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Post by lumina on Feb 4, 2022 15:58:53 GMT
With "big" I mean conjunctions/ oppositions/ squares from the transiting outer planets (and Tr Mars as an activator of other outer planets transits) this year? (I`d maybe tentatively include trines, too, though they work different than the 4th harmonic aspects, but well sometimes it is nice to have energies just flowing naturally)
Are you going to be hit by the transiting Mars-Uranus-Node-conjunction in august (18 Taurus)?
EDIT
I forgot to mention the eclipses, of course if an eclipse aspects a natal chart within about 3 degrees, this is very big, too!
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Post by lumina on Feb 4, 2022 18:31:51 GMT
oh forgot to mention on 12th august there will be a fullmoon from 19 Leo - Aqua; Tr Mars will be out of orb by then (25 Taurus), however the fullmoon is squared by the Uranus-Node-conjunction, on 18 Taurus.
This looks like an interesting day.
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Post by lumina on Feb 4, 2022 18:40:37 GMT
just a random Me-me-note, I just realized that my lunar Return that month will take place one minute before midnight (technically on the 11th august), but the fullmoon will be part of my Lunar Return, with Moon on 17 Aqua, exactly on the cusp of the 11th house, and Sun on 19 Aqua in 5th house.
Curiously even the ASC Will be factoring in. With ASC on 23°59 Taurus and Mars on 24°57 Taurus.
The NN on 17°49 Taurus Uranus on 18°51 Taurus
It is all within 1-2 degrees aspecting my natal Moon, and written into the months lunar Return, so who knows? Might be a noteable month (actually my pr IC at that time will be on 23°54 Taurus and pr Moon on 22°12 Scorpio at the MC.
pr Mercury on 23°37 Aqua (r), will be squared by that transiting Mars; pr Sun on 14°26 Aqua, is a bit out of orb, but maybe something will have happened before, kickstarting some development that is going to matter for august, when Tr Sun will be opposing that pr Sun or something else triggering it.
That is not strictly the topic of that thread, but I just realized that this fullmoon is going to square the Node-Uranus-conjunction, and that my Moon is sort of in this as well.
I fondly remember the Solar Eclipse of 2018 which was opposing my Moon, obviously this is not going to be like that, it is just a fullmoon, no eclipse,d ef. not a Solar eclipse, but curious how there is a lunation so close to the eclipse degree of 2018, I wonder if there will be some connection between both timelines.
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Post by Ava on Feb 4, 2022 22:41:59 GMT
I fondly remember the Solar Eclipse of 2018 which was opposing my Moon, obviously this is not going to be like that, it is just a fullmoon, no eclipse,d ef. not a Solar eclipse, but curious how there is a lunation so close to the eclipse degree of 2018, I wonder if there will be some connection between both timelines. Let's hope so. That is going to be an interesting full moon, squaring the nodes, with Uranus-Kaali-NN and Karma-SN. They say karma is a b*tch and probably especially when it's in Scorpio.
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Post by vg on Feb 5, 2022 8:15:27 GMT
Have been going though some big transits this past few(6) months:
Saturn Square saturn Saturn square IC Pluto square pluto/asc jupiter has been square venus, mars, vertex, chiron NN has been opposite jupiter/uranus, conjunct chiron and square mars Neptune square NN although its starting to move away uranus had been widely square MC and moving away from it now
Current: Pluto square pluto/asc Jupiter square jupiter/uranus NN square venus, karma, mars, vertex Saturn is tr my 4th house although not really hitting any planets atm I can still "feel" it
Later in the year: Jupiter will square NN, Moon, Neptune and oppose my sun Neptune will start to square Neptune Pluto square pluto/asc
I dont know if transits to draco charts are big but saturn has been square dr pluto/asc and saturn as well.
To be honest its been quite an intense few months, i feel a bit burnt out BUT i feel very lucky in a lot of ways.
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Post by lumina on Feb 5, 2022 9:58:20 GMT
Ava certainly looks like it! Did not pay attention to Kaali or Karma, though I maybe should, they are closish in my natal chart and I think pr Kaali might be around my DESC or SN or something right now, and previously I noticed her to be VERY energetic, like coming from some "underground" and manifesting like a whirlwind then, like simultaneously being condensed and spreading out. Very interesting experience, but maybe it is just my Kaali. lol And nope, Karma in Scorpio does not seem to be a lightweight either. Yes, Karma`s a bitch, but also sometimes Karma is giving us our due in positive way as well, though we usually do not call it Karma then but synchronicity, luck or coincidence, or happy circumstance. But on its own Karma is just about the results of previous actions, not necessarily bad or good. However in Scorpio it makes me think of some very dark possibilities. I mean sometimes it can get pretty vengeful. EDIT Just looked it up, "coincidentally" my pr Karma (12°13) has reached the degree of my natal Kaali (12°47) in Gemini. Pr Kaali will not reach the DESC, well it was retrograde at birth but must have turned direct at some point, if I remember it right it has been forever on 8 Gemini, it still is. lol Actually pr Kaali was stationary the year I`ve met P, on 8°01 Gemini, and it still is on 8 Gemini. lol (It will leave that degree for 9 Gemini in june 2024, but by then it has been at least 16 years on the same degreee, P`s Kaali, natally on 6°47 Sag - yes on my ASC -, is a bit quicker than mine, it will progress over our New Moon stellium this year, or maybe it already started, will make a mental note to look it up. lol (Seems it was on my natal Sun exactly at the end of 2020/ beginning of 2021. Interesting) I remember Kaali was playing a big role in when we first met too)
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Post by lumina on Feb 5, 2022 10:32:28 GMT
vgI bet this time was very intense for you! The Pluto-Pluto-square on its own is already termed one of the big transformative intense transits (along with Uranus-Uranus, Saturn-Saturn, Neptune-Neptune and the combination of those of course) - the more if it also includes a personal planet or point. So here it aspects your ASC, so I think the time is still ongoing. Saturn-Pluto is often referred to as the "hardest" aspect of all (though it can also be very constructive, if you`ve been "putting in the work", but it means putting in a "LOT" of work and not really expecting any easy rewards, David Cochrane also calls it the "bare bones" aspect, or the "No Dessert" aspect. It can be constructive, but it seldom is fun, and often enough it is well depressing, depriving, isolating (feels like that at least), like working and working but not really seeing any possible fruit to that labour, though if we work, it usually happens, and if a reward comes with Saturn-Pluto, it might be much more impressive than Jupiter-rewards, and lasting, but whatever it is, it is intense and often overloading the mental system or even bringing some physical hardships or anxiety of this). But it also is catalystic, cathartic and forcing you to be born into a new phase into your life (usually by taking away something you held on dear to, often we have to sacrifice something under Saturn-Pluto-aspects, that we have been clinging to, almost for dear life, but that we apparently are better off without as the universe things. As I Noticed it is not always about posessions or relationships or health being "sacrificed", though often enough it can be that as well, but certain mindsets or perceptions we were a bit fixating upon, we have to let go of those to be able to build a good future for us.) Just musing and summarizing. Sorry. lol Also while I do not believe that a transit through a house alone,w ithout aspects means anything really, I am very certain that while a transit is "On" at certain times, after it happened, we need some time to process the aftermath, so there is some sort of echo over a bit of a longer time period, while we process what happened and all the inner developments and sorting it all out. I have not mentioned it (though thought about it, but thought it might get too much), but yes, I think Transits to the Draco chart, esp. conjunctions/ oppositions (squares?) can be very interesting,t hough I have not yet come to a conclusion how they manifest. I am having no strong Pluto-transits at the moment, however Tr Pluto has been and is conjunct my Draco MC (24 Cap) and Draco Pluto (28 Cap) and squaring my Draco Venus (25 Aries) - I kind of have a hunch that this is much more important than astrologers usually would give it credit to. Well I was forced to take on a new job, or actually splitting my job between two schools, I would never have wanted to do that on my own, but people remark on how calmly I just accept it, when they would be upset or angry or anxious or whatever. I have been anxious and nervous of course (its something new after all. lol), but in a way, I don`t know, it just felt "Meant to be"? LIke even if this is just a half year job-engagement or change, I just feel like it is meant to be in my life for some reason, maybe simply to change perceptions a little? Open up to OTHER possibilities? Also working on the theatre project with my literature class, and if it all works out, that means it will be the first theatre play I am sort of bringing onto stage (well my pupils, I am just the person in the background keeping them company and giving an adive here and now if they want it. They really do a fine job on their own). So I guess that would fit the MC being involved in all of this. my tropical MC is on 5 Libra, don`t think there is anything going on there, though Jupiter will transit the IC at some point,b ut that is the IC, not the MC.
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Post by lumina on Feb 5, 2022 10:46:19 GMT
Also been thinking about how to "structure" my approach; Well Tr Jupiter, Tr Node and most of all Tr Mars are moving much quicker (usually) than Tr Saturn- tr Pluto.
So I`d think I would see the Tr Saturn-Pluto aspects as the "big themes" spread out over the whole year and working from a background for sure.
The others, Tr Jupiter, Tr Node and Tr Mars will be emphasizing certain month(s) and also maybe show how those background themes will manifest and when (in a certain month).
I mean we all have experienced or observed how a transit that we thought would be disastrous, let`s say Tr Pluto square Saturn, really wasn`t that way, but might have actually led to much more positive manifestations (maybe the transformation that took place was a comitment, a relationship forming, and the sacrifice was basically the "uncomitted" life of before, which we might see as positive).
If so I would expect some other transits like Tr Jupiter to Venus or DESC or ruler of DESC or something like that, maybe even the luminaries. (Tr Node the same). Also stationary transiting planets, I think I would think of them as having extra emphasis, so even a Mercury or Venus transit could under these circumstances become quite powerful and not as fleeting as we might think of them usually, due to their speed of motion.
Obviously eclipses might pinpoint those timeframes as well, well actually since eclipses are said to have a long "shelllife", I would put them into one category with the Tr Saturn-Pluto; the big themes and background motto of each year, even int he months when the eclipse is not technically in orb, but probably the eclipse degrees might be activated by the quicker planets.
Lunations might also pinpoint certain months.
Just putting out thoughts here. I just like to have a more structured approach, so I can sort of get a better sense of how those big transits might manifest, depending on the whole context of what is going on.
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Post by lumina on Feb 5, 2022 11:15:22 GMT
For me personally this year will have:
Tr Saturn conjunct Moon - just one hit (14th february), so technically in orb just in february, but who knows how long I will "chew" on that afterwards?
Tr Jupiter conjunct Jupiter - exact on 18th february, so just one hit, too, but well it is the Jupiter-Return
Tr Neptune square Sun-Mercury - in orb from april to september; the square to Mercury gets exact, the square to Sun doesn`t (yet) get exact, not really looking forward to that though
Tr Uranus square Moon - june-july; october-november
along with Tr Node square Moon (august) Tr Jupiter conjunct Juno (march) Tr Jupiter conjunct IC and square Venus and trine Mars (june, september) Tr Jupiter square Neptune-Node (until 17th feb) Tr Jupiter square Sun-Mercury (april)
EDIT
It looks weird after havin been through such a long line of Saturn-Pluto-transits in recent years.
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Post by vg on Feb 5, 2022 18:55:11 GMT
Thank you lumina This is how it has been feeling in all honesty at work(I've moved roles but feel very overwhelmed) "It can be constructive, but it seldom is fun, and often enough it is well depressing, depriving, isolating (feels like that at least), like working and working but not really seeing any possible fruit to that labour, ........... but whatever it is, it is intense and often overloading the mental system or even bringing some physical hardships or anxiety of this)."at the same time i feel and know im very lucky to have the role. sacrifice - i feel like i've been sacrificing alot of my time at getting no where. It's tiring. There is no such thing as free time anymore: "But it also is catalystic, cathartic and forcing you to be born into a new phase into your life (usually by taking away something you held on dear to, often we have to sacrifice something under Saturn-Pluto-aspects, that we have been clinging to, almost for dear life, but that we apparently are better off without as the universe things. As I Noticed it is not always about posessions or relationships or health being "sacrificed", though often enough it can be that as well, but certain mindsets or perceptions we were a bit fixating upon, we have to let go of those to be able to build a good future for us.)" The consolation for me is that I *most of the time* believe the universe wont give me what I can't handle, even if it means i move on to another role in the end. I was also told once "if you don't feel overwhelmed in a new role for the first number of months then you are in the wrong role". I dont feel like giving up just yet. I have saturn pluto natally(pluto actually rules my saturn as well)..maybe i am used to that pluto energy For you where you mention the MC - would it be perhaps your SA MC or Progressed MC perhaps getting hit by an outer planet?
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Post by geminiblues on Feb 5, 2022 23:35:46 GMT
So, Saturn Uranus Square has been flirting with my fixed T square all through this. Uranus keeps running over my Jupiter @ 14 Tau, Saturn opposing my moon @ 13 Leo, and nNeptune squaring and opposing everything from 15 Scorpio. Then again, I've been saying I'm not afraid of Saturn Uranus since I have Saturn opposing Uranus (and Pluto) natally, all square Mercury.
The Saturn Uranus Square is happening in my 4th and 7th, and my focus has indeed been on home and my adult daughter that lives with me, detracting from focusing on career and self.
The Leo full moon this month I think is happening close to my natal. Maybe that's a good thing?
My karma is in Scorpio natally, just after my Asc. Anyone want to interpret that?
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Post by lumina on Feb 6, 2022 9:58:30 GMT
vgI am kind of glad that what I wrote fit or matches reality, also sorry that you are undergoing such challenging times, but hopefully they will lead to very good results, even if you can`t quite see it now. But your reply shows that what I put out there seems to be a good description of that aspect, so it is a confirmation and will go in my mental notebook about "possible manifestations of certain aspects". "The consolation for me is that I *most of the time* believe the universe wont give me what I can't handle, even if it means i move on to another role in the end. I was also told once "if you don't feel overwhelmed in a new role for the first number of months then you are in the wrong role". I dont feel like giving up just yet." I agree with that and the quote is good to keep note of, yes probably that is right. This feeling of overwhelm is maybe a sign that we transition into something new and it takes time to adapt to. I have saturn pluto natally(pluto actually rules my saturn as well)..maybe i am used to that pluto energy Yes, probably that is the case. I am never sure if this makes things easier or harder to handle for people. Cause on the one hand they are used to that aspect, but on the other hand the circumstances/ current transits emphasize something that is already there in the natal and bring it out. For you where you mention the MC - would it be perhaps your SA MC or Progressed MC perhaps getting hit by an outer planet? Not yet. Sa MC and pr MC are on 23 Scorpio this year; eventually my pr Moon will reach this degree in september, but not now. I do have sa ASC: 25 Cap sa Neptune: 27 Cap sa Node: 28 Cap Though Tr Pluto is on and off transiting it (sa Mars is on 23 Cap, so Tr Pluto was there too, but is separating by now). Well sa Node is exactly on my Draco Pluto, and the Dracos being a nodal chart, and Tr Pluto being there as well, this might be at least interesting.
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Post by lumina on Feb 6, 2022 10:05:43 GMT
geminiblueslooks pretty intense to me, like a lot is "up". So do you think because you have Saturn-Uranus natally, it is easier if it happens through transits again? I am really divided on that topic, and I have read both opinions in astrological books, one saying, it makes it easier to deal with cause the individual is "used" to it, and the other stating that it brings it into clearer focus and oftentimes makes things more intense or more tense even BECAUSE it is already part of the psyche and maybe a vulnerable spot. I am not sure, well I did not experiencing the Pluto-Venus transit as easier than for other people, but it actually seemed to bring issues to the fore that I had to work on, while i Noticed that other people (without the natal aspect) might have had a challenging period, maybe some dramatic events happening,b ut after that they moved on from that far easier and were not so occupied with "working it out". But it might have to do with my personality I suppose. lol Not a clue what Karma on the ASC means, but if anyone knows I am all ears, I have that happening in a Davison chart, only in Capricorn.
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Post by geminiblues on Feb 6, 2022 17:34:52 GMT
Lumina
I can see it going both ways. Maybe it has to do with the nature of the aspect. Like, Moon Pluto might make the person more vulnerable to Moon Pluto. But I see the outers more like "I've lived here all my life, so it's just time to double down on what I already know. Like, if you've lived in a big city a your life, you're going to do better in a different big city than someone who has only lived in small towns.
Aspects matter too. Saturn Uranus is hitting a T square in my chart, so on the one hand it's activating those planets, but on the other, it's energy I'm familiar with, just in a different place.
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Post by Ava on Feb 7, 2022 16:35:01 GMT
My karma is in Scorpio natally, just after my Asc. Anyone want to interpret that? I would think people might comprehend soon after meeting you, that dealing with you is somehow a matter of consequence or clarification. I would think it gives you very sharp discernment and an air about you, like you cannot be fooled.
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