Family patterns in draconic astrology

[Ava]

I'm sorry, these topics tend to be personal and somewhat difficult to follow, even for me when I go back and read them.

I feel compelled to document this anyway.

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Recently I was looking at family charts again and saw some patterns I didn't see before.

It occurred to me that astrologers who don't check draconic charts will miss these patterns entirely. I check these charts but without looking more in-depth at my great-grandparents, I would have missed this pattern:

Twice now over four generations: sun-Neptune synastry begets a sun-Neptune baby right on that conjunction, and all with pretty tight orbs.


1. My great-grandfather's draconic Neptune in Gemini was tightly conjunct his wife's (my great-grandmother's) draconic sun in Gemini.

2. Their daughter, my grandmother, has tropical sun conjunct Neptune in Gemini, right on their draconic synastry conjunction.

3. Her daughter, my mother, has a tropical sun in Leo conjunct her husband's (my father's) Neptune. 

4. Their son, my brother, has Leo draconic sun-Neptune right on their tropical synastry conjunction.


My father and brother both have their NN in Gemini conjunct my grandmother's sun (and her mother's draconic sun).

However, my brother seems to take after my grandmother most of all:

- Both have that sun conjunct Neptune natally (inherited from their parents), with a natal moon in Aquarius. (And both have mothers with draco moon conjunct Neptune in Aquarius.)
- Both have a sun/draco sun conjunction with their mothers.
- Both have Gem/Sag nodes affected by Uranus and Pluto: my grandmother had Uranus-NN (Sag), Pluto-SN (Gem). My brother has draconic Uranus-Pluto on his Gem NN.

Just a little extra:

- My brother's Pluto conjunct this grandmother's draco Mars in Virgo (near his Mars) and my grandmother's Pluto conjunct my brother's draco Mars in Gemini.

[Ava]

I've found an example of the reverse coming into play, where a NATAL conjunction becomes a SYNASTRY conjunction in the following generations:

This great-grandmother had a tight Mars-Uranus conjunction in late Taurus. Her daughter's Mars is there, and HER daughter's Uranus is there. This is apparently a hot zone in my family, 20-25 Taurus. This brother I'm talking about has his Jupiter there. I have my draconic sun and SN there.

My grandmother used to rave about her mother to me and she even named her daughter after her.

That makes sense especially since they had a near exact Mars/Mars conjunction in Taurus. Acting in unison with her mother must have come naturally. Contrast this with my mother's Uranus on her mother's Mars, and one can imagine the trouble they had getting along. Where my grandmother expected seamless cooperation, she got one surprise after the next (especially since my mother's Uranus squares her Leo sun).

Now, my daughter has sun square Uranus creating a fixed grand cross with my mother's sun square Uranus. It's a shame they never met, they might have been quite a pair. However, my mother died before my daughter was born (just like my grandmother's mother died before my mother was born). I hope that pattern stops.

Pls don't quote

[Ava]

One more:

I mentioned that my mother is named after her maternal grandmother. Their suns are conjunct and in the same stellium.

My mother's a late Leo and her grandmother is either a very late Leo or 0° Virgo. My mother's sun conjunct Mercury and Venus in Leo. Her grandmother's sun conjunct Mercury and Venus in Virgo.

Both had draconic Neptune in Aquarius more or less conjunct their draconic moons. If my mother was born later in the day she may have a draconic Pisces moon. I'm tempted to guess it's more likely her draco moon was Aquarius because of this pattern. I'm hoping to eventually reach a solid estimated guess on my mother's birth time, using astro genealogy like this.

[Ava]

Now that I think of luminary-Neptune conjunctions....

My husband's draconic Neptune is conjunct my tropical moon in Pisces, < 4°.

His tropical Neptune is conjunct our son's sun. This son has tropical moon exactly conjunct his draconic Neptune (0°02 orb).

Also, our daughter's tropical sun is conjunct her draconic Neptune (about 1°), trine her draconic moon in Pisces.

All of my children were born in the Neptune in Aquarius generation and that's my husband's draconic moon sign. Also he has four planets in Leo including the sun and these were opposed by transiting Neptune at the time. (My daughter's Neptune opposes his sun most exactly and she's the one with sun conjunct draconic Neptune.)