Tr Sun and Moon returning to its natal position

[lumina]

I just realized that this will happen for me on saturday (of course it means that my lunar Return and Solar Return will just be very close in time to each other). Still this looked at me.... funny. lol

Tr Sun 24 Sag

n Sun 25 Sag

Tr Moon 17 Aqua

n Moon 17 Aqua

No clue if or what this means, but just found this intriguing.

do any of you have examples of when that happened to you and how it manifested?

[lumina]

actually it happened before, some times, well roughly so at least,

2007/ 2008: Tr Sun on 22 Sag

2012/ 2013 it was EXACt: Tr Sun on 25 Sag, Tr Moon on 17 Aqua - sort of reminds me I have that coming up progressionwise in 2025 I think (pr Sun on n Moon and pr Moon on n Sun within 2 weeks of each other)

[Ava]

I came close to that last year. My solar return was on the day before my birthday, and the lunar return was the day after. SR moon conjunct Jupiter in early Pisces.

That was a surprising time, actually. I guess you could say I "fished" my wish (Pisces)...a few old friends invited me out and it hit the spot and felt like being young again for a little while. My college roommate's sun is conjunct mine and we go out for our birthdays some years and I love the little breakfast cafe we went to that year. People were crammed together so tightly it's like everyone's business was everyone else's.

My SR moon conjunct my brother's natal moon, and that was the year his wife was in the hospital for months after a car accident. It's almost miraculous how well she recovered, she was close to death for a while (I mean, on life support).

Generally things went better than expected that year.

[lumina]

Ava

interesting, and happy that that miracle with your sister in law happened. It seems to matching the Moon-Jupiter in Pisces vibe. 

I will have a similar thing this year, as my lunar Return will be on 16th december (just after the concert I am attending, so one more occasion where there is a Solar or Lunar Return happening on the concert day, in either his or my chart. lol this time it is my turn it seems), and my Solar Return will be on 18th december. 


By now I realized, that I was actually having quite a few of these occurrences, with Lunar REturn closish to the Solar Return (using an orb of approximately 3-4 degrees to my Sun, so counting from 22- 29 Sag really). 


1993/1994 - Sun 25 Sag,  I graduated from school and started to go to university that year


2001/ 2002 - Sun 27 Sag

2004/2005: Sun 24 Sag, 
2007/2008: Sun 22 Sag,


2009/ 2010: Sun 29 SAg 


2012/ 2013: Sun 25 Sag, 

2015/ 2016: Sun 23 Sag in 5th, 

2020/ 2021: Sun 27 Sag 

2023/ 2024: Sun 24 Sag - 


though maybe it would make more sense to look up the respective Solar REturns as the lunar Returns were just valid for the month surrounding my birthday, but those years probably had SR Moon either in Aquarius or Cappy/ Pisces

[vg]

I had this in my 2021 SR chart it was basically my lunar return. I will come later or tomorrow with the feedback for that. I have to go have a think(sorry Ava for not doing that sooner).

This is the thread for reference.

astrogarden.proboards.com/thread/2669/2021-22-solar-return-lunar

[lumina]

I am curious to learn what you will say vg

[lumina]

In short....

1993/1994 - Sun 25 Sag,graduate from school, started university


2001/ 2002 - Sun 27 Sag - first trip on my own (to Paris, to meet people I´ve only known from an internet forum; met Jerome Pradon, who played Judas in the 2000 DVD-version,w hich was a MAJOR gamechanger in my life, repeatedly actually, met my first musical crush ever, of years and years ago - so that for the positive, the dramatic tragic happening was that the boyfriend of one of my oldest friends died in a motorcycle accident, just a month before his 25th birthday)

2004/2005: Sun 24 Sag, - ah yes, THAT year, well I started working, and after the first months at a different school, got the job at the school I am still at. Also the year started with Jude Law and it ended with him. lol Well movie-wise at least. The movie that really got me hooked was "Wisdom of the crocodiles" btw, vampire movie, just pointing that out because of the emerging theme. lol (our composite has a large stellium of Moon, Mercury, Venus, Node, Sun from 22 Sag to 1 Cap btw, and I think Venus is actually at 24 Sag, so there you go, I was invested in that. lol)

2007/2008: Sun 22 Sag, - spent New Year in Berlin with my aunt, watching two musicals, one on 30th december, Robin Hood with my first musical crush ever, well he was on stage, me in the audience. lol and Dance of the Vampires on 31st december, spent midnight with my aunt in a cabin of a Ferriswheel, at the top just when the fireworks started, and wondering and even writing it down, why all of that year in advance just felt so significant and possibly fateful, and what kind of destiny would await me. Not going to get melodramatic, but in may that year i met Mr Sag, or rather we had the first chat. lol After a peformance of Jesus Christ Superstar.

However for me the most important maybe was my decision that, yes I can actually do short trips to trael somewhere on my own, even just to spend a weekend to watch a musical show or whatever, just because I want it. There is no reason why I shouldn´t be able to do that. So I´ve been doing it ever since. It sounds strange, but I was not aware of it before, that I am allowed to do that. lol

2009/ 2010: Sun 29 SAg - The Vampire years. lol Went to a convention, the Ring Con, so lots of Lord of the Rings stuff (and I have not even seen lord of the rings before.lol), but also some Harry Potter guests and Blood ties, first encounter, in written and TV form, with the vampire Diaries, which would air the year later here in Germany. It was amagical weekend, also cause the hotel just reminded me of well Southern Amercian luxury or how we Europeans imagine it to be. Well I was also a bit sick or actually on the way to recover from it. Also saw Mr Sag again after 2 years of not showing up to anything, because really, it had just been a chat after a show, why would he remember or care or why should I? And there I was stumbling into one of his first gigs at a Tavern with a new concert concept, which would require a lot of my presence in the years following, well not require, but I ws there.


2012/ 2013: Sun 25 Sag, one of the most heartbreaking years ever, lots of need to let go including my grandmother passing away, since she was my last remainin grandparent it also felt like the end of an era, of childhood or youth or something. Some painful insights. But also had me shedding appr. 30 kilos. Lots of important decisions about how to go about my life and what do do or not to do and making things more "real" in a way. The pain was necessary for that I suppose, though being in it was not the greatest feeling as you can imagine. lots of musical shows and trips though, as I had "given" me this year, just one year, to do just anything I wanted, see anything I wanted, anywhere, as much as I wanted to, just this one year, and then let go of it. Well it`s been 10 years ago, so that one year idea backfired I guess. lol

2015/ 2016: Sun 23 Sag in 5th, very happy year, drastic stylechange, at least some of my colleagues wouldn´t even recognize me with the haircut and haircolour I ws showing up after decades of not even having had a haircut. lol (similiar to now. lol) started my black and red phase too. But also in the second part of it, my nephew ws being born, making me an aunt, which was a tremendous happy change of course. Also started my involvement in a podcast, well as commenting at least. lol Ended with the first musical workshop I have ever attended, which also was hugely impactful for me, though this workshop tecnically happened on my next solar return, like the exact same day. lots of spontaneous short trips too that year.

2020/ 2021: Sun 27 Sag - well, Covid, right? But coming out of it, actually this had me starting my first Tiktok account, and someone pushed me to do duets, singing ones, though I cannot sing at all, but it was fun and it was well insightful to see just how scared and insecure I was and how much courage it took to place me out there, it evolved into more of acting or lipsync duets, which is where I am still at. Also had me see Dracula in Ulm, the musical, which is funny, as the time before, in 2016, I also saw Dracula, just in a different city. And in that one other year there was a vampire themed workshop, that is kind of interesting as far as themes go.

Got some insights into other people`s perspectives in me being around, too. Which was to a part almost overwhelming as I felt very much on display and jsut feeling like: hu, you can actually see me?

Neptune on my ASC often has me doubt that people can see me or that I am visible, which gives a certain kind of liberty in doing stuff, I mean if noone sees, right? But well that year pretty much had me reconsider that notion about myself. lol

2023/ 2024: Sun 24 Sag - ??

[vg]

Sorry for coming back on this later. I've been trying to figure out what happened that particular month. As far as I remember nothing happened that month, major decision was made before that LR. And the following few months were preparing for that change.

My moon and sun have the square. What I remember from that SR was:
-I moved to a new team
-did alot of trainings
- I found it very difficult and uncomfortable att he start and doubted myself alot

The decision I made and the move proved to be very good. After a rocky start(internally) it turned out to be a very successful year work wise. Very tiring too.

I was pushed out of my comfort zone quite frequently. I don't like presenting, but had to do it alot. I tried to drop many hints to say I didn't want to do but I don't they were obvious hints. Presentations where well received. Provided I have time to prepare I don't mind doing them as much now.

I can't think of anything else at the moment that was major. I'll need to look at my transits etc... and think some more. But career wise it was challenging, difficult, tiring but very rewarding.

I don't know if it's relevant but I believe this was the year I was reading less and less