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Post by anela on Nov 7, 2020 20:36:53 GMT
* Delete/Edit You asked why the Dems are accused, it's because of the Clintons/Podestas. I couldn't care less about party politics but as I was saying on another thread, the Dems have that baggage still because the evidence has been strong. As with so many areas of study, most people won't dirty their hands with it. We are conditioned to refrain from investigation. We're called horrible names even by our own friends and family, if we research and discuss our findings. Do you know what it's like having close friends complaining bitterly about conspiracy theorists...and me having to say, "If you feel that way, cut me off" ? Knowing, they never even bother to research anything at all? If there is any proof, it should be investigated, but trump wasn't going to do anything there. He raped a teenage girl, he was friends with Epstein, he walked into the rooms of the teenage girls at his beauty contests, when they were getting changed, and likely not fully clothed. He raped his ex-wife, he's assaulted other women. He tried to use the power of the presidency to get rid of any challengers, and I'm sure that he wouldn't have gone quietly in another four years, if he had won this time. I know your heart is in the right place, and anyone who is guilty should be prosecuted. I just don't like conspiracy theories. Fruityllama, so many people knew about Weinstein, and there were rumours about others, too. I've had to deal with my own crap, I don't take any of that lightly. Right now, I'm relieved. Bye Donald! Bye Stephen Miller! Bye trump crime family!
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Post by anela on Nov 7, 2020 20:38:08 GMT
Both sides of the political spectrum are guilty of cutting ties with family and friends just for having different opinions on politics. On the other side of the Atlantic, here in the UK, it is the leftist followers and establishment that call their opponents horrible names and call for a sort of "culling" of the Tories. I have first hand experience of that, just so you know. Whoever wins, I hope we can all learn from the last four years. Trump didn't cause division, it was the people who decided to take umbridge with absolutely everything from there on out. I can understand why Trump would have caused anger and disbelief but it seems like people just closed their ears and their minds from the get go after that. Everyone has just been spewing into an echo chamber and getting more and more disgruntled. So lets not do that again although I bet no one will. We're going backwards as a society, not forwards. But also, about pizzagate and the Dems being accused of such and such, Biden is a poor choice for trying to get rid of that image as well. As far as I know, he's known as Creepy Uncle Joe is he not? Trump's followers did cause division, and so did he. He has been inciting violence and hatred, since before he was elected. I don't stick to echo chambers, so that's a false accusation right there. I'm going to find a safe way to celebrate now.
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Post by anela on Nov 7, 2020 20:40:04 GMT
Hello, my dears! Congratulations, you guys!!!!!!!!! Now, this is an unusual transit to have, tNeptune conj IC in Biden's chart, what do you think about it? He does have Neptune in the 10th and is heavy Scorpio/12th but still... I am very happy! haha I even went to LL to remember that for us it is like a cycle ending, another one beginning. Sending you all hugs and love! <3 Thank you for celebrating too. <3
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Post by anela on Nov 7, 2020 20:44:18 GMT
ps://www.hcn.org/articles/indigenous-affairs-how-indigenous-voters-swung-the-2020-election
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Post by Ava on Nov 7, 2020 22:20:44 GMT
I know your heart is in the right place, and anyone who is guilty should be prosecuted. I just don't like conspiracy theories. Thank you, and I know your heart's in the right place, too. Stating the obvious, I guess: many conspiracy theories develop around evidence of real crimes that were never tried. The system is too corrupt, and the people cannot come forward, because the retribution is too extreme. Alex Jones *grovelled* before James Alefantis, with his lengthy, nervous apology for implicating him in Pizzagate. A YouTuber who posted a video exposing a secret Alefantis "museum" was directly contacted and threatened. You get the idea... Last night I learned about a billionaire Clinton insider, present at the now famous "playing dominoes on pasta and pizza" party, later accused of brutal sexual assault. He paid out a settlement in exchange for silence (hush money). Several of his top executives went to prison for medical experimentation resulting in death, but somehow he got off the hook. He's given $250 million to Harvard so of course, Harvard loves him. Who CARES if he's corrupt? ( Source) I think the reason people associate Pizzagate with the right-wing and Trump supporters has something to do with QAnon. It's hard to believe that is not COINTELPRO: how do people with such high standards for journalistic truth conveniently overlook all the issues with Trump? Another reason, of course, is that the emails were between Hillary and her circle. And there is just more dirt circulating about them, as it has been from the beginning (drug running/murders in Mena; Vince Foster; other crimes.) artvoice.com/2018/05/19/the-clintons-mena-crimes/Who did Trump have murdered? I'm not asking defensively. I want to know if there are any theories about him.
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Post by Ava on Nov 7, 2020 22:42:00 GMT
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Post by Ava on Nov 7, 2020 22:49:54 GMT
On the other side of the Atlantic, here in the UK, it is the leftist followers and establishment that call their opponents horrible names and call for a sort of "culling" of the Tories. I have first hand experience of that, just so you know. Divide and conquer...united we stand, divided we fall....it's strange how such simple tactics are so effective. That's one reason I enjoy being non-partisan. Anyway, I appreciate your courage in speaking your mind when it's particularly risky. But also, about pizzagate and the Dems being accused of such and such, Biden is a poor choice for trying to get rid of that image as well. As far as I know, he's known as Creepy Uncle Joe is he not? I agree, poor choice, but it doesn't matter, because the people who are concerned have been successfully marginalized/branded alt-right or whatever.
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Post by anela on Nov 8, 2020 9:07:53 GMT
I just want to be happy for a little while. People have been through so much personally, and then all of this as well. I lost my mother, he was elected, got my sister back and lost her again, when I was in the hospital briefly January 2018, it was because I was suicidal. January 9th-10th. So much has happened since then, as well, and I just want to be happy for a bit. I got curry, a mango lassi, and champagne tonight. Dad even celebrated a bit with me, even though he didn't like either of them.
At the end of August, I saw my aunt, and hugged her. A few weeks ago, we were told that she was having trouble walking, and kept falling over. Yesterday, we were told that she's worse. So I cried about that on the way home, too. Dad saw her this morning, and we might visit next week. I see the occasional post about "Democrats need to do this" and "it would have been better if they'd done that" and that is all going to be talked about, and they will be criticized. As I scrolled through twitter, AOC was being criticized - the in-fighting started on Friday. It's just ridiculous. Can't people just have a couple of days to be happy? I remember trump supporters gloating and being nasty. I'm not being mean to people, and I'm not going to be. A friend of mine said she didn't realize just how much of a weight it had been, until today, and now I'm crying again, because it has been. He just wants to let covid stream through all of us, he doesn't care who gets hurt in his name (and he would never accept the responsibility of it). And I occasionally worry that someone might hurt one or both of them (Biden and Harris), before the inauguration, but at any time really. We've had people assassinated before, and I was one of the people who thought anyone who believed we would have another civil war was being dramatic, but there are some who seem to daydream about killing people like me. Steve Bannon wanted people's heads on spikes - he should have been arrested. Fauci already has personal security for his family, because of the people who are riled up. What is with people trying to help us, getting death threats? Trump doesn't care about any of us. He doesn't care about helping anyone, or doing the right thing - only money. That's all that matters.
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Post by midnight on Nov 8, 2020 10:59:47 GMT
I'm so sorry you went through so much anela. I had no idea. I hope you will feel better after this victory. Enjoy your celebration. This topic is very heated and I'm happy to see everyone discussing it with respect and consideration towards each other. Unfortunately, I've seen so much ugly behaviour during this election. One of my friends, who presents herself as "Love, Peace and Bunnies" wishing death to Trump. So many couples split up because of the different political views, people fear to express their opinion. I'm glad this madness is finally over. Only time will tell if it was the right choice.
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Post by Ava on Nov 8, 2020 12:59:13 GMT
I'm also sorry you've had it so bad anela . Hope better days are ahead for you. It's hard for me to understand how people get so emotionally invested in politics when everyone is corrupt...and even if they aren't, their overlords are, and will force their agenda. As I've said on these forums before, I read Naomi Wolf's book The End of America in 2008, as Obama was taking office. I was morose for weeks. It dawned on me that my children need a functional, well-adjusted mother, not a zombie, so I consciously decided to postpone my grieving until the imminent fall took actually place. The Obama years weren't too bad for me (for war victims, that's another story). These Trump years were survivable but extremely challenging. I expect the Biden years will be even worse, not necessarily because of Biden, but the way Agenda 2030 is being implemented. My point is, those were 12 decent years from 2008 until now, years which would have been horrible if I just stayed in End-of-America mode that whole time. I don't really know happiness anymore, because freedom is out the window. I'll never adjust to the surveillance state, surveillance capitalism, the threat of full-blown communism. However, I'm trying to enjoy the current peace, and I wish that for everyone, and hope it lasts somehow, even through all the turbulence. I hope there is always a place of respite and recovery.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 15:00:53 GMT
The UN agenda for 2030 sounds good to me. If that impinges on the US (and other industrialised countries) liberties to live as they prefer which at the same time are unsustainable, then so be it.
The average carbon footprint for a person in the United States is 16 tons, one of the highest rates in the world. Globally, the average is closer to 4 tons.
Basically, it helps to think of it like this. If your civil liberties are harmful to others, then they need to be curtailed. This is not something that needs to be enforced by a police state, but through tax incentives, information, public policy and persuasion. We need to think of ourselves as global citizens, particularly with regard to the environment and climate change - each person's lifestyle will affect others.
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Post by Ava on Nov 8, 2020 16:48:55 GMT
I agree with much of that @astrokeen .
The sustainable development goals look good, but as I said, the implementation is something I do not trust. The corporations only care about stakeholders, and depopulation is obviously a sensitive issue (may tend towards genocide). Well I made a thread about this in sanctuary and fleshed out my concerns there.
Re: The End of America, that wasn't about an end to the American consumerist lifestyle but more about an emerging, draconian police state, which is arguably what we are living under at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 20:22:12 GMT
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Post by glaucus on Dec 12, 2020 21:14:12 GMT
The Electors get together to pick the President of USA this upcoming Monday which happens to be the day of a Total Solar Eclipse that will be in opposition to Trump's Sun-North Lunar Node conjunction and conjunction to Trump's Moon-South Lunar Node conjunction. Trump was born during a Total Lunar Eclipse. The transit doesn't look favorable for him at all. This Total Solar Eclipse involves a conjunction to the South Lunar Node. This is more about letting go. Trump will be forced to let go of his power as President of USA.
The Solar Eclipse conjunct transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varda. Trump currently has his Sun being conjuncted by transiting Varda which was conjunct his Moon with a 2 minute orb applying on Election Day. That is according to the Sidereal Zodiac. With his being in his 70s, there is a one degree difference in the timing of transits between Tropical Zodiac and Sidereal Zodiac. In his natal chart, Trump has Mercury square Varda with a 31 minute orb.
Transiting Pluto will be quincunx Trump's Sun with 19 minute applying orb which is a time to make adjustments involving power which is having to do with letting go of his power. Transiting dwarf planet candidate Sedna has been squaring his Mars, and he's been acting like a victim. The transit is in only a 1 minute applying orb on Electoral College Day. He can play the victim with his Sun sextile Sedna natal aspect with 23 minute orb. Transiting Pluto is aspecting his natal Sun-Sedna aspect in a challenging with transiting Pluto quincunx his Sun and squaring his Sedna.
Sidereal Zodiac with Mesopotamian names using noon time at Washington DC on December 14, 2020
Transiting Sun in 28'08 Gir-tab (Scorpio) Transiting Varda in 28'08 Gir-tab (Scorpio) Transiting Moon in 28'33 Girtab (Scorpio) oppose natal Sun in 28'56 Gu-An-na (Taurus) trine natal Sedna in 28'33 Kun-Mes (Pisces)
Transiting Pluto in 28'37 Pab-il-sag (Sagittarius) square natal Sedna in 28'33 Kun-mes (Pisces) quincunx natal Sun in 28'56 Gu-An-na (Taurus)
Transiting Sedna in 2'48 Gu-An-na (Taurus) R square natal Mars in 2'47 Ur-gu-la (Leo)
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