I went back there today, but when I was to pay, I basically was looking away, not really avoiding her, but was thinking about something, and basically just looked at her very late; I was aware that she was watching me though, and seemed almost uncertain. I acted like always, except not as "friendly forward", as I would lke to put it, I only wished her a good weekend after she did, and I got a clear feeling like she had been unsure how I would react, almost like she was a little afraid even. 
Personally for me I think I set my boundaries there, and she realized that too, but there was no need to be nasty about it or mean, besides being mean or not polite or something like that would have weakened my position, as it would have shown she really got to me, and I did not want to bring that impression across. 
Which in itself is a pretty mean action I suppose. lol But seriously, it`s almost nothing, and there are enough cold and hot wars being fought in the world at the moment, no need to start one more in private, over something so insignificant. Still I think it was important to show that I was "not amused". 



 was honestly refreshing to just see the destruction that had been hinted at and worried about for literally hours finally just burst out.
Haha, love that, well as long as it is just in a movie.


 but I've been wondering if she's just become like the target or container for free-floating angst. (?)

Yeah so weird, I have not really followed the news, cause I refuse to read the gossip about that, but I found it bewildering to put it mildly, and just thinking: Jeez, just let the poor woman recover on her own. 

Also this obsession with having to see pictures and such, it is so weird and intrusive. I think it is totally okay if they share those freely, but to feel entitled to have a right (as a crowd) to see those pictures or get private information, just goes over my head. And no, it is not a good reason because they are public figures, They have their public jobs of representations and that is fine and that is osmething I can even see as a bit of an obligation if being part of the royal family or any other public face/ organization, but they also have a right to have a private life, and so she photoshopped that picture, so what? REally? THAT is something people get upset about? 




Anyway tr NN squaring your Venus looks interesting of course....well I wonder if the upcoming lunar eclipse squaring your Venus first will set the stage or create something that the nodal transit will re-iterate or build on.
I was wondering about that too. 
HOwever at the moment everything feels pretty meaning-less. Not in a bad way, just literal, everything feels okay, but nothing feels special, you know? 

[Ava]

Thanks lumina ,

That IS interesting timing there...

"speaking of Node

NN 2 Cancer (on Draco composite Moon)"

Hmm! You got me wondering about transiting nodes hitting our natal Venuses. So the project with P began with tr SN conjunct your Venus...now you're heading into tr SN squaring your Venus. In a few years tr NN in Cap conjunct your Venus. Maybe it doesn't naturally come together like a theme or story, but we're free, we can frame it like that no matter what. (Well if we keep notes. )

I'm glad the cashier toned it down. It's interesting how a casual incident can have so much going on beneath the surface.

"HOwever at the moment everything feels pretty meaning-less. Not in a bad way, just literal, everything feels okay, but nothing feels special, you know? "

It occurred to me as an afterthought yesterday that sun conjunct Neptune in Pisces will do that, I guess.

"but they also have a right to have a private life, and so she photoshopped that picture, so what? REally? THAT is something people get upset about?"

Yes it's pretty bizarre, maybe more sun-Neptune (?)...a lot of the comments I'm seeing express that same disbelief and bewilderment looking at other people and their reactions in shock. Like what is actually going on here? For my part I thought photoshopping was common. But people seem to have this moral outrage that Kate did something deceptive. Maybe it wasn't that bad and the original photo ISN'T far from the truth, and she trusts people will understand that once she re-emerges and looks fine.

A more interesting crisis, to me, is the literal fallout of Boeing. I think I've never seen a whistleblower get killed so obviously before, so that even the mainstream media or semi-mainstream has to wonder if corporations are capable of that. Again with draco Pluto squaring Aries NN, it's like secrets and death are there, as part of a possible turning point (I think Hellenistic astrologers call that "the bending," where a point squares the nodes.)

[lumina]

Hi Ava


Hmm! You got me wondering about transiting nodes hitting our natal Venuses. So the project with P began with tr SN conjunct your Venus...now you're heading into tr SN squaring your Venus. In a few years tr NN in Cap conjunct your Venus."
True, it is interesting about those cycles. And we`ve known each other for so long, so there are actually quite some cycles to trace.


It occurred to me as an afterthought yesterday that sun conjunct Neptune in Pisces will do that, I guess.

Ah yes, I had not payed attention (how Neptunian! lol) but that makes sense, I mean Neptune can sometimes be like a "sedative/ morphine" to planets.

For my part I thought photoshopping was common. But people seem to have this moral outrage that Kate did something deceptive.
Yeah to me it seems so hypocritical. I mean everyone on social media does it. lol