Ava"I guess it's a matter of phrasing."
Yes, I think it is.
"To me, that sensation of being in love is a kind of euphoria, based on hope. There wasn't much to hope for. I was happy and adored him but it wasn't...something with a future.
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Interestingly just yesterday I was reading an article about the differing of passionate love and companionate/ compassionate love.
stylesofloveJust leaving this here, cause it makes my astrological senses itch to try to find a planetary categorization tool for this. lol
I also agree with the "influencing factors" described in the article. especially "timing" is important. Which is why I think we probably cannot judge a synastry or composite, especially the progressed version, without taking the individual progressions/ transits into account, and how it triggeres each natal. And then probably something more I am not yet aware of.
"Wow. Yes, looks kinda fated. And Mars is great for getting things started.
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The timing was right, definitely. And yes about Mars, he seems to be almost always there performing a trigger-function, no matter what it is. especially. when we are talking about starting things, ending things, events, developments that can be seen from the outside as well, so when it comes to manifestation and expression in the outside world. Obviously they did not decide on the drop of a hat that they were going to embark into an official relationship. this was just the moment a development was made visible (literally, as it was done over facebook. lol), and at the same time it functioned as initiating a new phase, in this instance it seems fitting that this was around the beginning of when the Venus-Mars-trine comes into orb. Well while I notice that most "events" seem to happen in the peakphase (approximately 15 minutes applying and separating, totally arbitrarily chosen, though some astrologers mentioned that as well. lol But the external manifestation very often really comes with these tight orbs, which I find interesting. of course there has to be a transit trigger as well), but anyway why that seems to really be a peak-moment in progressions (which can actually sometimes last several months), I also seem to notice that around the time the progressions crosses the 1° orb and applies, it is like literally crossing some sort of line, and something starts to form, maybe just emotionally/ mentally at first, but something changes, comes into more of a focus, but most often that is followed by a relatively quiet/ calm phase, until the aspect applies to a greater closeness. Just my observations of course).
But yes anyway, Mars is a good starter.
"But that didn't exactly work, so the very, very last time we talked, my pr moon was @ 2 Scorpio within minutes of his pr sun.
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Well I know you see it differently than I do, but you didn`t really part ways. You just agreed on a pause to give each other time to reorient, heal certain things, develop in some ways you need to do for your individual growth and obviously have to do it while not be in too close contact. But you will meet again and find a new way of connecting.
Heck, you already did. You layed the past to rest, but you both have to somehow process that you did. And realign.
So I think it is fitting the pr Moon on his pr Sun, and it is so beautiful it makes me almost cry. lol Actually this is conjunct my pr Uranus on 2°28 Scorpio.
Anyway you started something new there. But like at New Moon the Moon cannot be seen yet, you cannot really seen what exactly that new is going to be, but the seed has been layed and will show itself later on. When your pr Moon will be semisquare his pr Sun, that is when the crescent phase starts, and the Moon becomes visible again.
This "crescent phase" starts in mid september 2023, when your pr Moon will be on 20 Sag, so you will probably see by then what that seed you both planted really is striving to become, latest by then. Of course there will be some things happen in between now and then. But I would keep a mental note of that year, there might be something illuminating happen there.
Also your pr Suns will be trine each other, your pr ASC-DESC moving towards your synastric fullmoon, though this might happen 3-4 years after that.
your pr composite will have Uranus exactly on the ASC, well using his noon chart of course.
it will also have a New Moon, using his noon chart pr composite Moon on 5Cap just separating from pr composite Sun on 4 Cap and applying to pr composite Venus on 7 Cap, even if this might not happen in september (depending on his birthdate), it must happen somewhen in between june-to december that year approximately (as pr composite MOon can only differ about approximately 3 degrees from that noon-position)
Actually using the date of 15th september (arbitrarily, but that is the month your pr Moon will be exactly semisquare his pr Sun, so not totally arbitrarily
), I see there is a New Moon on 21 Virgo. Just saying.
No matter how exactly that will play out, seems like a significant timeframe.
"It would have been stranger if he wasn't."
Paul Westran calls progressions: "Windows of opportunity", I think that fits.
My window of opportunity of seeing Jude Law on stage started to open when his pr Moon-Mercury was exactly conjunct my pr Mercury-Venus, all on 19 Aquarius, for the first time I saw him on stage. Curiously on my natal Atropos.
If you want the exact figures
his pr Mercury 19°14 Aqua
my pr Venus 19°31 Aqua
my pr Mercury 19°34 Aqua
his pr Moon 19°59 Aqua
Those days Tr Mercury was on 17-19 Leo. Well the Mercury-factor makes sense for seeing acting in action. lol
Tr NN was on 0°00 Aquarius, Tr Pluto on 1 Cap on our composite Sun (Tr Pluto seems to often be on composite Sun at those occasions of first time seeing.) Well Tr Pluto was also opposing c Saturn on 1 Cancer, so there is that. lol
Also pr composite had a triple conjunction of Juno (7 Aqua), Sun (8 Aqua), Venus (9 Aqua), but the Sun-Venus was over 1 degree, the Juno-Sun was under 1 degree, but Juno is moving relatively slow, so it was really not close to any kind of peak moment, but it was there, and he did an impressive job. LOL
But yeah, window of opportunity it was.
and the next 3 times as well. lol
I wonder if I might be going to see him again on stage some day. Obviously not around THIS time though.
And it could be that this window has closed for good, I haven`t really been checking.
Window of opportunity does not always mean "riding off into the sunset together", I think we have to be more broad minded than that. NOt every Sun-Venus-conjunction means the romance of a lifetime (though very often it does), sometimes it is just cooperation, agreement, harmony, sympathy etc.
I do tend to think it brings good feelings of admiration, liking, affection though.
"Conjunct tr Neptune @ 27 Pisces (just checked). Disney princess.
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For some reason I had used the date of mid july 2024 (probably cause I am lazy and did not want to change the date. lol)
And by then Tr Neptune will be on 29 Pisces exact on that conjunction I think.
Also they will have pr composite Mars on 25 Cancer squaring pr composite Saturn on 25 Libra, affecting his natal Venus on 25 Capricorn.
Oh and with a Noon time for her pr Moon will be on 25 Libra setting off that configuration. Even if not in july, this will happen somewhen from april to october that year I think. their pr composite Mars-Saturn square will be quite a lasting one and then becoming a pr Mars-Pluto-square, so they probably will need all the understanding and sympathy the Sun-Venus could bring them.
AS of now they have pr Venus quinkunx pr SAturn (and a starting pr Sun quinkunx pr Saturn), and that Venus-Saturn was gliding into the "hot phase", exactly the month the shit hit the fan, I mean the financial cushions breaking all away, of which the Corona desaster is just a culmination point, but there has been going a lot more really awry. Definitely a lot of adaption to circumstances was asked of them, and well she was away for some time in winter, so the isolation-factor in this fits, too.
HOpefully the nice Jupiter-trines can help them through that, though I think by the time the Mars-Saturn, and Mrs-Pluto square start, these trines have passed. And before the Saturn-squares, they will undergo pr Sun and pr Venus squaring pr Neptune, have not checked when exactly and the transits for that time, but honestly even with that beautiful Sun-Venus-conjunction there, I wouldn`t want to have such a progressed composite with my significant other, especially since it is so extreme. Like having extremely beautiful stuff happening and then like falling from grace or something.
"Maybe just more of those incidents where the doorway is narrow and you have to slide against each other to pass. Cuz it seems really narrow. What other choice do you have?
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What do you mean by that? NOt quite sure I understand you.
If you refer to it only be 2 years, well that is actually the normal speed and duration for Venus-progressions. You and my best friend and P all have extremely slow Venus in your progressed composites, but having such long Venus progressions is not the norm.
But of course it is interesting.
"So pr comp Mars will be chart ruler and trine Venus, hmm. Is pr comp Mars in Scorpio...will it square tr Saturn?
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Yes, the transiting Saturn-Uranus-square will tie into this.
Well actually the thing is a bit more complex, as pr Mars is right now on 11 Scorpio moving to conjunct n composite Uranus on 12 Scorpio and after that pr composite Uranus on 13 Scorpio, while pr composite Sun is on 10 Aquarius right now and just starting the square to pr composite Mars, while also being trine natal composite Jupiter on 10 GEmini and a few year later trine pr composite Jupiter on 14 or 15 Gemini.
And pr composite Venus on 10 Pisces at the moment, so this is all building up, and the transiting Saturn-Uranus connecting to that.
At some point our pr composite Moon will be going over 11 Virgo, too, and tying into this. Well if I have more time I will check for more closer timeframes, but it definitely seems interesting, I did not say, easy or nice or even harmonious, but certainly somethings "in the air", and with Uranus you never know. lol (it is also conjunct his name in our composite on 11 Scorpio, so whatever it is it might have mostly to do with his actions or whatever. Well my name in our composite is on 11 Aries I think or was it 12 Aries? itis an inconjunct so I might have to adapt to whatever he is cooking up in his mind and actions, and just ask yourself how lenient and cooperative an Aries - personality is into adapting to actions not coming from herself? This should be fun. LOL
Not to mention that our pr composite Venus on 11 Pisces will be exact conjunct my natal Jupiter (and my name in his chart is on 9 Pisces), pr composite Moon at some point will be going over his natal Mars on 11 Virgo and Jupiter and his name on 10 Virgo.
I just find it interesting that while in the other pr composite Mars will be opposing his natal Venus; in our pr composite (but I think this will happen a bit earlier in time) pr Venus will be opposing his Mars (and there won`t be a Saturn-square attached to that pr Venus, but actualy a Mars-Uranus-trine).
I promise I am going to be good and protecting my moral integrity.
lol
Nah all joking aside, I like that there is atrine to of Mars-Uranus to Venus. I think I can live with a Sun-Uranus-squre (it also reminds me of my own progressions when we first met), and Sun is in Aqua anyway, and Sun and Uranus are rulers of the chart, it might be easier to navigate, well not easy, but not affecting either too emotionally, more bringing the need for change I guess. okay, a bit disruptive, maybe very disruptive, with Tr Uranus squaring that Sun and opposing htat Mars-Uranus, but well it also will sextile the Venus portion and trine the pr Moon, there seems to be a weird balance there.
But Tr Saturn on the Sun and square Mars is there as well, so just wondering who is going to play which part? lol
It is all just theory though, but I just find it funny to see astrological patterns emerge, even if they will not express themselves. Well they will in some way, but we have to take into account the circumstances we are living in, well maybe there will be some new exciting project I can get enthusiastic about . lol
"It just strikes with abandon, I mean Chiron is slow but draco Chiron moves pretty fast."
Is that becuase the transiting nodes are moving more quickly than transiting Draco itself?
"Well today Chiron is conjunct Mars on comp moon with my ex, opp comp Pluto. Here I was digging for meaning again."
Yes, sometimes that is how Chiron works, digging out.
Which reminds me P`s Pluto is opposing my Chiron, and while that is usually a bit semi-generational, in this case it falls right onto our ocmposite nodal axis, with his Pluto on the NN, my Chiron on the SN. My Chiron is in my 4th house, so I just want to cave in and nurture my isolation, and he is sort of pulling on the string, and well the comosite NN is in my 10th house of course.
For him my Chiron is falling into his intercepte Aries 1st house and his Pluto in his 7th house, so composite NN in his 7th house. don`t know how he experiences that, but at least from my perspective I can relate to that, at least in terms of the past years.
Thoug hby now I am very much back in my 4th house Chiron cave. lol