Venus Return composite

[lumina]

Ava mentioned those in another thread and that gave me the idea to check it, esp. since I remember having had a "second meeting" with someone, many years ago, and coincidentally when Tr Venus was conjunct composite Venus exactly (and I think shortly after a solar eclipse, but I would need to check this), so a Venus Return, and he`s still part of my life, 10 years later, and in fact has become with all its twists and turns and very slow movement more and more anchored into it somehow, so I thought that would be interesting. 


So just pulling up the Venus Return chart for our composite for this year, we must be about half-time, I am on the verge of leaving for work so just leaving the chart here. But interesting Return Moon is also conjunct natal composite Sun. 

I did not put it in there, but my transiting name in that chart is on 19 Virgo, right on the ASC (and his natal Lilith)

[12YearsABlob]

*Ahem* I think I mentioned it too!
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[Ava]

Our avatars are similar 12YearsABlob , maybe that's it. Though I have said so much over the last decade, I'm sure I have mentioned this at some point, somewhere, as well.


lumina

Juno-Neptune on the DSC? Did the invitation to run away to Mallorca come within this cycle?

Chart ruler Mercury in laconic Capricorn, on the Venus-Pluto MP. The song "Enjoy the Silence" comes to mind. Well you've had those times of just coexisting somewhere, comfortably or with just a bit of interesting tension, if you don't mind me naming it. Mercury sextile DSC-Juno-Neptune for "Sweet dreams" and various suggestive things I won't disclose, but go right ahead if you feel like it, I'm not squeamish...but anything along the lines of a fantasy relationship, playful things, they line up with that. Especially with his Lilith on the ASC, etc.

However, domicile Saturn ruling Mercury and poised between Mercury and DSC-Juno-Neptune definitely has its effects.

The other thing, that Mars-Chiron perfect sextile is ideal for hands-on healing, especially with Mars in Gemini (hands) and with the NN in TAURUS on their midpoint, conjunct Uranus, trine Venus, well physical touch would have to make an appearance here, if this kind of chart had any predictive value at all.

That's really interesting. Was anything transiting there (or at 11° - 12° of anything) during that event that you know I'm thinking of?

I wonder if anything will happen when the sun transits the ASC.

* Edit: New moon @ 21 Virgo on Sept 14.

[lumina]

Yes sorry 12YearsABlob IT was your comment, I Just skimmed Posts and confused the Avatars.

Ava thank you for your thoughts. I am still at Work but hopefully can respond later

[lumina]

Ava

"Juno-Neptune on the DSC? Did the invitation to run away to Mallorca come within this cycle?"

Haha, no, this was before.

Chart ruler Mercury in laconic Capricorn, on the Venus-Pluto MP. The song "Enjoy the Silence" comes to mind."

Love that song, and I think it fits.

Will not quote everything but I can see how what you wrote about manifested, yes.

 "The other thing, that Mars-Chiron perfect sextile is ideal for hands-on healing, especially with Mars in Gemini (hands) and with the NN in TAURUS on their midpoint, conjunct Uranus, trine Venus, well physical touch would have to make an appearance here, if this kind of chart had any predictive value at all."

It certainly did, and in line with the sextile character, in a subtle but smooth way.

That's really interesting. Was anything transiting there (or at 11° - 12° of anything) during that event that you know I'm thinking of?

Well that VR Mars is conjunct natal composite Jupiter on 10 Gemini (in composite 5th house), which is definitely interesting in itself.

For the event :

-Tr Vesta (10 Aries) and Tr Jupiter (12 Aries) conjunct VR Chiron

- Tr Venus and Tr chiron exact conjunct on 14 Aries

- Tr Pallas (11 Cancer) square VR Chiron (but also conjunct Draco composite ASC on 10 Cancer)

- Tr Moon (9 Leo) trine VR Chiron and sextile VR Mars

- Tr Sun on 13 Pisces, nothing to do that much whith that sextile, except the square to VR Mars, however well it was conjunct my Jupiter and opposing his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction, so there was that.

* Edit: New moon @ 21 Virgo on Sept 14.

Oh that looks interesting. However there is nothing planned for that date, so it probably will pass without major events, still it does look intriguing.

Well I was curious, just thinking, how hilarious it would be that after this VR with the Sun-Moon-conjunction the next one would feature a Venus-Mars-conjunction.

Well not quite, or maybe? The next one will take place on 4th february 2024 (so this Return phase was a pretty long one due to Venus retrograde), and it will feature a wiiiiiiide Venus-Mars-conjunction actually. lol

Venus 16 Cap

Mars 23 Cap (conjunct composite Moon exact).

Also

Mercury conjunct Pluto on 00 Aqua exact, (on composite ASC on 1 Aqua)

so there will be:

Mercury conjunct Sun/Venus 0°48

Pluto conjunct Sun/Venus 0°32

Venus conjunct Sun/Moon 0°49

Mars conjunct Mercury/Venus 0°50

Mars conjunct Venus/Pluto 0°42

Sun will be on 16 Aqua sextile Moon on 14 Sag - so the New Moon of this year will be followed by a sextile, and our progressed chart will have a Sun-Moon-trine just before the VR takes place

20th january 2024:

pr Sun 13°53 Aqua

pr Moon 13°53 Libra

along with some other pr planets on 12-14 degrees

Venus 13°46 Pisces

Jupiter 14°13 Gemini

Mars 12°09 Scorpio

Uranus 13°51 Scorpio

So there is that

and I also noticed how this year`s VR of the composite has a heavy 4th house emphasis (with a bit of 7th house influence), while next year the stellium will fall into the 11th house of the Return chart (well Venus herself in 10th house, but Mars, Mercury, Pluto and Sun in 11th house). It is interesting to meas the 4th house is pretty much dark side, things under the surface that kind of stuff, things that are possibly not really seen outside, but with a stellium right up there near the MC and in the 11th house, however that Return period next year will manifest, it will probably be kinda visible to "peer groups", and obviously interacting and relating to each other in a hopefully friendly context. lol Well lots of stuff happening in groups perhaps? Which would not be that much of a surprise. lol

It also matches the natal composite (with Sun, Mercury-Neptune in 11th house).

the natal composite Moon-Venus in 12t house - well perhaps some things cannot stay hidden as much as they were?

And Mars in the next VR conjunct composite Moon (and his natal Venus btw) rules that chart (ASC on 7 Aries); also in this VR period Mars is rather inactive, except for the sextile to Chiron (and there has been a lot of healing there, I think) and of course conjunct composite Jupiter, however next year that Mars has a bit more to do (between Venus and Mercury-Pluto, widely conjunct both, widely trine Uranus with 4 degrees, close enough to count I think, esp. with the progressed Mars-Uranus-conjunction building up, sextile Neptune, and of course conjunct composite Moon as mentioned).

We will see, like always, and like always we will probably forget about that thread. lol

Well this year isnt over yet, so maybe I should focus on the current Return chart some more. lol