midlife shift and Solar Arcs

[lumina]

I`ve been researching and reading up on solar arcs quite a bit for the last few weeks, and there is a "midlife- shift" there. For once, between the age of 43 - 47 (well 44 in my case actually), every planet comes to be exactly semisquare itself, and of course this is also true for the progressed Sun as this one is identical to solar arc sun (this way we can also easily deduce a midlife shift in a composite, which was something that crossed my mind just a few hours ago.)

This is called, I believe "accumulated solar arc" and Noel Tyl interpretes it as being "always a time of changing gears, a reorientation", a reevaluation and often requiring adjustments. I personally call it the "Where do we go from here?" aspect. 
It often happens closish to Tr Saturn opposing Saturn and I believe Tr Uranus opposing Uranus. followed by a Chiron Return at age 50 approximately. The prequel to all of this is started with the Pluto square to itself, and Neptune square to itself, which leads up to Uranus opposing uranus and Saturn opposing Saturn, and somewhere in there the accumulated solar arc semisquare happening. 
It`s one of the "life changer" measurements, as Basil Fearrington calls them. 

I do believe that`s true, or maybe more than life-changing, I would say maybe: life-defining? a Crossroads of sorts, which will often bring up the need for decisions, choices in the course of reviewing your past life (what brought you there), and determining (how and where you want to go from there?) though this is often not as clear and concise as we might wish for. Maybe just a vague feeling of "something needs to change", without really knowing what or how. 

I guess it depends a little how you fared so far in life, what experiences you made, which one you missed, how your whole chart is constructed, if those big boy transits are also hitting sensitive spots in your chart,,like the angles, luminaries, Sun/Moon-mp, Venus, Mars, ruler of 7th etc. 




Well I will have to come back to this later. 

EDIT:
I believe that the nodal cycle also plays a tremendously important role in this. in fact it might create the backdrop against which all those aspects are expressing. 

The reverse Nodal Return happens around the age of 46, so it fits very neatly into those oppositions (Saturn, Uranus). the nodal square is sort of opening up the crisis-mode/ or decision process around the age of 42. the nodal return at 37 might be the one opening the bracket. just thoughts. And just wanting to keep in mind that things do not happen in "isolated space", while the accumulated solar arc semisquare is certainly an important occurrence, it is set in the context of these other aspects. 

However the specific quality of it is, as it seems to me, that it is a demarcation line, like a mirror put on that axis, reflecting the past and foreshadowing the future. Like a mathematic parabola. where each point on one side mirrors another one on the other side, not unlike solstic points. 

[lumina]

After this longwinded prequel, what I really wanted to point out is that after the astrological midlife shift, the solar arc aspects repeat, or at least reflect each other. Though when before the midlife shift there was let`s say sa Venus conjunct n Moon, after the midlife shift, it will be sa Moon coming to n Venus (so a switch of the arcing and the natal planet) and the aspect will not be a conjunction but a square, but it will be within the 4th harmonid family. (actually this is true for other aspects too in some way, like a sextile might become a quinkunx, but not quite sure about that yet, however the 4th harmonic aspects and even 8th harmonic ones fit the criteria (of course 45° is the basic 8th harmonic, so that is why). 

This is what Carol Devine wrote on this in her book on solar arcs (a formidable book btw!)

"I noticed that after an increment of 45 degrees solar arc motion, which equals about 45 years of life, the planetary contacts reversed themselves and made the same contacts that were present in the first 45 years, but in reverse order! In other words, if Venus by solar arc direction came to a conjunction with Saturn one year before the 45th degree of solar-arc motion, then one year after that point, Saturn would square Venus. The mathematics of this hypothesis is straightforward. Since all aspects of the fourth harmonic
 harmonic (ninety degree dial) are divisible by 45 degrees, the sequence of planetary aspects by solar arc — as well as midpoint structures affected by them — will march away from 45 degrees with the same precision as that with which they approached it.
...The second contact would probably elicit or evoke the same kind of response in an individual that it did the first time around and activate the same components of the chart, since they still rule and are posited in the same houses natally, triggering the chance to re-live, to bring into a person's consciousness, the same kind of experiences as the first contact and activate the same parts of the chart, thereby giving the person another chance to re-live past experiences under different circumstances and another opportunity to learn from them. Because it is in reverse order, the cause and effect process is clearer. Thus, a whole life plan emerges, giving us greater insight into the events we experience — especially after age 45. Naturally, because of changed life circumstances, one would not expect to see identical events, but surely the essence of the events’ purposes would be there. It is hard to relate to anything without experiencing it. At the time I noticed this phenomenon, I was not yet 45, and didn't feel confident enough to mention it to anyone. Now, after observing it in others and in myself for over a decade, I can see its effects quite clearly. Events are a result of choices we make — choices colored by internal pressures for satisfaction of various desires. The natal chart displays the desire nature, and shows us what the primary motivation for choices will be in differing circumstances. Since these are many and sometimes contradictory, solar arc contacts neatly reveal them in orderly sequence so that we may grow one step at a time. It brings to the surface pressure to fulfill these needs and urges us to make choices. These mathematical directions seem to apply consistently to the houses ruled by those planets making solar arc connections and, secondarily, to the houses they occupy natally. Each choice we make sets into motion natural consequences, and often we don't consider that some recent event was actually the result of a choice we made perhaps years earlier. .."


Devine, Carole. Solar Arc Directions: How to Read Life's Roadmap . Bronwyn Editions. Kindle-Version.


She also gives a few examples where basically the same experience was happening, sometimes with other people involved. In her own example two significant relationships broke up with the Sun-Uranus solar arc (she also uses indirect midpoints, solar arcs to midpoints, just like Noel Tyl does, and I find them to adding a very specific narrative to things happening, but only for a very specific time, like you can finetune them down to the month). 
Another lady had two marriages break up during a Chiron-midheaven direction, along with some other bits there, and someone else receiving a great appreciation and reward under Sun-Jupiter, one before the midlift shift and one when it was "due" once more after it. I find that fascinating. 

I had some own thought about this midlife shift too. but I have to go for lunch, so have to be back for a third time. lol

[lumina]

My thinking was that with very tight orbed 4th harmonic aspects, both mirroring solar arc aspects will happen very close in time (to the midlife shift point and each other). Should they be below 30 minutes of orb, they might even overlap in the time they are most effective (as usually solar arc have a time orb of half a year or 30 minutes), should they be about 1 degree of orb, then they would happen a year before and a year after the shift. 
Should such aspects exist (esp. of the 4th or 8th harmonic), then they might leave a very strong imprint on how we experience that midlift shift, very intensely focused developments occurring then. 

Should there be no such aspects, or wider ones, then the time lapse will be greater, and maybe us having more time to "accodomate to the new conditions"? 

Obviously this depends also on the other big cycles or transits occuring and in what timespan.

[lumina]

In my own case that midlife shift accumulated solar arc happened on february 2019 at the end of the month actually. 

The often called midlife transits (I only noted the times the transit was on the same degree as my natal planet)

Tr Uranus opposing n Uranus: june-july 18; september-october 18; march - april 19
Tr Saturn opposing n Saturn: february 19 - july 19 - september 19

Well I definitely think the august 18 still counted to the timeframe of the Uranus-Uranus-opposition, it basically turned retrograde within partile of my natal Uranus, that is why the first "hit" was that extended edition. 
Also I find it interesting that just at the same month as my midshift solar arc, the first hit of Tr Saturn to natal Saturn happened, and that the last hit of Tr Uranus opposing n Uranus happened just the month after. I mean, the solar arc shift actually happened on 27th february, roundabout, so it was very very very close in time. 

Obviously those transits have a "long time range" and cannot be reduced to the moment they are exact, however if these peak moments happen so close in time to each other, I personally think it is noteworthy. Gives you little breathing space while the hits are raining down on you so to speak. But yes, of course I couldn`t even tell you what they meant; this is something I believe that needs time to unravel itself in the course of the next months and years) 

But maybe those transits are always that exactly pointing to such a short timeframe for everyone? I haven`t really checked other charts. 

I do believe it will be interesting to see what happens, or how I feel, when pr Moon is entering Scorpio and will be conjunct n Uranus on the 11th housecusp. The Uranus-Uranus-opposition has of course broken apart by now, but the results may still be in the making, or becoming visible over time possibly? For me the oppositions happened on the fixed houses axis, with natal Uranus right on 11th house cusp and Tr Uranus in the 5th house, and natal Saturn in 8th house and Tr Saturn in 2nd house.
(of course my pr Moon is being pestered by Transiting Saturn and will be so for a while I fear). 

As for the possible solar arcs happening around that shift, I used one year or one degree orb, though that would open up a span from 2018 - 2020, but i htink that is still okay. I mean midlife is a pretty big thing. lol 

 I am using 8th harmonic aspects as NOel Tyl and some others did/ do , too, and because I noticed something weirdly strong about those seemingly little 8th harmonic aspects (I might be deluded of course and it is pure coincidence and explained by other stronger stuff happening simultaneously that I have not noticed yet)


sa Sun semisquare Mercury: april 2018
sa Mercury semisquare Sun: january 2020
natally: conjunct

sa Mars square Chiron: january 2019 (december 18)
sa Chiron opposite Mars: april 2019 
natally: sesisquare


sa Juno opposite Uranus: july/august 2018
sa Uranus square Juno: october 19
natally: sesisquare
- this one had a bit over 30 minutes orb so just when the first one really faded out, the other one was starting to build up

sa Neptune semisquare mean Node: july/august 18
sa mean Node semisquare Neptune: october 19
natally: Square

sa true Node semisquare Neptune: december 18
sa Neptune semisquare true Node: may 19
natally: square

I do think there is indeed a difference as to which is the arcing planet and which is the natal one, in particular if combining an outer and an inner planet. It is like a transit in this respect, and there is a difference if you have Tr Pluto conjunct Venus or Tr Venus conjunct Pluto. However also it is true that the same symbols are being activated. 

Anyway there is no interpretation on Mars-Chiron and Uranus-Juno, but just quoting the one I looked up in Tyls book on solar arc (just because I am lazy, even though I cannot stop there, obviously it is making a difference that Mercury is the ruler of my DESC, and that Neptune and Jupiter are ruling the 1st and 3rd house respectively and being situated there and in a mutual reception as well as square; uranus rules my 3rd house, too. Mars rules my 4th house; Chiron occupies 4th and Mars 12th house natally, Uranus 11th and Juno 3rd house; Node and Neptune 1st house and Jupiter 3rd house, this would have to be taken into consideration for a real thorough analysis, and just by listing it it seems clear that the 3rd house was very much affected. well my brother had yet another child, so I became an aunt again, plus a lot of thinking/ communication was happening). 

But anyway for lazy me the general meanings were given as: 

Sun - Mercury and vice versa: illumination of intelligence, thoughts, new ideas, common sense
commentary: a week or two before that was exact, I met P after a concert, and in a chat the idea of "a private concert in your livingroom" was being born. Of course we were both just joking, it just came out of the course of a most casual chat-setting, but he picked up that thought later on and well by now it happened twice. lol though not in my living room (I did not offer it ). 

Mercury-Sun: thinking about personality, ego, potential; new ideas
commentary: nothing really big that I can think of, though about 2- 3 weeks before that was exact, I once more met P after a concert, and he asked me almost randomly to "come again" and I told him I would do so "always" - it was also a most casual setting, but well maybe it was because it was just a day after his birthday, or because he was sick or I don`t know, there was a strange intensity creeping into this, this just felt different from the usual polite exchange, it felt in a way "solemn", and when I turned away and went back to keep on chatting with my friends, I just had this feeling of foreboding, like even though I promised, a very long time of separation was awaiting us (just in the sense of not meeting on concerts and plays as often as the year before), though it felt just weird at that time and I shook it off. Well we know now. Maybe it was one of these "promises" that can`t be kept, despite wanting to. 

okay, yes, that WAS big. at least it felt that way. Actually too big for such an aspect, however him and me both had pr Moon square natal Saturn at the same time, even the same day, which was exact about 2 weeks after that last encounter. well I was having the opening and he was having the closing square (which means that of course at that time our composite experienced pr Moon conjunct n Saturn exact), well that seems to reflect that weird somber, solemn, serious athmosphere rather well I think.

Also Moon-Saturn is not a lightweight and frequently can have to do with isolation too. (it can also be about a lot of comitment and dedication of course, but whatever it is, it is not easygoing. lol)


sa Node = Neptune: meeting with others interested in paranormal dimensions (Personally I believe it also has to do with either creative endeavours or social/ charity causes)

timeframe was december 18 for the true node version and october 19 for the mean Node version. 

commentary: both time frames make sense in different ways somehow. Well Neptune rules my intercepted 3rd house, and though I also did cross path with P in both times (both times a concert, in december 2018 he was creating a scene around a song I had brought up, in october 19 we also met after a concert, but this was much more strained, intense and me bringing up something that really bugged me and having a rather honest talk about it with him, and that topic was something very Neptunian). 

In 2018 it also was that I attended a new social setting with someone else, remembering my half forgotten writing I had done years ago, oh and of course the month before it got exact I crossed path with the Italian gentleman Ava



sa Neptune/Node: possible breakdown of relationships, the sense of being out of the group, or bound through spiritual (creative/ caritative?) sharing

Well I definitely had that sense of "being out of the group", and at the same time there was a creative and spiritual/ caritative sharing as a theme. 

[lumina]

Other aspects will of course build and then mirror different aspects that happened some years before, but I was just curious about looking up the phase around the shift, in particular because it coincided in my case soooo closely with the two big midlife oppositions (and real life seems to backed it up.   )

So this phase surrounding the shift was very much bringing up my natal Neptune-NN-conjunction, as well as Sun-Mercury-conjunction, Juno-Uranus-sesisquare (which got way stronger in the solar arcs of course) and the Mars-Chiron-sesisquare (also getting real strong, and actually that Mars-Chiron was happening so close before the exact shift and afterwards, that it seems to have been one few months long phase, instead of two separated ones. 

Well I also wanted to look up the indirect solar arcs which were happening around the shift, some months prior, some months later, cause usually they seem to depict a development of a more specific nature and also sometimes are a good explaining for moodshifts. lol (I am only using mean Node for this though)

In my case: 

sa Mercury= Pluto /Node april 18
sa Neptune = Jupiter/ASC april 18
- thinking big, hearing the grass grow, intellectual dominance
- living with hope and speculation, dreaming, projecting the niceness of things, not admitting the adverse

(yes it wasn`t easy to keep a realistic view on things)


sa MC= Uranus/ASC may 18
Sa Uranus = Sun/Mars may 18
- major change potential, most likely in job status; with the parents or through the spouse`s job or family
- high excitability, intense reflex-actions, impulse, sudden events and forceful adjustment of new circumstances



sa Venus = Uranus/Node july 18

- sudden attachments, romantic or just likeminded, the cameraderie is what is important (well I beg to differ on the interpretation a little, I mean venus and Uranus to the connecting Nodes. lol) 

- this was when the fanmeeting happened and I had been pushed into some collaboration with P on that, in respect to some charity thing which led to some other projects over this year, oh and obviously I had a good time that year, thoug it was a a little much surprises, excitement (but what do you expect, when a timespan is dominated by Uranus like that?)


sa Venus = Uranus/Neptune august 18
sa ASC = Sun/Moon: august 2018
sa Mercury = Neptune/Pluto august 18

- high sensitivity, fantasy life, revelling in love
- openness to others; feeling secure (to connect)
- preoccupation with out of the world thoughts and experiences; communications are other than what they appear; (well they appeared completely platonic to me); deception as a strategy; nervous irratibility, possibly loss of centering. 

Well also Neptune/Pluto is known as the "paranormal midpoint" or the spiritual one, and Mercury rules my DESC, of course they still keep their symbolism, and there is ALWAYS something vague and not quite tangible about Neptune. 



WEll so far, I just mean to say I really really love it when looking up astrological cookbook meanings (which should not even be worth anything) is like reading up on the storyline of that time so exactly, I mean this is capturing the essence of that athmosphere so well, it is just, well it is breathtaking if astrology is like that. (of course this doesn`t make life easier, so much vague subtle innuendo. lol)


sa Uranus = Mercury/ASC october 18
- impetuous opinionation can irk others; being critical 

Yes I was critical and yes I irked others, well Uranus rules my 3rd house, so all the more of it. lol And I guess I was pretty clearly communicating albeit maybe impulsively and surprisingly so (Uranus, ruler 3rd in my 11th house natally) who I wanted to be in my life (ASC) and in close (ruler of DESC) communication (Mercury) to me (ASC). yeah sometimes astrology IS that easy. 



sa Node = Jupiter/ASC nov/ dec 18
needing to be with others, also for their support and appreciation of who one is

- and I had that. It was a great time actually, on several layers. 

sa Mars = Uranus/Pluto march 19 (during the actual shift-moment this one was just 3 minutes applying, and Uranus/Pluto is a big midpoint anyway)
enormous energy, fanaticism is possible, possible coercion

(True. In some ways I was very energized and VERY VERY angry and compulsively wanting to have things my way and no other, which seldom works out. lol in other ways I was compelled to communicate with people I usually would never have dreamed of changing a word with. well there was the ruler of my 3rd house again in a midpoint with ruler of 11th and 12th house, so I guess it makes sense with the communication)



sa Uranus = Sun/ASC april 19
intensification of self-image, pushy behaviour, upsets

well Personally I think there are also some more positive interpreations with that, which applied here, but yes, I admit that those two months I was being a little impatient with others. lol



sa MC = Uranus/Node june/July 19
sa Neptune = Jupiter/Node june / july 19
sa Jupiter = Moon/Venus july/ august 19

- teamwork paying off, professional recognition (my own interpretation contains also something with surprising meetings/ connections in and with the public)

- lack of clarity, sharing the spirit with others but not much else, especially in the way of grounding (yeah well does it count if someone tells you to "not jump" off a wall/ cliff. Which definitely implies an absence of grounding. lol literal interpretation of course)

- good luck, lots of good feelings, feeling loved

(my niece was being born the day this was darn exact - and other stuff happened that day too)




sa MC= Uranus/Neptune october 19
supernatural concerns come into play, guidance is sought from other realms or never before tapped sources

- also I personally think Uranus/Neptune is a tad weird, like not particularly grounded or adhering to some kind of status quo, and iwht MC something of it being brought into the open 

(I actually was talking to P about him being coming across as vague and misleading and absent and weird in his public presentation  - well he told me to tell him, so I did; actually I feel this has improved (to my taste), well maybe I just adjusted or stopped caring about it, but it seems to me it is clearer now who is doing the communicating on his social media for the public, his assistant or he himself. It`s not really a big deal, but it irked me. and it got to a point, where I started to get really annoyed.)



sa Uranus = Mercury/Node dec 19
stimulating ideas shared, sudden buisness contacts 

and some more Uranus involvement. lol



Well those were the months around my midlife-shift in an astrological sense. Of course midlife shift is not over yet, and there will be other aspect brought up, but just a feeling that it`s pretty much done, that phase is ending (spring 2018 - spring 2020)

Curious what is up next in my life. though judging by the heaviness of the last months, maybe I do not even want to know (but then again this SAturn-MOon-progressed square was really no joy, and after having been through so many Saturn-transits of the harsh kind, I guess I am just tired of all of this)

[lumina]

I am curious now.... 

so the next stepping stone (and frame of reference I suppose) will be pr Moon entering Scorpio and then conjunct n Uranus on 11th house cusp in december 2020 and january 2021. 

With Tr Saturn still chasing my pr Moon and bestowing it with a square, which will be going on for quite some time, but the exact hits will be: 

- 30th/ 31st august: 26°01 Libra - Capricorn
- 19th december 20: 00°11 Scorpio - Aquarius
- 16th august 21: 09°06 Scorpio - Aquarius
- 29th january 22: 15°13 Scorpio - Aquarius
- 11th august 22: 22°12 Scorpio - Aquarius
- 2nd march 23: 29°24 SCorpio - Aquarius
- 11th august 23: 05°02 Sagittarius - Pisces
- 26th march 24: 12°55 Sag - Pisces
- 15th august 24: 17°47 Sag - Pisces
- 13th april 25: 25°56 Sag - Pisces (with my natal Sun on 25°56 Sag too)
- 25th august 25: 00°27 Cap - Aries
- 26th april 26: 08°35 Cap - Aries
- 29th september 27: 25°49 Cap - Aries
- 7th may 28: 03°02 Aqua - Taurus
- 22nd october 28: 8°34 Aqua - Taurus

well I am getting tired of checking those, so I will stop just here, but suffice to say, this is going to be accompanying my life for the next decade and longer. 


Well apart from that always returning pain in the butt, I am going to have pr Sun square pr Moon on 13°48 Aqua-Scorpio on 22nd december 2021, making a pythagorean triangle with pr Saturn on 13°17 Cancer. 

(well at least this will be atrine between pr MOon and pr Saturn, and well clearly a quinkunx between pr Sun and pr Saturn, and clearly I am not looking forward to it. lol)


But anyway, so I guess with that closing progressed solunar square, this might be the time reference for the next phase. from now until the beginning of 2022. 



- 

[Ava]

Wow that's comprehensive.

I'm already tipping towards amnesia or "senior brain" mentality where I don't even really want to remember what's been going on, so I definitely am not up for dissecting time the way you have lumina, but bravo for the thoroughness there. 

Yeah I went through tr Uranus opp Uranus, I think I may have yet another pass...checking the ephemeris. Nope, I'm technically done, HOWEVER

6.35 Scorpio, natal Uranus
6.45 Taurus Rx, my SR Uranus for 2021

That's gotta be forecasting thunder at least. 

Fortunately by then, tr Saturn opp natal Saturn is over. Because Saturn just zooms into Aquarius in 2021. 

Anyway, tangled up in this midlife-issues knot, on my birthday next year:

0 Leo, natal Saturn
1 Leo, SA Mars

16 Gemini, natal Mars
16 Virgo, SA Saturn

(19 Gem, SR NN conjunct my pr Mars exactly)

Maybe SA Saturn trine my sun is going to give me a renewed strength of purpose. Well I definitely feel like life is what you make of it, regardless of the political turbulence and insanity, and considering how things are coming unglued globally....I guess it's cool I have Mars-Saturn in focus. Like, bite the bullet, buckle down and deal with it.  

[lumina]

Ava

thanks for "playing".  




" so I definitely am not up for dissecting time"
I did to come to a conclusion what those things mean and how they "work together".



"6.35 Scorpio, natal Uranus

6.45 Taurus Rx, my SR Uranus for 2021
"
Wow! So you will get a "crystallized (for a year) pass of Uranus-Uranus". 
I remember I was having only one hit of Tr Saturn square Pluto, but it occurred on my birthday and was written into my Solar Return that year (end of 2018, covering 2019), and definitely felt that one much more than a one-hit-wonder (or nightmare, depending on the perspective, but Saturn-Pluto certainly is not something very fun)


"Fortunately by then, tr Saturn opp natal Saturn is over. Because Saturn just zooms into Aquarius in 2021.
"
Yeah, that one was.... exhausting. Somehow challenging Saturn-transits seem to be even more exhausting to me than challenging Pluto-transits, but I do not want to challenge the universe, just noticing that Saturn feels soooooo heavy. well Pluto is heavy too, but not so stuffy somehow.




Anyway, tangled up in this midlife-issues knot, on my birthday next year:



0 Leo, natal Saturn

1 Leo, SA Mars



16 Gemini, natal Mars

16 Virgo, SA Saturn
"

Wow, a Mars-Saturn occuring simultaneously, well at least you will be done with it in  almost one go (the sa Mars to Saturn will occur possibly a couple of months before your birthday, or let`s put it this way, make itself felt in a bigger way). LOL I had the same happening with Mars-Chiron. 


"Maybe SA Saturn trine my sun is going to give me a renewed strength of purpose"
I keep my fingers crossed for that to happen, it surely looks like it could add resilience and strength. While the harmonious aspects are often not used for solar arc predictions, because they are not "event-oriented", I think they add a subtle flow and harmony, and with some major events you really really need some cushion of sanity!

This is what this trine could be, bringing balance, purpose, especially as Saturn disposits your Sun and Sun disposits your Saturn and is your chartruler. It probably will have a lot to do with expressing your individuality and personality but doing so in a non-threatening way to others. 



". Well I definitely feel like life is what you make of it,"
Yes, absolutely. At least to a certain degree.

"lobally....I guess it's cool I have Mars-Saturn in focus. Like, bite the bullet, buckle down and deal with it."
Spoken like a true Capricorn. lol . 

Well it is a great perspective on these aspects, and it`s the only way to handle them. I think so. 

Well I am going to have sa Saturn square Mars in 2022, and I am definitely not looking forward to it, and it will jsut be the beginning, in the following 5  to 6 years sa Saturn is going to square ASC, NN and Neptune as well and opposping Jupiter. 

I already had sa Mars opposing Saturn in 2015. It was actually just 9 minutes applying when P got married.
Well I know that people say this one has a 30 minutes orb, but honestly I seem to observe a lot that events happen around the time it becomes exact (I`d say round about 10 minutes of orb applying, which is about 2 months before exactness, and the month of and after exactness we experience the aftermath). 

Obviously these events are just an actualization of a longer lasting develpment, which probably is what the 30 minutes orb is really about. the development taking place, gaining momentum and then when it gets really close to exactness some event associated with and expressing this development takes place. 
 
I wouldn´t want to make this a rule however, maybe it is just that case in my chart. lol 

Also usually there are partile big boy aspects happening in the transits, often enough to the direction itself (this would be a pretty clear indicator of something might happen then), sometimes just to important natal planets. 

Well my Mars-Saturn-opposition was actually absolutely exact on christmas day, and that was the day my brother and his now wife were telling us they were expecting their first child. 

During those 2 months Tr Uranus was squaring my Saturn (and directed Mars). Tr Neptune was squaring my ASC exact, too. Tr NN (mean) was squaring my Sun and Mercury (brother) exact and being on my Draco DESC, actually when P got married, there was a transiting Venus-Mars-conjunction going over it, though back then the transiting nodal axis was having a bit more orb. Tr Chiron was conjunct my Juno (trine my Saturn). Tr Saturn was conjunct my Neptune and NN: 


So there was a lot going on anyway. 

Well after the solar arc Saturn square Mars happens in 2 years, about a year after that solar arc Saturn will trine my Venus. don`t expect this to be very strong, or eventoriented, but hoping that it might help ease the direction a little. and possibly give some cushion to deal with the coming ones after that. lol 


On the other hand some people get married under dynamic Saturn-arcs, or they die (well they die under Jupiter-arcs too,s o that is not a good example. lol People die under all kinds of transits and progressions and solar arcs. ).

Basically I think it probably means that something will stand out about such a time frame, but how it will exactly be like, I am not good enough to predict. Could be the worst of times, or actually constructive. to a part up to me working in either direction (and of cours the other transits, progressions and indirect arc might indicate a tendency). 

Well this is going to happen about half a year I think, after I have sa Moon = IC and a bit before, if I not mistaken, Moon= Venus (and hopefully long before Moon = Pluto), well I do have some rather dreadful scenarios inmy head seeing Moon and IC and the ruler of 4th and 10th house and the 10th house planet being activated like that, but we made it rather okay through sa Pluto square my natal Moon, so just hoping for the best. and well it could also be just emotional and nice I suppose. 

[Ava]

Sorry for my late reply lumina. My astrology brain is not all there.

Actually my SA Mercury conjunct tr Neptune in Pisces...

20.18 Pisces SA Mercury
20.11 tr Pisces Neptune, Rx

^^ Spaced out

Anyway...tr Chiron was conjunct your Juno when P got married? How did I miss that? And the Mars-Saturn opposition looks frustrating. Well I'm experiencing SA Mars conjunct natal Saturn as literal lockdown. But I guess it's not always bad...can be strengthening.

SA moon on natal IC, do you dread that just because you're an Aqua moon and feel squeamish about all the emotions there?

Well, as you said, it's better if Pluto is not in the picture. Hoping for the best for you, too.

[lumina]

Ava

quite a Transit! Also might echo smething back from 1999/ 2000 when it was happening to the natal Mercury?

Yes, Tr Chiron on Juno; Tr Jupiter opposite Juno exact. Tr Saturn conjunct Mars exact. Tr Neptune square ASC exact.

lockdown for Mars-Saturn is just soo literal, isn´t it? BTW your sa Mars-n Saturn is already out of orb, however your sa Saturn- n Mars is closely applying, there probably was an overlap time between both of these, and possibly this overlap time was covering the beginning of that lockdown period?


no, not because of the feelings, I dread it because of it involving the IC, and then sa Saturn starting to apply to square Mars, ruler of my IC, and because my parents are entering their 70`s and I am ALWAYS worrying something might happen to them or other members of the family.

Of course this can mean something totally different, some people just experience a restructure of their homes, a new start (actually I read some astrologers refer to solar arc planets coming to the IC as meaning "a new start"), a change in status (some might get married, some divorced, some might just experience a move, and some possibly something totally different).
to get a feel for how that big change and restructuring will take place, I would need to look into the transits and the indirect arcs possibly.

Anyway after that sa Moon will square Venus, and of course I had some years ago sa Venus conjunct Moon (march 2015) and sa MC square Moon (may 2016) before. It covered the period the mother of my best friend died, but also the period of a lot activity here, me being pushed into things somehow, like having to organize a theatre play (with two local actors from here), organizing a classtrip, which was VERY challenging,b ut also I have good memories, the Bretagne is beautiful. lol But being pushed to "step up my game" in ways that I definitely felt were overwhelming, and of course the first fanmeeting in summer 15, and then in may / june 2016 was that memorable meeting with P. lol followed by a blow up on fb and the creation of a certian podcast, and at the end of the year the first workshop, but in between strewn in death, loss and emotional pain and maybe more so emotional responsibility for others in pain. But also the experience of greatest joy with the birth of my nephew in august 2016 (and curiously both births, of my nephew and niece, P was around in some way or another, it just somehow interconnected him and my family in my memory, that cannot be separated from each other anymore).

So whatever it was, it was intense.

However there might be differences of course, after all it is sa Moon coming to conjunct my IC and back then it was sa MC squaring my Moon, stuff like that.

Also, in may 2015 I was having my progressed Fullmoon from 7 Aqua- Leo.

At the end of 2021 when sa Moon conjuncts my IC exact, I will have my progressed last quarter Moon from 13 Aqua - Scorpio. Exact time overlap.

[lumina]

Well, transitwise does not seem too much on in 2021, except for transits of the Node:

Tr Node square Jupiter: may 21
Tr Node opposite Neptune: june 21
Tr Node opposite Node: june 21 (27th june to be exact)
- so an important step in the nodal cycle Tr NN on my SN

Tr Node conjunct DESC: august 21 (12th - 13rd exact, in this week it will also conjunct my Draco Moon)

Tr Node opposite Mars: september 21

no major Pluto transits (did not check for semisquares/ sesisquares), no major Neptune transits (except Tr Neptune squaring Venus/Mars-mp,n ot sure how important that is, but I noticed it, because P is going to have Tr Neptune square n Neptune the same time exactly, well it already started for him; in march, november, december in 2021)

no major Uranus transits (though I think he might be sesisquare my Sun and Mercury; in april/ may I think; well I must have one of those this year too)

no major Saturn transits (except he will be semisquare my Sun and MErcury in march, july and december, which is interesting considering my solar arc Moon conjuncts my IC and my pr Moon squares my pr Sun exactly in december)


Tr Jupiter will also semisquare Sun and Mercury but doing so in february 2021

and Tr Jupiter will conjunct Moon in march 2021

But basically that is really it the BIG transits of 2021, excluding 8thharmonic ones), Tr Jupiter conjunct Moon and Tr Node conjunct my SN and DESC.

Of course the picture changes in 2022. and well december 2021 is almost 2022, so maybe in this instance the separating timeframe will be more important, also the sa SAturn square Mars will be exact in late april 2022, so seems that the timeframe between december 2021 and april 2022 (with a bit before and after) might be interesting to observe.

Of course after that the next thing is already on the horizon and building. lol

Transitwise in 2022 I will have

Tr Node square Moon: August 2022

Tr Neptune square Mercury and Sun in may and june 2022 and then getting stationary retro there, it will last approxmiately from may (for Mercury) and June (Sun) to end of july, because it is just a first "taste" for my Sun, it then goes retro and withdraws, but will probably pester me all 2024 long with close hits.

But well it might not be as challenging as possibly for P, after all I have only Sun and MErcury on 25 mutable (Sag), he has ASC on 25 Pisces, Sun on 26 Sag and Saturn on 26 Virgo and Moon and MC at 28 Sag - so for him all angles and the luminaries are going to be hit all at once, or within short timeframe (even his VErtex is on 28 Virgo), well when he is going to hit, he is really pummelled by the transits.

And he is going to have to enjoy a whole year of Tr Pluto conjunct his Venus pretty much exact anyway, and opposing his Juno a bit later then of course. The next years might be rather erm transformative (let`s hope the constructive way, but we all know how Pluto operates *sighs* )

But anyway I am pretty much Pluto-free, except of course the semisquares to my Neptune and Node and Jupiter. (his Venus is conjunct my Jupiter/Node and Jupiter/Neptune and Moon/Venus very closely, so if his Venus is going to get hit, so are these midpoints in my chart and in the case of Jupiter/Node and Jupiter/Neptune Tr Pluto will dissect my natal square)


Tr Uranus squares my Moon in june and november 2022
Tr Saturn conjunct my Moon in february 2022

interestingly Tr Saturn will hit my Moon only once this time, which surprises me, usually Saturn tries to really hit my planets over and over again. But even though, of course in 2022 there will be a transiting SAturn-Uranus-square and it targets my Moon

It also, I mean it is MOON, I am already having the IC-involvement through sa Moon conjunct IC and sa Saturn square Mars as ruler of IC.

pr Tr Jupiter square my Mars and ASC in january 2022
squares my Neptune and Node in february
and also in february it conjuncts itself, so on 18th february I am going to have my Jupiter-Return

it will square my Sun and Mercury in april
- which is curious, the sa SAturn = Mars looks like hard work, but unlike the former variaton of sa Mars = Saturn, this seems to be accompanied by more constructive transits, even in a square Tr Jupiter is usually more of a rewarding nature, (unless being put down by too heavy other transits like Pluto or Neptune or Saturn; in 2015 I was having those Saturn and Neptune heavy transits with Tr Pluto being opposite my pr Saturn and buildung up to the opposition to n Saturn the year after that, the transits do look a bit different here, albeit still challenging and dynamic of course)


Tr Jupiter conjunct IC and then square Venus and also trine Mars in june 2022 and again in september 2022 and due to retrogradation it will come back in 2023
(also I just see I will have had my Mars-Return in december 21, of course this happens every 2 years, then it will be accompanied by the progressed quarter Moon and Moon-IC-direction).


Whatever that means, it seems like an important timeframe, possibly a mix of positive and negative, but except for the Neptune-transit it does not look as bleak and dark as my last transit years. lol

[Ava]

Hi lumina

"quite a Transit! Also might echo smething back from 1999/ 2000 when it was happening to the natal Mercury?"

I was worried about Y2K and the possibility of widespread havoc and disruption. Basically back then I was focused on the fragility of society, over-reliance on technology, breakdowns. It's happening more now than it did back then.

Just realized this is the first time my moon had a conjunction from a solar arc planet. It will only have two, one from Mercury and one from my sun if I live long enough (about 17 years from now). Well SA Mercury to natal moon really blew my mind.

18.12 Pisces, natal moon
18.11 Pisces, SA Mercury when my ex contacted me the first time...something I believed would never happen
18.27 Pisces, his pr draconic Mercury then (nodal chart birth time)

"Yes, Tr Chiron on Juno; Tr Jupiter opposite Juno exact. Tr Saturn conjunct Mars exact. Tr Neptune square ASC exact."

Wow

"lockdown for Mars-Saturn is just soo literal, isn´t it? BTW your sa Mars-n Saturn is already out of orb, however your sa Saturn- n Mars is closely applying, there probably was an overlap time between both of these, and possibly this overlap time was covering the beginning of that lockdown period?"

0.36 Leo, natal Saturn (Rx)
0.34 Leo, SA Mars when my niece passed

On my birthday about 6 weeks later, SA Mars was @ 0.41 Leo. Really did not enjoy this birthday. Then in February, I took on a new position at work which is much more boring than the previous position and asked my ex to break contact. Two decisions that made life less interesting but more sane and stable. In March, when lockdown went into effect, SA Mars @ 0.53 Leo, probably out of orb, but SA Saturn applying to a square with natal Mars as you said.

I've been having these hits of transiting Pluto and transiting Cap planets on my SA Venus and Neptune for a while now. In October, both my SA Venus and tr Pluto will be @ 22 Cap, but I don't know if they're in orb for conjunction. The issue is that Pluto will be stationary direct there @ 22 Cap, bearing down on Venus, and I really just don't want to deal with it.

At the same time, tr true SN @ 22 Sag will be exactly conjunct my SA Uranus. Geez.



I'm gonna die if you touch me one more time
Well I guess that I'm gonna die no matter what

"..no, not because of the feelings, I dread it because of it involving the IC, and then sa Saturn starting to apply to square Mars, ruler of my IC, and because my parents are entering their 70`s and I am ALWAYS worrying something might happen to them or other members of the family."

I see.

Hopefully that is not such a bad indicator, though. And your parents seem to be in good health. And it seems Germans tend to live a long time. All good wishes <3

"Of course this can mean something totally different, some people just experience a restructure of their homes, a new start (actually I read some astrologers refer to solar arc planets coming to the IC as meaning "a new start"),"

Let's see, I had SA Pluto @ 26.53 Libra when my mother died. My chart is rectified so the IC is 26.06 Libra.

If I live another 40 years I'll have SA Saturn conjunct natal IC. Those are the only two conjunctions to natal IC possible in my lifetime.

"Anyway after that sa Moon will square Venus, and of course I had some years ago sa Venus conjunct Moon (march 2015) and sa MC square Moon (may 2016) before. It covered the period the mother of my best friend died, but also the period of a lot activity here, me being pushed into things somehow,"

Very interesting.

"So whatever it was, it was intense."

Looking at solar arcs for intense periods of my life. I already mentioned SA Pluto on natal IC.

Well my SA sun was on natal sun/moon midpoint when my father died, conjunct tr Neptune, but the orbs are too loose for solar arcs.

16.59 Aqua, natal sun/moon mp
17.19 Aqua, SA sun
18.19 Aqua, tr Neptune

SA Neptune @ 14 Cap when he died so I was processing this with SA Neptune conjunct my sun. I had tr Neptune conjunct my sun in the months following my mother's death, too.

"Also, in may 2015 I was having my progressed Fullmoon from 7 Aqua- Leo."

Wow, I had a progressed full moon around there. Well, April 2000, 10.30 Aqua/Leo.

In draconic, that was @ 22 Gem (sun), on my natal Vertex axis if my chart is right. My husband's natal draco sun is @ 22 Sag, so my pr draco full moon was exactly conjunct my new husband's draco sun. I want to applaud that for its textbook correctness. lol

"At the end of 2021 when sa Moon conjuncts my IC exact, I will have my progressed last quarter Moon from 13 Aqua - Scorpio. Exact time overlap."

Hmmm, that is interesting. I can see more clearly now how that might be stressful, now that I'm fresh out of concentrating on SAs and how they function. I didn't want to do the whole timeline thing but I think it's the only way for me to really see.

[lumina]

just wanting to reread that, to re-member knowledge I apparently already have had and sort of forgotten until now.