Draconic transits to tropical natal planets

[lumina]

I was just wondering about this, what it means, how it is different from tropical transits..... 

just having had the thought, there must be a nodal spin to the transiting planet, as the Draconic is the nodal chart. 

So for example Tr Draco Neptune conjunct Venus for example. It`s a Neptune(transit) with a mission? Like whatever Neptune is about seems more "specific/ aimed/purposeful"? But the planet in question might "respond" in a very here-and-now-way? (it is the tropical natal after all)


What do you think? Ava? 

[Ava]

lumina

Tr draco sun @ 12 Gem exactly opposes my Neptune today, and tr draco Neptune @ 14.56 Cap Rx is in partile conjunction with my sun.

"Like whatever Neptune is about seems more "specific/ aimed/purposeful"? But the planet in question might "respond" in a very here-and-now-way? (it is the tropical natal after all)"

I've been intermittent fasting more this week and feel light, so that can be a Neptune thing. Also there can be clarity with fasting (hence the Biblical phenomenon of "prayer and fasting," getting the prayers focused on what matters most). So that does resonate with purposeful. And yes, very here-and-now... right now I should be cooking so that is splitting my attention.

What were you thinking about? Tr draco Mercury opp your sun-Mercury now?

[lumina]

r draco sun @ 12 Gem exactly opposes my Neptune today, and tr draco Neptune @ 14.56 Cap Rx is in partile conjunction with my sun."
That sounds really important - I wanted to write impactful. But I am actually not sure how this will manifest directly. Maybe sort of pointing the path ahead and Sun saying: okay, I am doing it now. ?


"I've been intermittent fasting more this week and feel light, so that can be a Neptune thing. Also there can be clarity with fasting (hence the Biblical phenomenon of "prayer and fasting," getting the prayers focused on what matters most). So that does resonate with purposeful. And yes, very here-and-now... right now I should be cooking so that is splitting my attention."
Yes, yes, yes, that is what I have been thinking about. 




"What were you thinking about? Tr draco Mercury opp your sun-Mercury now?"
No actually, you were mentioning Tr Draco NEptune applying to composite Venus, so I looked it up when this would happen, and stumbled across the next time I am going to be at a concert, and by then 

Tr Draco Neptune 16°03 Cap.
tropical c Venus 16°01 Cap.

Well that seemed a tiny little bit TOO close for me not to notice that. 😂

Though I maybe even more payed attention to that will oppose my natal tropical Saturn on 16°57 Cancer as well. 

Not sure, but I just stumbled across some sort of "message" online and I usually don´t listen, but something about that, before the guy even started speaking, just felt the resonance so strongly, before he spoke up. 

What he said was basically: 

"It`s time for you to realize you can swim. You actually always could swim. So it is time now for you to move on. Start swimming. Swim through your fears. Leave that comfort zone. Do that thing. Leave your job. Move houses. If that is what you feel like. Make room for new experiences."


Well not really wanting to leave my job. lol But it made me smile also cause the "swim metaphor" is one I`ve used many many years ago for myself. I just forgot about that thought I had back then. You gotta do the dive into the deep to see if you will drown. And chances are you will find out that you can actually swim. But you`ll never know if you keep standing at the beach. 

Some weird stuff like that, but I guess that is what I resonated with. Also well, just when I heard that I was actually just having the idea to share the Tik tok choir I had been participating in, just a spontaneous idea that moment. Had not thought about it before at all, to share it on fb. But it is a great message, one of union, joining, communing. I like that. Mr Lennon had a point. And someone has to keep up putting the spiritual energy of faith into that idea, right? Balancing out the separative, polarizing energies all around us. 

So why not taking a tiny little part into that.  


Something like that. Interesting. 
Draco Mercury is connecting to my Sun-Mercury today? did not realize that, but I guess that makes sense too. hmm possibly also conjunct my draco progressed Venus? 

[lumina]

Ava

well it`s on its way. 

Tr Draco Mercury 24 Gemini
pr Draco Venus 26 Gemini

oh Tr Draco Sun conjunct my tropical Kaali on 12 Gemini exact. 

Tr Draco Venus actually conjuncts P`s Draco Neptune on 19 Cancer and pr tropical Juno on 18 Cancer, oh well of course more importantly - for me - it is conjunct my tropical pr DESC, also 18 Cancer. That is curious. 

Tr Draco Mars conjuncts my Draco Jupiter on 1 Cancer exact - I REALLY like that

Tr Draco Jupiter exact on P`s tropical NEptune, - time for him to get back to song writing. LOL 



Anyway just been a bit glancing over the chart, it is more for amusement reasons. But I think I like how Tr Draco Mercury is triggering my pr Draco Venus opposite tropical natal Sun-Mercury, might not mean much, but it sure looks pleasant enough. 

[lumina]

Just wanted to check the daily horoscope on rubyslipper blog, and the title for today is "Balance as an antidote".

Isn`t that what I just said?  

[Ava]

Aug 13, 2021 14:58:25 GMT lumina said:

Just wanted to check the daily horoscope on rubyslipper blog, and the title for today is "Balance as an antidote".

Isn`t that what I just said?  

I had a strong thought about balance that morning and I remember the moon was in Libra.

Sorry for getting so far behind here. Busy days in real life.

"Maybe sort of pointing the path ahead and Sun saying: okay, I am doing it now. ?"

Yeah around that time I was enjoying some clear-minded moments...and they always seem to say the same thing: be more clear-minded more often. Which is not typical Neptune, but sun-Neptune must manifest that way sometimes, light piercing through the fog.

"No actually, you were mentioning Tr Draco NEptune applying to composite Venus, so I looked it up when this would happen, and stumbled across the next time I am going to be at a concert, and by then

Tr Draco Neptune 16°03 Cap.
tropical c Venus 16°01 Cap."

My response to that is Unchained Melody.

"And chances are you will find out that you can actually swim. But you`ll never know if you keep standing at the beach. "

Tr draco Cap Neptune opp natal Saturn...does seem like it would inform sensibilities about what is possible, real, doable, attainable, etc.

"But it is a great message, one of union, joining, communing. "

Yeah, making spiritual connections tangible. I love these secular internet choirs, love that you are part of that.

"But I think I like how Tr Draco Mercury is triggering my pr Draco Venus opposite tropical natal Sun-Mercury, might not mean much, but it sure looks pleasant enough."

When I saw the transits the day you started this thread, I thought it was very fitting. Tr draco Gem Mercury opp your Mercury. Yeah let's talk about it.

More in a minute....

[Ava]

Here's the draconic chart for the upcoming full moon, this Sunday, Aug 22nd 8:02 am EST:




Draco Venus exact on my natal Saturn, forming a kite with Juno, Saturn, NN.

Draco moon is exact on my husband's draco sun.

Draco Psyche on my natal Psyche exact, trine Chiron on my Mercury exact, forming grand trine with Priapus.

Draco angles all hitting my tropical Pluto @ 11 Libra.

I kind of hope nothing happens, I am very much into "just chill" mode, deliberately making my days repetitive. But then again I'm open to whatever. Like what else can I do with tr draco Neptune-Pallas on my sun.

[lumina]

Ava

yes, busy days, here, too. So I totally understand. 

Still seems fitting to revitalize the thread right now. Well had a weird thought an hour ago or so, just been musing slightly about "ends",, about things ending" (which they do of course, that was not the weird thought), but then I thought: "But what then? What comes after? What comes after the end?"

Which made me actually almost laugh, cause it`s so paradoxical. I mean, the definition of end is that nothing is coming after I guess? lol Don`T ask me where that came from, just a thought I picked out of thin air it seems. 






"but sun-Neptune must manifest that way sometimes, light piercing through the fog."
Great image, yes, I think it could be like that especially in the Draco - tropical variation. 


"My response to that is Unchained Melody."
LOL Well he seems to have a liking for that song, so who knows? he might sing it. Though nah, not very likely. Not sure this would fit the theme of the concert. 



 I love these secular internet choirs, love that you are part of that.

Yes, me, too. It is even okay to me that I can`t sing, you can`t hear me on it anyway. But that is not what it`s about, I like that you can`t hear individual voices, but just the vocal energy of all of those voices combined. 



When I saw the transits the day you started this thread, I thought it was very fitting. Tr draco Gem Mercury opp your Mercury. Yeah let's talk about it.

True

[lumina]

A fullmoon on the 22nd august. Of all days. Well this used to be such a profound timeframe for me, 21st - 23rd august, esp. the 22nd, so it is kinda funny a fullmoon is going to be there, But I am like you, just in chill mode, but also open to whatever comes my way. 

Anyway seems like a big one for you! Tr Venus on your Saturn, but it is on 00 Leo, that is actually sweet I think, or might be sweetly consolidating. You won`t want to hear my thought, but well, it was there: old love coming back. (In what way ever). 

Well for me that Tr Venus is actually on my tropical Priapus on 00 Leo (and funny enough on composite DESC on 1 Leo adn opposing Draco composite Saturn on 1 Aquarius - and no what i just said does not count for me. This was a feeling strictly tilted into your direction. Besides in my case it is an opposition anyway). 

Well the Draco fullmoon is exactly conjunct his Draco Uranus on 22 Gemini, so I thought that was interesting. Well the last tropical quarter Moon was falling exac ton his tropical Uranus on 23 scorpio, so it seems like there is some Uranian factor at play currently for him. 

Oh that is funny..... 

Tr Eros 12 Libra
his pr Dr Psyche 13 Libra
my Dr Psyche 13 Gemini

it doesn`t mean anything obviously, but I noticed this


his pr Dr Eros 6°02 Scorpio
my pr Dr Psyche 5°47 Cancer

(my natal Dr Eros is on 10 Scorpio, so eventually his is progressing there, but who knows how long that will take? lol)


Tr Psyche 7 GEmini
his Dr Eros 6°58 Libra

[Ava]

lumina

Re: The End

I don't know but Atropos @ 7 Virgo is squaring the true nodes exactly at the moment.

"just the vocal energy of all of those voices combined"

I love it.

"You won`t want to hear my thought, but well, it was there: old love coming back. (In what way ever). "

Maybe an opportunity to raise my vibration, Venus softening my Saturn.

I pulled up the draco chart for the new moon Sept 6th and Venus is @ 20 Leo there, squaring my nodes exactly...actually a LOT will be hitting my 20 Scorpio NN:


 

That Mars trine Pluto...yeah that is something.

"so it seems like there is some Uranian factor at play currently for him."

Right...I think that might be evident in recent photos.

I love the Eros-Psyche contacts even if it's a little on the abstract side (progressed draco).

[lumina]

Ava

"I don't know but At"ropos @ 7 Virgo is squaring the true nodes exactly at the moment."
Interesting, so it means that P must have had Atropos on his NN not too long ago. 
It obviously is squaring my ASC and pr NN at the moment. 


"I pulled up the draco chart for the new moon Sept 6th and Venus is @ 20 Leo there, squaring my nodes exactly...actually a LOT will be hitting my 20 Scorpio NN:"
So Venus is conjunct the composite (tropical) Saturn on 21 Leo, and the pr composite (tropical) Saturn on 19°55 Leo and oppoisng pr composite Mercury on 19°58 Aquarius. 

pr Draco composite Venus is at 22 Leo. 


"That Mars trine Pluto...yeah that is something."
Definitely, with that Pluto on your NN!!

"
ros-Psyche contacts even if it's a little on the abstract side (progressed draco)."
Yes, well DRaco is already a bit abstract, and progressions of course even more so. (abstract in the term of being symbolic charts, though I don´t think that it takes away from their validity, it is just not a chart that is a map of the sky, in visible ways, well progressions actually are, but of course not the DRaconic progressions). 

However, actually I think Draconic charts and progressions, in general (not necessarily Draco progressions, though why not?), go well together, as both deal with some sort of development or unfolding of potential, guide into the future, but manifesting in the Here and Now. It`s just a little tricky to come to very practictal intepretations and predictions; at least I think so. 

[Ava]

Hi lumina

"So Venus is conjunct the composite (tropical) Saturn on 21 Leo, and the pr composite (tropical) Saturn on 19°55 Leo and oppoisng pr composite Mercury on 19°58 Aquarius.
pr Draco composite Venus is at 22 Leo."

Yes. And Venus is square Pluto, so that might be "enlivened" with the new moon energy? (Your respective squares and composite square).

"Definitely, with that Pluto on your NN!!"

Right, and my tropical moon on the draco Mars/Pluto midpoint.

"However, actually I think Draconic charts and progressions, in general (not necessarily Draco progressions, though why not?), go well together, as both deal with some sort of development or unfolding of potential, guide into the future, but manifesting in the Here and Now."

Yes, well said. Though on a regular basis I'm not checking in with my pr draco chart to see what's new. That is something I'd look at if I were on one of my chart-comparing rampages, usually if I've spotted a time in the future where a lot's happening simultaneously. You know. Where there's smoke there's fire.

So I see my pr draco moon's @ 6 Aries now. Automatically that makes me curious about the next "landmark" in my chart, natal Jupiter conjunct natal draco Venus @ 16 Aries. Checking progressions.....I see pr draco moon will be @ 17 Aries in a last quarter phase with pr draco sun @ 17 Cancer next May. Hmmm......

Okay that hits my draco Venus as I said. So then I look around for clues like "What is this last quarter about, relative to Venus?" and fittingly (I guess) tr draco Pluto will be @ 6 Sag then, exact on my natal tropical Venus. Plus tr draco Venus will be conjunct my pr draco Pluto within a degree at the same time (May 19, 2022). Oddly transiting tropical Saturn will be conjunct those.

Icing on the cake is that transiting tropical Venus will be @ 18 Aries that day, conjunct my draco Venus.

Just going to make a note of that time now that I see it.

The most bizarro thing is probably tr tropical Uranus then @ 15 Taurus (SO close to its current degree!) exact on my pr SN. Meanwhile tr draco Uranus will be conjunct my pr draco Uranus. Something weird going on then, but what else is new, in this current reality.

[lumina]

Hey just realized T tropical moon is conjunct my draco progressed Moon. Just a random observation. Lol

[Ava]

Tr draco Chiron conjunct my Aqua Mercury >> speaking out more than usual, saying things I normally would edit out (natal Mercury opp Saturn).

Transiting sun in Virgo applying to my draco MC, too.

For a while now, after observing Virgos (to put it mildly) I've felt they really hate criticizing people much of the time, but feel their remarks are well-intended and maybe even vital for the other person to know, so they accept being seen as jerks, just to get the job done. My best friend's draco sun in Virgo on my draco MC. Years ago she just flat-out told me my hair looked bad, took me shopping for hair products and tools, FORCED me to change my hairstyle, and while that was embarrassing, it was one of the best things anyone ever did for me. Like I never had any hair-confidence before that and now I do.

Pls don't quote, random blather

[lumina]

Yes totally understand that. And I think it can be a really good thing, at least in the long run. The flaw or wound or the thing that is not exactly right must be acknowledged before it can be corrected, improved or healed. And in some instances left behind, when there really is nothing to make better about it.

Hmm is that tr Dr chiron near my composite Asc? Could be.


EDIT:
Nope, it`s too wide. 

just looking at the Draconic chart for Saturday, but nothing really grabs my attention, will be possible a rather boring day. 

Well Tr Draco Mercur on 21 Cancer will be exact on my natal Vertex-Eros on 21 Cancer (far Sun/Moon-mp)

Tr Draco Neptune opposing my Saturn

Tr Draco Uranus conjunct my Ceres


Tr Draco Mars conjunct my pr Saturn, just mentioning it cause, it is the second Draco transiting planet that "attacks" my natal Saturn. 

Shortly before the concert Tr Draco MOon will be conjunct my Jupiter (and trine my pr Saturn) but it will then fade I suppose. 

Oh this one does get my attention Tr Draco Venus conjunct my Draco Chiron on 8-9 Leo.

Ugh too much Saturn and Chiron activation for my taste. But then again it matches my overall feelings about this.