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Post by Ava on Oct 22, 2021 23:44:53 GMT
Some details * Transiting Uranus is squaring his Aqua Mars (1°) * Full moon hit his Jupiter-Mercury opposition on the nodes: www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Alec_BaldwinHis progressed chart has several planets at critical degrees: 29 Pisces Mars 0 Gemini Mercury (conjunct tr NN) 29 Leo Pluto 0 Scorpio true NN...so the full moon has a sort of "eclipse" impact on his chart?...also his natal Mercury 0 Taurus, on pr SN. Not to be disrespectful but it's literally mind-blowing that this could happen. His pr Chiron @ 22 Aqua exactly conjunct stationary direct Jupiter there. His pr Jupiter @ 22 Libra conjunct transiting Mars. |
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Post by lumina on Oct 23, 2021 9:17:28 GMT
Avaheard about it yesterday. This is so tragic, for all involved, and my compassion goes out to the family of the killed camerawoman and herself, but also to Alec Baldwin. This must be such a traumatic experience to become an involuntary killer, and I don´t think anyone could ever recover from that, if I am honest. I couldn`t. The astrology is of course compelling and shocking too.
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Post by Ava on Oct 23, 2021 13:34:31 GMT
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Post by lumina on Oct 23, 2021 13:52:16 GMT
Yes, this would point to an event of a global scale I think, but somehow I don`t feel like this really fits the shooting. Of course Pluto can be destructive and Neptune as well, and Jupiter making things REALLY big, esp. because of them being stationary, but none of these symbolize guns or explosions, ruptures. I wonder if Mars is somehow figuring into this. If this is the astrological factor here, then I think something else must come into it additionally, and my bets would be on Mars or/ and Uranus. |
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Post by Ava on Oct 23, 2021 19:16:43 GMT
Right, I don't know what to attribute the accident to, lumina. The victim's birth data could be revealing. And I do think tr Jupiter stationing exactly on Baldwin's pr Chiron in Aqua is noteworthy. |
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Post by lumina on Oct 23, 2021 20:02:42 GMT
Ava Yes, I agree, the victims birth data compared with Baldwin`s and the transits would probably be revealing. Also yes, Tr Jupiter on his Chiron or pr Chiron is noteworthy, I mean we must remember that Jupiter is not ALWAYS benevolent. Often it just expands what it touches, esp. when being stationary, so there could be excess of what he touches, so here excessive wounding. Actually that IS interesting. Chiron was being shot after all! (by an arrow, but OUR ARrows are guns nowadays, and it was an accident too). Maybe Pholus would also be relevant, but not sure.
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Post by Ava on Oct 23, 2021 21:53:57 GMT
Good point about Jupiter lumina. Tr sun was right on Baldwin's Jupiter, too. Also...yeah, I'd say Pholus was active. Natally his Pholus @ 10 Aqua widely conjunct Mars @ 12 Aqua. His EVC has sun-Venus-Pholus all @ 21 Cap. (!!!) Her last name was Hutchins, transting Hutchings was exactly conjunct his natal Atropos @ 21 Cancer (opposing that EVC cluster). EVC Mercury 20 Cancer, moon 24 Cancer using noon charts. His EVC has NN @ 16 Leo exactly squaring Hutchings @ 16 Taurus. His chart is more or less a full moon chart, so full moons give him an EVC full moon. Obviously his natal Aries sun, Libra moon is the reverse of this past full moon. His draco sun @ 12 Virgo opp transiting draco Uranus @ 11 Pisces and transiting draco moon (haven't checked time of incident.) But that is more or less conjunct his draco Pisces moon, too. |
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Post by Ava on Oct 24, 2021 1:17:51 GMT
His draco sun @ 12 Virgo opp transiting draco Uranus @ 11 Pisces and transiting draco moon (haven't checked time of incident.) But that is more or less conjunct his draco Pisces moon, too. She was apparently born in 1979, when Saturn and the nodes were conjunct in mid Virgo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halyna_Hutchinswww.astro.com/swisseph/ae/1900/ae_1979.pdfEclipses for that year Feb 26, 1979 11:45 AM Sun 7 Pis 30 Conjunct Moon 7 Pis 30(SE) Mar 13, 1979 4:14 PM Sun 22 Pis 42 Opposition Moon 22 Vir 42(LE) Aug 22, 1979 1:10 PM Sun 29 Leo 01 Conjunct Moon 29 Leo 01(SE) Sep 6, 1979 6:59 AM Sun 13 Vir 16 Opposition Moon 13 Pis 16(LE) Well that last one matches Baldwin's draconic sun/moon opposition and Chiron was @ 13 Taurus then (where Uranus is transiting now.) Wonder if that's her prenatal eclipse. Makes sense for her to have Jupiter in Leo, being a cinematographer. I don't know why I get fixated on things like this, but it's like I'm counting on the Universe to explain tragedy to me. Not sure cosmic order is really any consolation, no matter how clearly it's spelled out. |
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Post by Ava on Oct 24, 2021 2:53:06 GMT
Wow, so the time of the emergency call was 1:40 pm, location is just outside of Santa Fe, NM.
Edit:
1:50 pm
Will post a chart soon
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Post by lumina on Oct 24, 2021 10:01:54 GMT
that is where astrology almost gets creepy in its pointedness.
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Post by Ava on Oct 24, 2021 13:27:28 GMT
that is where astrology almost gets creepy in its pointedness. * Scratch that, I had the time wrong. Also, name asteroids are freaky. Belatedly I checked Alexander (his real full name) and Baldwin asteroids. His EVC had NN square Hutchings conjunct Baldwin. 16.37 Leo NN 16.14 Taurus Hutchings 14.29 Taurus Baldwin Also 3.04 Cap Pholus 4.47 Aries, transiting Baldwin 4.03 Libra EVC Alexander 5.38 Libra transiting Atropos And 24.11 Gem his natal Baldwin 25.29 Gem EVC Uranus 25.25 Sag EVC Jupiter 25.42 Sag his natal Saturn |
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Post by Ava on Oct 24, 2021 14:32:27 GMT
Wikipedia just published her birthday en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halyna_HutchinsAssuming that's verified, she has Alexander-Baldwin widely opposing Scorpio Uranus, which is exactly conjunct her draconic Chiron:  * His draconic sun @ 12 Virgo conjunct her NN, her draconic sun @ 2 Scorpio conjunct his 1 Scorpio NN (exactly conjunct their comp Saturn @ 1 Scorpio...sun's transiting there now). * Her draconic Jupiter @ 12 Aqua exact on his tropical Mars |
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Post by Ava on Oct 24, 2021 14:48:05 GMT
Her EVC, composite of her noon chart with event. Angles aren't valid but still...EVC sun-SN exactly conjunct transiting stationary Pluto, tightly squaring tr Mars and her EVC Chiron. Weird that she also has that same EVC full moon.  |
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Post by lumina on Oct 24, 2021 14:53:33 GMT
She was born just one day after Lancelot. So basically her transits and all the stuff L had too. STuff like that always weirds me out.
WAsn`t Heath Ledger born around that time, too? Obviously he`s been long dead by now, but just been flashing through my mind.
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Post by Ava on Oct 25, 2021 1:22:27 GMT
Good memory, lumina -- true about Heath Ledger. I'm seriously annoyed I had the time of the incident wrong above. Probably my fault, but could have sworn I saw it was 1:40 pm. Here is the updated chart, just as spooky, if not spookier, considering her EVC sun-SN @ 24 Cap:  |
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Post by Ava on Oct 25, 2021 13:49:06 GMT
Is Mercury still in shadow?
Wikipedia removed her birthday. Maybe it was wrong. This thread might need a total revision.
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